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I know.

我知道

We are so great to see you.

我們很高興見到你。

You look fantastic. Thanks for coming back.

你看起來棒極了。謝謝你回來。

Thank you so much. That was really nice, guys.

非常感謝你們真是太好了

I mean, there was...

我的意思是，有...

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There's such a buzz around the whole block in New York City, just the fact that you're here. We're so excited.

你來了，紐約整個街區都沸騰了。我們太激動了

Well, yeah, we got to talk about midnight.

好吧，是的，我們得談談午夜。

Congrats on this.

祝賀你。

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I just want to break down a couple of things.

我只想說幾件事。

In just one day of sales, it became the top-selling album of the year already.

在短短一天的銷售中，它就成為了今年最暢銷的專輯。

Yeah, in just one day of sales of the whole year.

是啊，全年只有一天的銷售額。

Midnight broke Spotify's record for most streams in a day.

午夜》打破了 Spotify 的單日最高流媒體記錄。

Today, the top 10 songs on Apple Music and Spotify are from Midnight's.

今天，Apple Music 和 Spotify 上排名前十的歌曲都來自《午夜之聲》。

You can plug your ears, because I'm just going to keep going.

你可以堵上耳朵，因為我會一直說下去。

No, I like it too much.

不，我太喜歡了。

Rolling Stone called Midnight's an instant classic, and their five-star review!

滾石》（Rolling Stone）稱《午夜》是一部經典之作，並給出了五星級評價！

Rolling Stone!

滾石

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And right now, this album...

而現在，這張專輯...

I know.

我知道

This album is on track to sell well over 1 million copies in its first week.

這張專輯的首周銷量有望超過 100 萬張。

That is history, buddy. Congratulations.

這就是歷史，夥計。祝賀你

That's unbelievable.

真是難以置信。

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I'm... Yeah.

我...是啊，是啊

How are you feeling? Is it a lot?

您感覺如何？很難受嗎？

Is it exciting? Are you freaking?

興奮嗎？你抓狂了嗎？

I'm beside myself, really.

我都快瘋了，真的。

Yeah, it's actually...

是的，實際上...

It's a concept record, but it's my first directly autobiographical album in a while, because the last album that I put out was a rerecord of my album, Red.

這是一張概念唱片，也是我近來第一張直接以自傳體形式發行的專輯，因為我上一張專輯是我的專輯《紅色》的重新錄製。

So that has some space.

這樣就有了一些空間。

You know, I wrote that stuff a decade ago.

要知道，那是我十年前寫的東西。

Folklore and Evermore, it was like story time.

民間傳說》和《永恆》，就像是故事時間。

It was like mythology.

這就像是神話。

Like, I'm creating a character.

比如，我在創造一個角色。

They went and did this and felt this way.

他們去做了這些，並有這種感覺。

So I'm feeling like I'm feeling very overwhelmed by the fans' love for the record.

所以我覺得歌迷對這張唱片的喜愛讓我不知所措。

I'm also feeling, like, very soft and fragile.

我還覺得，自己很軟弱，很脆弱。

So it's... The two can exist at once, but the fact that the fans have done this, like, the breaking of the records and the going out to the snores and getting it, it's like, you know, I'm 32, so we're considered geriatric pop stars.

所以...這兩者可以同時存在 但事實上歌迷們已經做到了 比如打破紀錄 去打呼嚕並得到它 就好像 我32歲了 所以我們被認為是老年流行歌星

No, I don't think so.

不，我不這麼認為。

They start trying to put us out to pasture at age 25.

他們在我們 25 歲時就開始想方設法把我們趕出牧場。

I'm just happy to be here.

我很高興能來到這裡。

Oh, no, no, no.

哦，不，不，不

That's so funny.

太有趣了

Oh, you're just getting started, buddy.

哦，你才剛剛開始呢，夥計。

You're just getting started.

你才剛剛開始

You said a lot of this album is made out of 13 stories, 13 sleepless nights throughout your life.

你說過這張專輯的很多內容都是由 13 個故事組成的，13 個不眠之夜貫穿了你的一生。

Yeah.

是啊

Is it tough?

艱難嗎？

I mean, I don't know how you do it.

我的意思是，我不知道你是怎麼做到的。

Do you just get up and go, in the middle of your sleep?

你會在睡夢中起身離開嗎？

You know, record something on your phone or jot something down, like, this is something.

你知道，用手機錄下一些東西，或者記下一些東西，比如，這是一些東西。

I don't even know if it's good. I'm blurting it out.

我都不知道它好不好。我脫口而出

Or do you go like, oh, this has got a good hook?

還是說，哦，這個鉤子不錯？

I kind of do all of that.

