They've been really revealing.

它們真的很有啟發性。

You learn a lot from them.

你能從他們身上學到很多東西。

Some of them are really interesting, including ones that aren't discussed much.

其中一些非常有趣，包括一些討論不多的問題。

Most of them you've seen.

其中大部分你都見過。

For example, one of the WikiLeaks, one interesting question that should be in everybody's mind is what is the basis for the extraordinary relationship between the United States and Israel?

例如，在維基解密中，每個人都應該想到一個有趣的問題：美國和以色列之間非同尋常關係的基礎是什麼？

There are a lot of reasons for it.

原因有很多。

But one interesting aspect was revealed by a WikiLeaks cable, which I think wasn't reported.

但維基解密的一份電報披露了一個有趣的方面，我認為這一點沒有被報道。

One of the cables listed, of the leaks, listed a document, an internal U.S. document, Pentagon document, which listed the top strategic priorities of the United States, regions in the world that were so important that we had to protect them at all costs.

其中一份電報列出了一份文件，一份美國內部文件，五角大樓的文件，其中列出了美國的最高戰略優先事項，即世界上非常重要的地區，我們必須不惜一切代價保護它們。

There were maybe, I forget how many, a dozen or so.

我忘了有多少人，大概有十幾個吧。

One of them was right outside Haifa, Rafael Military Industries, major military industry.

其中一個就在海法郊外，拉斐爾軍事工業，主要的軍事工業。

That's one of the main places where drone technology has been developed.

這是無人機技術發展的主要領域之一。

The links between U.S. and Israeli high-tech military industry are extremely close.

美國和以色列高科技軍事工業之間的聯繫極為密切。

In fact, in this case, Rafael, the biggest industry, the ties are so close that Rafael actually moved its management headquarters to Washington, where the money is.

事實上，在這種情況下，拉斐爾作為最大的行業，其關係是如此密切，以至於拉斐爾實際上將其管理總部搬到了華盛頓，因為錢就在那裡。

Well, what that tells you, that gives an interesting insight into the nature of the relationship.

這讓你對這種關係的本質有了有趣的認識。

Israel is now, does play a major role, small country, but good high-tech industry.

以色列現在確實發揮著重要作用，國家雖小，但高科技產業發達。

And it plays a major role in repression and aggression.

它在鎮壓和侵略中扮演著重要角色。

It's developed, the Israeli arms fairs, where they sell their arms, they advertise correctly that they have developed advanced means of repression and control, and that the arms that they're displaying are battlefield tested, namely against the Palestinians.

在以色列出售武器的軍火展覽會上，他們正確地宣傳他們已經開發出先進的鎮壓和控制手段，他們展示的武器經過了戰場測試，即針對巴勒斯坦人的測試。

So they've refined the techniques of control.

是以，他們改進了控制技術。

And they contribute to that all over the place, Central America, even in the United States.

在中美洲，甚至在美國，到處都有他們的身影。

They're providing advice on how to bar Honduran immigrants, say, from coming to the United States.

例如，他們就如何禁止洪都拉斯移民來美提供建議。

They help train police and so on.

他們幫助培訓警察等等。

Many examples.

例子很多。

Well, that's only one case, but there have been many other cases of the WikiLeaks materials.

這只是一個案例，但維基解密的材料還有很多其他案例。

It's really worth reading through them, not just the ones that, you know, do get reported, but many other ones.

真的值得一讀，不僅僅是那些，你知道，確實被報道過的，還有很多其他的。

There's actually a volume that just came out on WikiLeaks, which is important reading.

實際上，維基解密剛剛出版了一卷書，這是很重要的讀物。