Take a look.

看一看

Our next guest has had the number one album on the country charts for a record 10 weeks in a row.

我們的下一位嘉賓曾創紀錄地連續 10 周在鄉村音樂排行榜上獲得第一名。

Please welcome Taylor Swift.

請歡迎泰勒-斯威夫特

That's what people say.

人們都這麼說。

That's what people say.

人們都這麼說。

For one too many years.

太多年了

Your musical crush, somebody in the business.

你的音樂偶像，業內人士

Oh, Justin Timberlake.

哦，賈斯汀-汀布萊克。

Justin Timberlake is your favorite?

你最喜歡賈斯汀-汀布萊克嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

Justin!

賈斯汀

Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做、做。

That's the best surprise ever.

這才是最棒的驚喜。

This is the best day ever.

這是有史以來最美好的一天。

Yeah.

是啊

That's great.

好極了

Finish the statement.

完成陳述。

I am Taylor blank.

我是泰勒空白。

I think just like birth certificate wise, it's Swift.

我認為，就像出生證明一樣，這是斯威夫特。

But I am Ellen blank.

但我是艾倫的空白。

I am Ellen DeGeneres.

我是艾倫-德傑尼勒斯。

I am Ellen DeGeneres, and I am married to Portia de Rossi.

我是艾倫-德傑尼勒斯（Ellen DeGeneres），我的妻子是波西亞-德羅西（Portia de Rossi）。

I am Taylor Swift.

我是泰勒-斯威夫特

I am dating blank.

我在和空白約會。

Nobody.

沒人

That's true, though.

這倒是真的。

I am Taylor Swift, and my publicist told me to say blank.

我是泰勒-斯威夫特，我的公關讓我說空白。

My publicist told me not to answer any personal questions.

我的公關告訴我不要回答任何私人問題。

Now we're getting somewhere.

現在我們有進展了。

Kitty Corner is a show for people who love cats.

Kitty Corner 是為愛貓人士準備的節目。

And we'll answer your questions.

我們會回答你的問題。

About cats.

關於貓

Yeah.

是啊

You can call us with your questions.

如有問題，請致電我們。

And we can call in cat calls.

我們還可以呼叫貓叫。

Or look with the cat call, then.

那就用貓叫聲看看吧。

Every single time I come on this show, it's really weird, really weird.

每次我上這個節目，都覺得很奇怪，很奇怪。

All because of Ellen.

都是因為艾倫。

I've been on this show eight times now.

我已經上過這個節目八次了。

And I still remember Ellen hiding in the bathroom with a hidden camera.

我還記得艾倫帶著隱藏攝影機躲在浴室裡。

And she scared me so bad.

她把我嚇壞了

She scared me as I could have died.

她把我嚇壞了，因為我可能會死。

You've got that dream, dream, dream, dream.

你有夢想，夢想，夢想，夢想。

Look in your eye, and I got the best.

看著你的眼睛，我得到了最好的。

Taylor!

泰勒

Taylor!

泰勒

My hair is so bad.

我的頭髮太糟糕了。

Why are you doing that?

你為什麼要這麼做？

Up in the air.

在空中

Being on Ellen's show is one of the best.

參加艾倫的節目是最棒的節目之一。

Monotone like that.

就像那樣單調。

Being on the Ellen show is one of the best experiences you can have.

參加艾倫秀是最好的經歷之一。

Now laugh in a monotone way.

現在用單調的方式笑。

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

哈，哈，哈，哈，哈，哈。

That was an amazing montage.

這個蒙太奇真是太神奇了

I know.

我知道

And that's, that's, no, no one's in there.

那是，那是，不，沒有人在裡面。

OK.

好的。

We're not going to do it to you today.

我們今天不會這樣對你。

And it's not amateur hour.

而且這不是業餘時間。

No, no.

不，不

I'm not going to, because I can't top how

我不會這麼做，因為我無法超越

I did it the first time.

我第一次就是這樣做的。

You were the best scarer.

你是最好的嚇唬人的人

Well, I don't know, Sarah Paulson was pretty good, too.

