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  • It is about 9.30 p.m. here on the East Coast.

    現在是東海岸的晚上 9 時 30 分左右。

  • This occurred around 6.15 p.m. in Butler, Pennsylvania.

    事件發生在下午 6 時 15 分左右,地點是賓夕法尼亞州的巴特勒。

  • If you're just joining us, I'm going to be playing what the former president, how this began, the former president making remarks shortly into the beginning of this campaign appearance.

    如果你剛剛加入我們,我將播放前總統的講話,這是如何開始的,前總統在這次競選亮相之初不久發表了講話。

  • Let's watch.

    讓我們來看看

  • No, that's a little bit old, that chart.

    不,那張圖表有點老了。

  • That chart's a couple of months old.

    那張圖表是幾個月前的。

  • If you want to really see something that's said, take a look at what happened.

    如果你想真正瞭解所說的話,那就看看發生了什麼。

  • Hold, hold.

    等等,等等

  • When you're ready, on you.

    準備好了,就交給你了。

  • Ready.

    準備就緒。

  • Move.

    移動。

  • Move.

    移動。

  • Go.

    走吧

  • Hawkeye's here.

    鷹眼來了

  • Hawkeye's here.

    鷹眼來了

  • Move into the spare.

    搬進備用房

  • Spare, get ready.

    備用,準備好。

  • Spare, get ready.

    備用,準備好。

  • You ready?

    準備好了嗎?

  • Shooter's down.

    射手倒下了

  • Shooter's down.

    射手倒下了

  • Are we good?

    我們還好嗎?

  • Shooter's down.

    射手倒下了

  • Shooter's down.

    射手倒下了

  • Are we good to move?

    我們可以搬家嗎?

  • We're good to move.

    我們可以行動了

  • We're clear.

    我們很清楚。

  • We're clear.

    我們很清楚。

  • Clear.

    清除。

  • Clear.

    清除。

  • We're clear.

    我們很清楚。

  • Clear.

    清除。

  • Clear.

    清除。

  • Clear.

    清除。

  • Clear.

    清除。

  • Clear.

    清除。

  • Let me get my shoes off.

    讓我把鞋脫了

  • I got you, sir.

    我抓住你了,先生

  • Let me get my shoes off.

    讓我把鞋脫了

  • Let me take my shoes off.

    讓我把鞋脫了

  • Okay.

    好的

  • Let's shoot it down.

    讓我們把它擊落。

  • Watch out.

    小心

  • Wait, wait.

    等等,等等

  • USA, USA, USA...

    美國,美國,美國...

  • Primetime anchors Caitlin Collins and Abbi Phillip are are here with me.

    黃金時段主播凱特琳-柯林斯(Caitlin Collins)和阿比-菲利普(Abbi Phillip)和我在一起。

  • Caitlin, I know you've been talking to sources.

    凱特琳,我知道你一直在和消息來源談話。

  • What's the latest you're hearing?

    你聽到的最新消息是什麼?

  • The entire campaign apparatus is just deeply rattled.

    整個競選機構都深感不安。

  • A lot of people have not been able to have a chance to speak with the former president directly.

    很多人都沒有機會與前總統直接對話。

  • A few of them have.

    有幾個人已經這樣做了。

  • Obviously, we heard from him himself, but even his children just had a few brief moments on the phone with them.

    顯然,我們聽到了他本人的聲音,但就連他的孩子們也只是在電話中與他們簡短地聊了幾句。

  • We've heard from from most of them so far, all obviously still processing this.

    到目前為止,我們已經收到了他們中大多數人的來信,他們顯然都還在處理這件事。

  • I mean, obviously, every president is hyper aware of their security and their surroundings ever since what happened to to to President

    我的意思是,很明顯,自從發生了那件事之後,每位總統都對自己的安全和周圍環境有了高度的認識。

  • Reagan and also JFK.

    里根,還有肯尼迪。

  • Donald Trump himself is also one of those.

    唐納德-川普本人也是其中之一。

  • I mean, I've been to dozens of these rallies.

    我是說,我參加過幾十次這樣的集會。

  • This is outside, obviously.

    這顯然是在室外。

  • So the security parameter is different.

    是以,安全參數是不同的。

  • But you go through Secret Service security to go into any rally like this.

    但你要通過特勤局的安檢才能進入這樣的集會。

  • You go through a magnetometer.

    通過磁強計

  • You have that instance.

    你有這個例子。

  • I should note what I'm hearing from a lot of them is questions about the security here and what happened and how something like this could happen, because it does seem unthinkable, I think.

