Peter Kaufman, who's here today, he likes the idea that you want to know how the world looks from the top looking down and you want to know what it looks like from the bottom looking up.
彼得-考夫曼(Peter Kaufman),今天也在這裡,他喜歡這樣的觀點:你想知道從上往下看世界是什麼樣子,你也想知道從下往上看世界是什麼樣子。