好吧，我不知道，莎拉-保爾森也很不錯。

But.

但是

That was a near-death experience.

那是一次瀕臨死亡的經歷。

It kind of was.

有點像。

You went down.

你倒下了

Yeah.

是啊

Were there injuries?

有人受傷嗎？

There were several ways I could have died.

我有幾種死法。

Well, now you're being dramatic.

好吧，現在你是在誇大其詞。

Yeah.

是啊

Yeah.

是啊

No, that's extreme.

不，這太極端了。

Yeah.

是啊

No, but.

沒有，但是

It's, it, it, I really just was watching that backstage.

我真的是在後臺看到的。

And I was just thinking like, thank you so much for going so above and beyond to make people happy.

我當時就在想，非常感謝你們如此不遺餘力地讓人們開心。

And, yeah.

是啊

Well.

好吧。

That's not a good example of me.

這不是我的好榜樣。

No, no.

不，不

But.

但是

No, you could have hit your head on the toilet bowl.

不，你可能把頭撞到馬桶上了。

It was funny afterward.

事後覺得很好笑。

Did this laugh afterward that I have found myself,

之後，我發現自己笑了、

I loved the sound so much that I found myself doing it sometimes when I laugh hard enough?

我太喜歡這種聲音了，以至於我發現自己有時笑得很開心時也會發出這種聲音。

You went.

你去了

Ah, ah, ah, ah.

啊，啊，啊，啊。

You went.

你去了

Ah, ah, ah, ah.

啊，啊，啊，啊。

Like, and you couldn't breathe.

比如，你無法呼吸。

Uh-huh.

嗯哼

That's how happy I was.

我就是這麼高興。

That's how happy you were to see me fall down like that.

看到我摔成那樣，你是多麼高興啊。

Yes, yes.

是的，是的。

And now you do it, too, you said.

現在你也這樣做了，你說。

It's, it's caught on.

它已經流行起來了。

Yeah.

是啊

It's a great sound.

這是一種很棒的聲音。

If you, if you go back and watch it on YouTube, listen for her laugh.

如果你回到 YouTube 上觀看，聽聽她的笑聲。

I'm.

我是

And then who will be the one that's embarrassed?

到那時，誰會感到尷尬？

The one on the ground.

地上那個

Keep in mind that we, you haven't been here in four, no.

請記住，我們，你還沒有 在這裡四，沒有。

How long has it been?

有多久了？

Yeah, four years.

對，四年

I was recovering from the fall.

我當時正從摔倒中恢復過來。

No, no, no.

不，不，不

But look at all the content we had, and you haven't been here in four years.

但看看我們的內容，你已經四年沒來這裡了。

You'd think you'd want to come back because you had so much fun.

你會覺得你會想回來，因為你玩得太開心了。

I know, and now I have.

我知道，現在我已經知道了。

OK.

好的。

And now you've come back.

現在你回來了

Yeah, I have come back.

是的，我回來了。

Yes.

是的。

I mean, I had an album out called Reputation.

我的意思是，我有一張名為《聲譽》的專輯。

I know.

我知道

And I really.

我真的

Oh.

哦。

Oh.

哦。

You guys are friendly.

你們很友好。

Yeah, with the album, I just basically wanted to just make music and not explain it.

是的，對於這張專輯，我基本上只想做音樂，不想做任何解釋。

Yeah.

是啊

But I missed you so much.

但我非常想念你。

It worked out.

它成功了。

It was really.

真的是這樣。

You still sold a bunch of albums without even talking.

你甚至都沒開口說話，就賣出了很多專輯。

I mean, usually people go to promote their music because it helps sell albums.

我的意思是，通常人們會去宣傳自己的音樂，因為這有助於專輯的銷售。

You don't have to do that.

你不必這麼做。

Well, that's nice of you to say.

你說得真好。

It's true.

這是真的。

I mean, I am having fun being back here.

我是說，回到這裡我很開心。

It's been really great to be back here.

回到這裡真的很棒。

And I definitely do, I think as a songwriter,

作為一名詞曲作者，我肯定會這麼做、

I enjoy communicating about what I've made.