這些我都會做。

Yeah, at once.

是的，馬上

I love writing songs, poems, stories, scripts.

我喜歡寫歌、寫詩、寫故事、寫劇本。

I love writing those things because there's a part of it that I don't quite understand how it comes to fruition.

我喜歡寫這些東西，因為有一部分我不太明白它是如何實現的。

There's something so mysterious about writing.

寫作是如此神祕。

But I've found that the more I write, the more I keep writing.

但我發現，我寫得越多，就越能堅持寫下去。

I don't know what's been going on, but in the last six or seven years,

我不知道發生了什麼，但在過去的六七年裡、

I've just been constantly making things.

我一直在不停地製作東西。

And the more things I make, the happier I am.

我做的東西越多，我就越開心。

So I've just continued to do it.

所以，我就一直這樣做。

I'm just happy you guys like that.

我很高興你們喜歡這樣。

No, we love it.

不，我們喜歡它。

So, yeah, some of them, sometimes it feels completely involuntary.

所以，是的，有些人有時感覺完全是不由自主的。

Sometimes, like, your day is completely interrupted by a hook or a lyric or just a thing on piano

有時，你的一天會被鋼琴上的一個旋律、一句歌詞或一件事完全打斷。

Sometimes you don't know what the place for it is going to be, but I just am always reaching for my phone and recording things.

有時候，你不知道該把它放在什麼地方，但我總是拿起手機，記錄下一切。

And do you know, like, do you know

你知道嗎？

Mastermind is going to be the 13th track?

主腦》將成為第 13 首曲目？

Yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊。

Wow. That's meta.

Wow.太玄了

That's meta right there.

這就是 "元"。

That is so Mastermind.

這真是高手過招。

I think over the years, my fans and I, we kind of have a really funny sort of, like, they tease me a lot, and I enjoy it.

我覺得這些年來，我和我的粉絲們有一種非常有趣的關係，就像他們經常戲弄我，而我也樂在其中。

You do, yeah.

是的

And one of the things they like to make fun of me for is the kind of cryptic needing to plan things out.

他們喜歡取笑我的一件事就是，我總是需要把事情計劃好。

And, like, I think we've just stopped pretending it's accidental at this point.

而且，我覺得我們已經不再假裝這是意外了。

That was fun. That was part of it.

這很有趣。這是其中的一部分。

It's almost like to write, like, five albums just for one album, because you're like, no, this has to mean this and this has...

這幾乎就像是為了一張專輯而寫五張專輯一樣，因為你會想，不，這必須意味著這個，這個必須...

The way you listed just the names of the tracks was so exciting.

你只列出軌道名稱的方式太令人興奮了。

We were freaking out.

我們都嚇壞了。

Thank you for saying that that was exciting.

謝謝你這麼說，我很激動。

I loved it. I was hoping people were, like...

我很喜歡我希望人們...

I loved it.

我很喜歡。

It was so fun with the bingo balls going around.

玩賓果球的過程非常有趣。

Yeah, I posted videos on TikTok of me with a vintage bingo cage, like, with a handle.

是的，我在 TikTok 上發佈了一些視頻，視頻中我拿著一個復古的賓果籠子，就像帶把手的一樣。

And I just announced track, you know, one at a time.

我就這樣宣佈了跟蹤，你知道，一次一個。

And people, including me, I go, oh, I think that'll be my favorite song.

包括我在內的人們都會說，哦，我想這將是我最喜歡的一首歌。

It's so... Without even hearing the song.

真是......甚至都沒聽過這首歌

It's so cool to hear you say that, because that was just me, you know,

能聽到你這麼說真是太棒了，因為那只是我的想法、

I don't know, with my phone in a bingo cage.

我不知道，我的手機在一個賓果籠子裡。

On this one, you collaborate with some very fun people.

在這個項目中，你與一些非常有趣的人合作。

I saw Zoe Kravitz is listed. We love her.

我看到佐伊-克拉維茨在名單上。我們愛她。

Yes. Lana Del Rey.

是的拉娜-德爾-雷

Yes. Amazing.

是的。太神奇了

And then I saw on drums, is it Dylan O'Brien?

然後我看到了鼓手，是迪倫-奧布萊恩嗎？

Dylan O'Brien.

迪倫-奧布萊恩

I'm sorry. How... Is he a drummer, even?

對不起怎麼...他是鼓手嗎？

He is. And, you know, not a lot of people know that.

他確實是要知道，知道這一點的人並不多。

I did not know that. And now they do.

我以前不知道。現在他們知道了。

But I liked... I really...

但我喜歡我真的...

I love to make things with my friends.

我喜歡和朋友們一起做東西。

I love to work with my friends.

