Name: 191.你能改變自己的性格嗎？| 沒有愚蠢的問題 (191. Can You Change Your Personality? | No Stupid Questions)
Uploaded: 2024-07-05T06:48:09.000Z
Duration: 39 min 4 s

And you're listening to No Stupid Questions.

您正在收聽的是《沒有愚蠢的問題》。

Today on the show, how fixed is personality?

I take comfort in knowing that I am just like everyone else in deluding myself.

我很欣慰，因為我知道我和其他人一樣，都在自欺欺人。

Angela, today we have a fascinating question about how fixed personality is.

安吉拉，今天我們有一個關於固定人格的精彩問題。

Mike, you and I have been talking about personality so much lately.

邁克，你和我最近經常談到個性。

I know, mostly because I think I need a better one.

我知道，主要是因為我覺得我需要一個更好的。

我想我們很多人都有這種感覺。

Okay, well let me read you this question from Joshua Curtis.

好的，讓我來讀一下約書亞-柯蒂斯（Joshua Curtis）提出的問題。

我經常在想，性格到底有多固定？

I feel that while my personality has definite patterns, how pronounced those patterns are can vary given the environment that I'm in.

我覺得，雖然我的性格有明確的模式，但這些模式的明顯程度會隨著我所處的環境而變化。

This seems to be true both in the short term, for example, I have different personality at work than at home, but also true in the longer term.

這在短期內似乎是正確的，例如，我在工作時的性格與在家時不同，但在長期內也是正確的。

My personality is definitely different now that I'm in my late 30s compared to when I was in college.

我現在 30 多歲了，性格肯定和大學時不一樣。

This makes me wonder if personality tests should not be used to tell us about fixed traits that we have, but rather as tools for working to become closer to the people we would like to be.

這讓我想到，性格測試是否不應該用來告訴我們我們所擁有的固定特質，而應該作為一種工具，讓我們努力變得更接近我們希望成為的人。

Are there things we can do to intentionally change our personalities?

我們可以做些什麼來有意改變自己的性格嗎？

Can I just thank Joshua because I feel like we live in a particular cultural moment where self-improvement is a universal hobby.

請允許我感謝約書亞，因為我覺得我們生活在一個特殊的文化時代，在這個時代，自我提升是一種普遍的愛好。

And it is a timeless question, I mean, you know, philosophers and theologians of various types have been pondering character and how malleable it is since forever.

這是一個永恆的問題，我的意思是，你知道，各種類型的哲學家和神學家從古至今一直在思考性格以及性格的可塑性。

Before we jump totally into Joshua's question, I think it would help to just define, I mean, what is personality?

在我們深入探討約書亞的問題之前，我想我們應該先定義一下，我的意思是，什麼是個性？

Personality is something that psychologists would say, and this is very close to, I think, what most people would say who are not trained psychologists.

人格是心理學家會說的話，我想，這與大多數沒有受過心理訓練的人的說法非常接近。

Personality is the pattern of acting, thinking, and feeling that you have that is pretty consistent, and the emphasis is on pretty consistent, not perfectly consistent, pretty consistent across situations and across time.

人格是你的行為、思維和感覺模式，是相當一致的，重點是相當一致，而不是完全一致，是在不同情況下和不同時間內相當一致。

You know, your tendency to be cheerful or grim, your tendency to be talkative or shy, your tendency to be gritty or somebody who gives up easily on things.

你知道，你有開朗或陰沉的傾向，你有健談或害羞的傾向，你有堅韌或輕易放棄的傾向。

So when we talk about personality, the emphasis is on kind of the center of gravity of how we usually behave.

是以，當我們談論個性時，重點在於我們通常行為的重心。

Here's where I'd love to get back to Joshua's question and almost segment into two parts.

在這裡，我很想回到約書亞的問題上來，幾乎可以抽成兩個部分。

第一，我們的性格是如何變化的？

And then can we do things to intentionally change our personalities?

然後，我們能做些什麼來有意識地改變我們的個性嗎？

So I thought it may be interesting or maybe overly vulnerable, I don't know, to talk about how I think my personality has changed over time.

所以我覺得，談談我認為自己的性格是如何隨著時間的推移而改變的，也許會很有趣，也許會過於脆弱，我也不知道。

哦，這也太不像你了，邁克。 And oh, this is so un -you, Mike.

And I think maybe before we go into this, do you want to just mention, you've shared with me these big five personality traits just in their general sense, because I think that will help me talk through the changes in my personality.

我想，在我們討論這個問題之前，你是否想提一下，你已經和我分享了五大性格特徵的一般意義，因為我認為這將有助於我討論我性格中的變化。

Your little story of young Mike Mon before you became Mike Mon of today.

在你成為今天的邁克-蒙之前，你年輕時的邁克-蒙的小故事。

Yeah, for you and for Joshua and for anybody else who's curious about their own personality, it would be helpful to say on behalf of psychologists everywhere that there is an agreed-upon classification of personality traits.

是的，對於你，對於約書亞，對於其他任何對自己的個性感到好奇的人，我想代表所有的心理學家說，有一種公認的個性特徵分類法，這將會很有幫助。

And what I mean by agreed-upon is that if you go to University of Washington or you like go to Stanford or Yale or anywhere, all the psychologists there who teach intro psych will teach students that there are five major personality traits.