    我要指出的是,我從很多人那裡聽到的都是關於這裡的安全問題,以及發生了什麼,怎麼會發生這樣的事情,因為我認為這看起來確實是不可想象的。

  • And the House Oversight Chair, James Comer, just put out a statement saying that he has reached out to the Secret Service director.

    眾議院監督委員會主席詹姆斯-科默(James Comer)剛剛發表聲明稱,他已經聯繫了特勤局局長。

  • He's requesting briefings.

    他要求聽取簡報

  • We are going to see action on Capitol Hill as a result of this, even though we are very much still learning so much of this.

    我們將看到國會山是以而採取的行動,儘管我們還在學習很多東西。

  • But I also spoke with people who were there.

    但我也和當時在場的人聊過。

  • I'm not going to say the name of one of the people I was on the phone with just because they had to get off very quickly.

    我不想說和我通電話的其中一個人的名字,因為他們必須很快掛斷電話。

  • So I don't want to disclose their identity.

    所以我不想透露他們的身份。

  • But they were right up there near the front when this happened.

    但事情發生時,他們就在前線附近。

  • And they said you could see Trump react as obviously, as he says now, it was a bullet that grazed his ear.

    他們說,你可以看到川普的反應,很明顯,就像他現在說的,子彈擦過了他的耳朵。

  • And you can hear the panic in his voice in those first few moments in the audio where he's saying, let me get my shoes, let me get my shoes.

    你可以從音頻中聽到他的聲音中透露出的恐慌,他說 "讓我去拿鞋,讓我去拿鞋"。

  • And then he's whisked off stage.

    然後他就被趕下臺了。

  • He pumped his fist, as you can see here in this photo right now.

    他揮了揮拳頭,就像你現在在這張照片上看到的那樣。

  • I was told that as he was taken down into the motorcade before he was taken to the hospital there in Butler, Pennsylvania, he kind of pumped his fist again and had this defiant kind of stance, you know, reacting in the moment to what happened.

    有人告訴我,在他被送往賓夕法尼亞州巴特勒的醫院之前,他被送下車隊時,他又揮舞了一下拳頭,擺出一副挑釁的姿態,你知道,他是在對發生的事情做出反應。

  • He has left the hospital, but a lot of people obviously are still just trying to get in touch with him and to talk to him in the aftermath of this.

    他已經出院了,但很多人顯然還在試圖與他取得聯繫,並在事後與他交談。

  • Yeah, I mean, it is inconceivable that something like this could have happened.

    是的,我的意思是,這種事情的發生簡直匪夷所思。

  • I mean, I've covered President Obama, President Trump, candidates, even at outdoor rallies, in fact, especially at outdoor rallies, the kind of security that they would have, the perimeter, not just where people are going, but all the buildings surrounding it.

    我的意思是,我報道過奧巴馬總統、川普總統、候選人,即使是在戶外集會上,事實上,尤其是在戶外集會上,他們會有什麼樣的安保措施,周邊環境,不僅僅是人們要去的地方,還有周圍的所有建築。

  • There's a reason that that whole apparatus is supposed to extend even beyond just the the rally itself.

    整套設備甚至應該超越集會本身,這是有原因的。

  • And it's because of this country's long, dark history with exactly this scenario.

    而這正是因為這個國家長期以來與這種情況有著不解之緣。

  • They have counter snipers who are with binoculars, scanning buildings all over, usually on top of those very buildings.

    他們有反狙擊手,拿著雙筒望遠鏡,掃描各地的建築物,通常就在這些建築物的頂部。

  • And so, I mean, this is not, unfortunately, as Tim said, not a new scenario for this country.

    是以,我的意思是,不幸的是,正如蒂姆所說,這並不是這個國家的新情況。

  • In fact, it is a scenario that's played out too many times in this country.

    事實上,這種情況在這個國家已經上演了太多次。

  • And the Secret Service is deeply aware of that.

    特勤局對此深有體會。

  • Every single time that a protectee is comes even close to an incident like this.

    每一次被保護人都會遇到這樣的事件。

  • It's something that sets off an incredible amount of soul searching within the organization.

    這在組織內部引起了極大的反思。

  • And I'm sure this one will, too.

    我相信這一次也會如此。

  • But for the country tonight, you know, I think so many people on it doesn't matter where you are in the political spectrum.

    但對於今晚的國家來說,你知道,我認為很多人都在討論,無論你的政治立場如何。

  • I'm hearing from them, obviously, tonight.