我喜歡和朋友們一起工作。

I think that the experience of making something is just as important as how proud you are of it in the end.

我認為，製作過程中的體驗與最終的自豪感同樣重要。

And I think it really informs how proud I am of something if I had a really joyful experience making something.

我認為，如果我在製作過程中獲得了非常愉快的體驗，我就會為自己的作品感到自豪。

This is a pretty dark album, but I'd say I had more fun making it than any album I've ever made.

這是一張相當黑暗的專輯，但我想說，我在製作這張專輯時比以往任何一張專輯都要開心。

Isn't that interesting?

這難道不有趣嗎？

Because I don't think that art and suffering have to be holding hands all the time.

因為我不認為藝術和苦難必須一直牽手。

I think you can write songs about pain or grief or suffering or loss or hard things that you go through in life.

我認為你可以寫一些關於痛苦、悲傷、磨難、失落或生活中經歷的艱難事情的歌曲。

Shame. You know, love to write about that one.

慚愧。你知道，我喜歡寫這個。

Self-loathing. I could go on.

自我厭惡。我可以繼續說下去。

But I think there's...

但我認為...

I think, you know, with time and with the more albums

我認為，隨著時間的推移和專輯的增多

I've put out, making albums and making things and writing things feels like a way to sort of, like, suck the poison out of a snake bite.

我發行過專輯，製作過作品，寫過東西，感覺就像是一種方式，就像是，把毒蛇咬傷的毒吸出來。

You're just, like, you're getting it in the music.

你會在音樂中感受到這一點。

You're putting it in a song.

你把它寫進了一首歌裡。

And it could be the most harrowing song you have ever heard, but we had a blast making it.

這可能是你聽過的最痛苦的歌曲，但我們在製作過程中非常開心。

Good.

很好。

And with Snow on the Beach, which features the genius Lana Del Rey...

由天才歌手拉娜-德爾-雷（Lana Del Rey）主演的《海灘上的白雪》（Snow on the Beach），將在今年夏天與您見面。

Yes.

是的。

Yeah, you should...

是的，你應該...

No, I...

不，我...

And so, very lucky to have collaborated with her on that.

是以，非常幸運能與她合作。

And Dylan was actually in the studio with me and Jack because a lot of the time we record at his place.

迪倫和我還有傑克一起在錄音室，因為很多時候我們都在他家錄音。

And Dylan was just hanging out, like, drinking wine with us and listening to stuff.

迪倫就在外面閒逛，和我們一起喝紅酒，聽音樂。

And he was just trying out the drum kit there.

他只是在那裡試試鼓。

He wasn't serious.

他不是認真的。

Yeah.

是啊

But we were...

但我們...

That's how it happens.

事情就是這樣發生的。

As I said, we were drinking wine, and so we were just sort of like, oh, we haven't, like, recorded the drums for this one yet.

就像我說的，我們當時喝了酒，所以我們就想，哦，我們還沒錄這首歌的鼓聲呢。

See if you want to.

看看你是否願意。

And he just played the drums on the song.

他只是在這首歌裡打鼓。

Is that right?

是這樣嗎？

Yeah, sometimes it just happens like that.

是啊，有時候就是這樣

But did you know him before the film all too well?

但是，在影片上映之前，您是否對他非常瞭解？

So, no, I didn't.

所以，不，我沒有。

I reached out to him to be in the short film for All Too Well because I had always really loved his work.

因為我一直非常喜歡他的作品，所以我主動邀請他出演《All Too Well》的短片。

I also felt like he seemed like a very quick-witted person, and I knew that this...

我還覺得他似乎是個思維敏捷的人，我知道這...

He's funny.

他很有趣。

I wanted the character to be charming.

我希望這個角色充滿魅力。

I wanted that sort of charming, quick cleverness to...

我希望這種迷人、敏捷的聰明才智能夠...

And the charisma to be why we love the character because there's a lot of complexity to that character that makes us not love him as much.

我們之所以喜歡這個角色，是因為他身上有很多複雜的東西，讓我們不那麼喜歡他。

So I wanted Dylan to bring something...

所以我想讓迪倫帶來一些...

His layers, yeah.

他的層次，是的。

...to the character to make us, you know, love him, and I do think that was achieved in the short film.

......讓我們愛上這個角色，我認為短片做到了這一點。

Meanwhile, I mean, Dylan and I become really close friends.

同時，我是說，迪倫和我成為了非常要好的朋友。

Jack becomes really close friends with Dylan.

傑克和迪倫成為了真正的好朋友。

We all start hanging out all the time.

我們開始經常在一起玩。

Like, it's the same with Sadie Sink, who was in it.