我喜歡交流我的作品。

I really do like that part of the process.

我真的很喜歡這部分過程。

But I also just feel like with my career,

但我也覺得，我的職業生涯也是如此、

I want to do what feels right at the time.

我想做當時感覺正確的事。

Yeah.

是啊

You know?

你知道嗎？

So at that time, I coined this phrase, there will be no explanation.

是以，當時我創造了這樣一句話：沒有解釋。

There will just be reputation.

有的只是聲譽。

Because I am dramatic.

因為我很戲劇化。

Yes.

是的。

That's a very dramatic thing.

這是一件非常戲劇性的事情。

But it rhymed.

但它是押韻的。

It was kind of catchy.

有點朗朗上口。

Yeah.

是啊

And so I stuck with it.

於是我堅持了下來。

Right.

對

Is that in one of your songs?

這是你的一首歌裡的歌詞嗎？

Because if it isn't, it should be.

因為如果沒有，就應該有。

Thank you.

謝謝。

No.

不

And I think it's a little late for that because now we're on to another different album.

我覺得現在說這個有點晚了，因為現在我們又在製作另一張不同的專輯。

I know.

我知道

But you still could have that.

但你仍然可以擁有它。

For an album that's not reputation?

為了一張沒有聲譽的專輯？

Yeah.

是啊

It's a little off brand.

它有點偏離品牌。

No, no.

不，不

But I will think about it.

但我會考慮的。

No.

不

Just like clothing comes back in style, you can come right back around to that topic again if you'd like.

就像服裝會重新流行起來一樣，如果你願意，也可以再次回到這個話題上來。

It could be like a vintage.

它可能就像一個古董。

You can do anything you want, Taylor Swift.

你可以做任何你想做的事，泰勒-斯威夫特。

Thank you for saying that.

謝謝你這麼說。

Thank you.

謝謝。

You know, people thought, oh, god, she's been away for so long.

你知道，人們會想，天哪，她離開了這麼久。

How is this album going to do?

這張專輯效果如何？

And they put so much, I don't think, pressure on you.

他們給了你太多壓力，我不這麼認為。

Because I don't think you felt.

因為我覺得你沒感覺到

Yeah, there's pressure.

是的，有壓力。

Really?

真的嗎？

Yeah, for sure.

是的，當然。

Oh, OK.

哦，好的

But because it seemed like people were expecting this not to be as good, or that album not to be as, and you just came back and proved them all wrong.

但因為人們似乎期待這張專輯沒那麼好，或者那張專輯沒那麼好，而你回來了，證明他們都錯了。

You know, it's true.

你知道，這是真的。

Because you didn't worry about how certain people do things.

因為你不擔心某些人如何做事。

You do things your own way, and it all works out for you.

你按自己的方式做事，一切都會對你有利。

Thank you so much.

非常感謝。

Well, you're welcome.

不客氣

Now, let's talk about me.

現在，讓我們來談談我。

No, not talk about me.

不，不是談論我。

But so these, here, let's talk about, you're on the cover of Entertainment Weekly, and you have all these Easter eggs on here, right?

我們來談談這些吧 你登上了《娛樂週刊》的封面 你在上面畫了這麼多復活節彩蛋，對吧？

Yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊。

And I feel like.

我覺得

Explain what the eggs are to people who don't understand.

向不懂的人解釋雞蛋是什麼。

Yeah, because I think that is necessary.

是的，因為我認為這是必要的。

So it's like, when we say Easter eggs, we're not only talking about Easter eggs that you would go on an Easter egg hunt for on Easter.

是以，當我們說復活節彩蛋時，我們所說的復活節彩蛋並不僅僅是復活節時你會去尋找的復活節彩蛋。

It's kind of like a clue, like a foreshadowing kind of thing.

這有點像一條線索，像是一種預示。

I like to plant Easter eggs in a video that will be a lyric from unreleased music, or a little hint, or a little link to what's coming in the future.

我喜歡在視頻中植入 "復活節彩蛋"，這些彩蛋會是未發佈音樂中的一句歌詞，或者是一個小提示，或者是未來內容的一個小鏈接。

So yeah, that was kind of the theme of what we did the Entertainment Weekly thing on.