我所說的 "共識 "是指，如果你去華盛頓大學，或者斯坦福大學、耶魯大學或其他任何地方，那裡所有教授心理學入門的心理學家都會告訴學生，有五種主要的人格特質。

They're really personality trait families because they have a bunch of very specific traits within them, but there are these five families of personality traits that have been identified across the lifespan.

它們是真正的人格特質家族，因為其中有許多非常具體的特質，但有五個人格特質家族已在整個生命週期中被確認。

So Josh being in, I guess he said his late 30s, like true for Joshua, but also true for me who I'm in my mid-50s and my mom who's 89 and even a 15-year-old, et cetera.

喬舒亞今年 30 多歲，我猜他是這麼說的，這對喬舒亞來說是真的，但對我來說也是真的，我已經 50 多歲了，我媽媽 89 歲了，甚至還有一個 15 歲的孩子，等等。

So true across the lifespan and also true across culture.

在人的一生中都是如此，在不同的文化中也是如此。

So on every civilized continent, you can give people personality inventories.

是以，在每個文明大陸上，你都可以給人們編制個性清單。

And when you look at how they respond, you find these five clusters of personality traits.

當你觀察他們的反應時，你會發現這五組人格特質。

There's an acronym that I find useful, OCEAN, O-C-E-A-N, and the five personality families.

有一個縮寫詞我覺得很有用，OCEAN，O-C-E-A-N，還有五種人格家族。

One is openness, openness to experience or open-mindedness, so that's the O.

一種是開放性，對經驗的開放性或開放的心態，這就是 O。

C is for conscientiousness, you know, color-coded spice racks and organized lives and so forth.

C 代表認真負責，你知道，調味品架用顏色編碼，生活井井有條等等。

And the last one's a little bit of a downer, sorry, but the N is for neuroticism.

對不起，最後一個有點讓人沮喪，但 "N "代表神經質。

It's like a kind of an anachronistic term, but it's about being emotionally labile and also having a fair amount of negative emotion like anger, sadness, anxiety in your everyday experience.

這是個有點不合時宜的詞，但它指的是情緒易變，在你的日常經歷中也有相當多的負面情緒，比如憤怒、悲傷、焦慮。

Okay, well, let's dive into the ocean of my personality.

好了，讓我們一起進入我的個性海洋吧。

Well, I tried to think through, because again, you've shared this ocean idea with me before.

好吧，我試著想了想，因為你以前也和我分享過這個海洋的想法。

So I tried to go through where maybe I was spiking.

所以，我試著去看看自己可能在哪些方面出現了問題。

是以，作為一個孩子，我會說 "開放"。

I was very creative, very playful, as far as I remember it, but somewhat introverted and could be kind of shy.

在我的記憶中，我很有創造力，很愛玩，但有些內向，可能有點害羞。

As a teenager, I think conscientiousness took over and I was probably overly serious.

在青少年時期，我認為自覺性佔據了上風，我可能過於嚴肅了。

And I thought maybe if I did everything right, then no one could criticize and then I just fit in.

我想，也許只要我做的一切都對，就沒有人會責備我，我就能融入其中。

As a college student, it was kind of interesting because I think agreeableness and extroversion took over in me.

作為一名大學生，這有點有趣，因為我認為合意和外向在我身上佔了上風。

And I was very social and out there all the time.

我非常善於交際，經常出去玩。

I also did a two-year mission for my church.

我還為我的教會做了兩年的傳教工作。

And I think that was the first time I felt like I 100% belonged.

我想那是我第一次感覺到自己百分之百的歸屬感。

I went to upstate New York to Duanesburg, where Steven Dubner is from.

我去了紐約州北部的杜恩斯堡，史蒂文-杜伯納就來自那裡。

I always feel like when people say they go on a mission, it's some exotic location.

我總覺得，當人們說他們要去執行任務時，都會說是去某個異國他鄉。

You think of Korea, you think of Duanesburg, but people live there too.

你會想到韓國，你會想到杜安斯堡，但那裡也有人生活。

And I, in retrospect, was thrilled with the assignment.

現在回想起來，我對這項任務感到非常興奮。

But I think that that was like a place where this extroversion, agreeableness.

但我認為，這就像是一個地方 這種外向性，合群性。

And coming home from that experience, I think I was lost for a little while.

從那次經歷回家後，我想我迷失了一段時間。

I was very outwardly open and happy and extroverted.

我的外表非常開朗、快樂、外向。

But inwardly, I had some layers that I never let anybody in on.

但在內心深處，我有一些從未讓人瞭解的層面。

Out of, I don't know if it was insecurity or self-preservation.

我不知道是出於不安全感，還是出於自我保護。

This is a dumb example, but I think maybe signifies how my personality changed.

這是一個很蠢的例子，但我覺得也許能說明我的性格是如何改變的。

And in my earlier years, if your team would score a touchdown, you would celebrate and be super happy.

在我早年的時候，如果你的球隊觸地得分，你就會慶祝，超級開心。

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