就像塞迪-辛克（Sadie Sink）一樣，她也參演了這部電影。

Like, we're just...

就像，我們只是...

I've been very lucky to work with really nice, really talented people, and that's not something I ever take for granted, and a lot of the time, we end up really good friends.

我一直很幸運，能與非常好、非常有才華的人共事，這不是理所當然的事情，而且很多時候，我們最終會成為非常好的朋友。

But is it because, I mean, you've done the albums, you've done the re-recordings, but also, you haven't toured in, like, four years.

但是不是因為，我的意思是，你們出了專輯，重新錄製了唱片，但也有四年沒有巡演了。

I know.

我知道

I know.

我知道

We want you to.

我們希望您

I think I should do it.

我想我應該這麼做。

Yeah!

是啊

Yeah!

是啊

Yeah!

是啊

Yeah!

是啊

Yeah!

是啊

Yeah!

是啊

Yeah!

是啊

Are we talking sooner than later?

我們說的是 "早 "還是 "晚"？

Um...

嗯...

No, I mean, you know, I should do it.

不，我是說，你知道，我應該這麼做。

Yeah.

是啊

Yeah.

是啊

When it's time, you'll let us know.

到時候，你會告訴我們的。

When it's time, we'll do it.

時機一到，我們就動手。

All right.

好的

I miss it. I really miss it.

我想念它。我真的很想念它。

I miss, you know, when you write songs, and you're proud of the songs, and you have the fans reacting.

我懷念寫歌的日子，你知道，你為自己的歌感到驕傲，歌迷們也會對你的歌做出反應。

Yeah.

是啊

The most potent way that you can see them react is when you're looking into their faces.

你能看到他們反應的最有力的方式，就是當你看著他們的臉時。

Do you know what I mean? I miss that a lot.

你明白我的意思嗎？我非常懷念那段時光。

I really miss that connection.

我真的很懷念這種聯繫。

They're looking at you right now.

他們正在看著你。

I know.

我知道

Yeah.

是啊

So it's like...

所以這就像...

I'm thinking something like, it's like this, but with singing.

我的想法是，就像這樣，但要唱歌。

Yeah, okay, good.

好的，很好

By the way, I saw you receive a doctorate from NYU, and you had a very great speech.

順便說一下，我看到你獲得了紐約大學的博士學位，你的演講非常精彩。

You're a doctor.

你是個醫生

Dr. Taylor Swift.

泰勒-斯威夫特博士

Sorry, I should have announced you earlier as doctor.

對不起，我應該早點宣佈你是醫生。

No, it's fine.

不，沒關係。

I'm sorry, I'm just getting used to it.

對不起，我剛剛習慣。

And you said, you made a funny joke.

你說，你開了一個有趣的玩笑。

You were like, I'm a doctor, but I'm not the doctor you need in case of an emergency.

你說，我是個醫生，但我不是你在緊急情況下需要的醫生。

Do not call me.

不要給我打電話。

But you call me if you need me to name breeds of cats.

但如果你需要我說出貓的品種，請給我打電話。

Yep.

是的。

I could be a doctor at that.

我可以成為一名醫生。

And you said, like, I could name,

你說，我可以說出名字、

I don't know, 50 breeds of cats or something like that.

我不知道，50 種貓什麼的。

Yeah, that was me committing an act of extreme hyperbole.

是的，那是我在極度誇張。

Yeah.

是啊

With the 50 cats.

和 50 只貓一起

I think I was like, I can name 50 cats in five seconds.

我當時想，我能在五秒鐘內說出 50 只貓的名字。

I was trying to make a joke.

我只是想開個玩笑。

I don't think I can actually do that.

我想我真的做不到。

Well, we were actually thinking, can you name, see how many cats you can name in 30 seconds?

實際上，我們在想，你能不能在 30 秒內說出幾隻貓的名字？

And just do it?

就這樣做？

I mean, we have the time, right?

我是說，我們有時間，對吧？

We have the clock.

我們有時鐘。

Yeah, let's see.

是啊，讓我想想

Yeah, let's do it.

好，就這麼辦

Let's see how many cat breeds you can name in 30 seconds.

讓我們看看您能在 30 秒內說出多少種貓。

Taylor Swift.

泰勒-斯威夫特

No, don't start it now.

不，現在不要開始。

You have to say go.

你必須說走。

Sorry, I'm sorry.

對不起

This is really serious.

這真的很嚴重。

Yeah, it really was.

是的，真的是這樣。

Okay.

好的

You have to say, when you say go.

你必須說，當你說走的時候。

When I say go, you already have your first one?

我說走的時候，你已經有了第一個？

Yeah.

是啊

On your mark, get set, go.