是的，這就是我們做《娛樂週刊》的主題。

And it's just been really fun to kind of expand the musical experience past just listening to a song.

除了聽歌之外，還能拓展音樂體驗，這真的很有趣。

I also want people to be watching the music video, and what's that thing in the background, and what's that song playing underneath there, and is there a reason she said that in French?

我還希望人們在觀看音樂錄影帶時，能注意到背景是什麼，下面播放的是什麼歌，她用法語說這些話有什麼原因嗎？

Right, because people, and usually your fans are pretty good at figuring it out, right?

是的，因為人們，通常是你的粉絲們很善於發現問題，對嗎？

They're excellent at figuring it out.

他們非常善於發現問題。

How far off have they been?

他們差得有多遠？

What's the worst they've been?

最糟糕的情況是什麼？

Oh, man.

天啊

Well, there were some fans that thought

有些粉絲認為

I had something to do with Avengers Endgame.

我和《復仇者聯盟終結者》有關。

Oh, really?

哦，真的嗎？

Which I would have loved to have been asked, but I wasn't.

我很希望有人問我這個問題，但我沒有。

No, you weren't.

不，你沒有。

Asked to be in it at all.

要求參與其中。

Yeah.

是啊

Because we had the single coming out the same day, and I have a song that was called Endgame.

因為我們在同一天推出了單曲，而我有一首歌叫《Endgame》。

And so they were like, oh my god, she's going to defeat Thanos.

於是他們就想，天哪，她要打敗撒諾斯了。

I let everyone down again.

我又讓大家失望了。

Well, that was confusing.

嗯，真讓人困惑。

On your jacket, you have a lot of things on here, but you don't have something that next time you wear a jacket, that's.

在你的夾克上，你有很多東西在這裡，但你沒有的東西，下次你穿的夾克，這是。

Thank you.

謝謝。

You're welcome.

不客氣。

It's you as a kitty cat.

你是一隻小貓咪。

And that's two things you love.

這是你喜歡的兩樣東西。

Those are the two things I love the most.

這是我最喜歡的兩件事。

Together, put together.

在一起，放在一起。

Yeah.

是啊

All right, we have to take a break.

好了，我們得休息一下。

I'll let you cry about that.

我會讓你為此哭泣。

We'll be back.

我們會回來的

We're back with Taylor Swift, who was just telling me about washing her legs in the shower.

我們又回到了泰勒-斯威夫特（Taylor Swift）的節目，她剛剛告訴我她在洗澡時洗腿的事。

I couldn't hear you.

我聽不見

Did you say you do wash them, or you don't?

你是說洗還是不洗？

I do, because when you shave your legs, isn't the shaving cream is like soap, right?

我是這麼想的，因為當你刮腿毛時，剃鬚膏不就像肥皂嗎？

It is.

就是這樣。

I think that's a reason that most women wash their legs, because we have to, because we shave our legs.

我想這也是大多數女性洗腿的原因，因為我們必須洗，因為我們要刮腿毛。

Yeah.

是啊

Yeah.

是啊

So that counts.

所以這也算。

For sure.

當然。

I'm on the right side of history, then.

那我就站在了歷史的正確一邊。

Unless you're not shaving, and then you're not washing.

除非你不刮鬍子，也不洗臉。

So whenever you're not shaving, you don't wash, you're saying?

你是說只要不刮鬍子，就不洗臉？

No, I don't think I would say that.

不，我想我不會這麼說。

It seems like you did just say it.

你剛才好像說了。

But I kind of always shave my legs.

但我總是刮腿毛。

Every day?

每天？

I mean, yeah.

我的意思是，是的。

Every day?

每天？

Yeah.

是啊

God, you must be hairy.

天啊，你一定長滿了毛。

All right, so let's talk about.

好吧，我們來談談。

So sweet.

真貼心

I don't know why you don't come here more often.

我不知道你為什麼不常來這裡。

All right, let's talk about me.

好吧，我們來談談我。

We were just playing it during the commercial break, which I love that song.