    顯然,我今晚就會聽到他們的消息。

  • People are stunned and they're worried.

    人們目瞪口呆,憂心忡忡。

  • They are worried about what is going to happen in this country.

    他們擔心這個國家會發生什麼。

  • We still have some four months before the end of this election, and this is occurring before a major political event.

    距離選舉結束還有四個月左右的時間,而這一切都發生在重大政治事件之前。

  • There is a lot of fear in the country right now about what this portends and also what it says about where we are.

    現在,國內有很多人擔心這預示著什麼,也擔心這說明了我們的處境。

  • And you think, I mean, it's, you know, there's Ronald Reagan, but Steve Scalise, Nancy Pelosi, the man who came to her house who pulled out a statement tonight as well.

    你認為,我的意思是,你知道,有羅納德-里根,但史蒂夫-斯卡利斯,南希-佩洛西,來到她家的那個人今晚也發表了一份聲明。

  • Gabby Giffords as well.

    加比-吉福茲也是如此。

  • Yeah, I mean, we've seen these incidents before, but there's something, Anderson, particular about it happening in the context of a presidential campaign.

    是的,我的意思是,這些事件我們以前也見過,但安德森,在總統競選的背景下發生,還是有些特別。

  • It's a sign, as President Biden said tonight, of a sickness in the country that someone thought to take a step to alter or affect the outcome of a presidential election with an act like this.

    正如拜登總統今晚所說的那樣,這是一個國家病態的標誌,有人竟然想到用這樣的行為來改變或影響總統選舉的結果。

  • And for the people who are watching tonight, who are wondering what this means, I mean, they are right to wonder, because I think we all have to be prepared for a lot of chaos ahead.

    對於今晚收看節目的觀眾來說,他們想知道這意味著什麼,我的意思是,他們想知道是對的,因為我認為我們都必須為未來的混亂做好準備。

  • But I also think it's a moment for the country to decide right now what kind of country we live in and whether or not this is the kind of thing that is going to really change how we conduct ourselves.

    但我也認為,現在是國家決定我們生活在一個什麼樣的國家的時刻,也是決定這是否會真正改變我們行為方式的時刻。

  • I mean, I think it is still within the power of patriotic citizens in this country to push back against this kind of darkness.

    我的意思是,我認為這個國家的愛國公民仍然有能力反擊這種黑暗。

  • Well, and just on the security aspect of this, there were counter snipers there.

    在安全方面,那裡有反狙擊手。

  • You can see them in videos because there is a building behind.

    你可以在視頻中看到它們,因為後面有一棟建築。

  • Obviously, this is...

    顯然,這是...

  • He's in Butler County.

    他在巴特勒郡

  • This is deep Trump country.

    這裡是深深的川普國。

  • But there's a building that you can see that was kind of behind where Trump is at on the stage.

    但你可以看到,川普所在的舞臺後面有一棟建築。

  • You can see it in the photos that people who were there took and the videos that they took.

    你可以從現場人員拍攝的照片和視頻中看到這一點。

  • You see the counter snipers on there.

    你看那上面的反狙擊手。

  • You can see them anytime Trump is somewhere.

    只要川普在哪裡,你隨時都能看到他們。

  • You often see them.

    你經常能看到它們。

  • I think also the question and what we're hearing tonight, you mentioned the Republican convention that is starting in Milwaukee on Monday, where Trump and many of his surrogates were slated to travel to as soon as tomorrow.

    我認為這個問題也是我們今晚所聽到的,你提到了週一將在密爾沃基舉行的共和黨大會,川普和他的許多代理人計劃明天就前往那裡。

  • We are told it is still expected to go forward.

    據悉,該項目仍有望繼續進行。

  • We'll see if that changes as the night progresses and as this investigation is getting underway.

    隨著夜幕的降臨和調查的展開,我們將看到情況是否會發生變化。

  • But security was already an issue there.

    但那裡的安全已經是個問題。

  • The footprint, the RNC wanted it to be wider than what it was.

    共和黨全國委員會希望可以比原本去更多的地方巡迴

  • I do think this is only going to make it and the Democratic

    我確實認為這只會讓民主黨

  • Convention in Chicago and a month from now only even more intense as they're learning more about this.

    在芝加哥舉行的大會和一個月後的大會上,他們會了解到更多相關資訊,是以會更加緊張。

It is about 9.30 p.m. here on the East Coast.

現在是東海岸的晚上 9 時 30 分左右。

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