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  • Mike, appreciate you sitting down with me.

    邁克,很感謝你能和我坐在一起。

  • This is really an honor, one, because of who you are, but more than that, we're obviously here on a golf course, and it's a pretty special bond in terms of the basketball players who love golf.

    這真的是一種榮譽,一是因為你的身份,但更重要的是,我們顯然是在高爾夫球場上,對於熱愛高爾夫的籃球運動員來說,這是一種非常特殊的緣分。

  • That group is growing by the year.

    這個群體正在逐年擴大。

  • There's a lot more people picking up the game, but you've been in it for a long time, and I'm fascinated just to know how that love for golf in general just started, and how you balanced golf and basketball while you were playing, because I'm in that boat right now, and I feel like sometimes I'm playing too much golf, and sometimes I feel like I'm not playing enough.

    現在有越來越多的人開始打高爾夫球,但你已經打了很長時間了,我很想知道你對高爾夫球的熱愛是如何開始的,你是如何在打球的同時兼顧高爾夫球和籃球的,因為我現在也是這樣,我覺得有時候我打了太多的高爾夫球,有時候我又覺得我打得不夠。

  • Well, that's the easiest point.

    這是最簡單的一點。

  • I mean, that's the easiest question I can answer, is that when I was playing, it was snow on the ground in Chicago.

    我的意思是,這是我能回答的最簡單的問題,因為當我演奏時,芝加哥的地面上正在下雪。

  • There was no golf courses.

    沒有高爾夫球場。

  • There was nothing.

    什麼都沒有。

  • If there was, things would have been a little bit different, but I kind of got into golf mainly because from a competitive standpoint, to me, it is the hardest game to play.

    如果有的話,情況就會有點不同,但我接觸高爾夫球主要是因為從競技的角度來看,對我來說,它是最難打的比賽。

  • Absolutely.

    當然。

  • I can always respond to an opponent, a defensive guy, offensive guy, whatever, but in golf, it's like playing in a mirror, and you're battling yourself consistently to try to get perfection every swing, every putt.

    無論對手是防守型選手還是進攻型選手,我都能應對自如,但打高爾夫就像在照鏡子,每次揮杆、每次推杆,你都在與自己較勁,力求完美。

  • Yes!

    是的!

  • Thank you!

    謝謝!

  • For a competitive person like me, this is what keeps me sane, because when I walk away from the game of basketball, that was enough to keep my competitive juices working.

    對於像我這樣好勝的人來說,這就是讓我保持清醒的原因,因為當我離開籃球比賽時,這足以讓我的好勝心得到滿足。

  • Absolutely.

    當然。

  • Now, when I don't have that game, this game, and it even drives me crazy then.

    現在,當我沒有那款遊戲時,這款遊戲甚至會讓我抓狂。

  • Now I go fishing in between my golf, because I gotta show patience in fishing that's gonna be relative to golf.

    現在,我在打高爾夫的間隙去釣魚,因為我必須在釣魚時表現出與打高爾夫相對應的耐心。

  • Good morning, and welcome to the first day of the 43rd Ryder Cup.

    早上好,歡迎來到第 43 屆萊德杯的第一天。

  • We're here at the Ryder Cup.

    我們在這裡參加萊德杯。

  • We're here at Whistling Straits.

    我們在威斯林海峽。

  • I'm fascinated by this event, because this is my first time here, and when you get here and you see the atmosphere, you see the chants and the noise, and I'm wondering, what do you think, from a team perspective, when guys are individuals throughout the whole year, how does that permeate in golf?

    我對這項賽事非常著迷,因為這是我第一次來到這裡,當你來到這裡,看到這裡的氣氛,看到這裡的吶喊和喧鬧,我想知道,從團隊的角度來看,當球員們全年都是個人時,你怎麼看這一點在高爾夫中的滲透?

  • Because with us, we hit rah-rah in the locker room.

    因為在我們這裡,更衣室裡充滿了歡呼聲。

  • How's that accountability, you think, work in that locker room when guys are on different journeys?

    你認為,在更衣室裡,當球員們處於不同的旅程中時,責任感是如何發揮作用的?

  • It's tough, you know what I mean?

    這很艱難,你明白我的意思嗎?

  • I've had countless conversations with some of the players, and if I can put it in the most simplest terms, is that you have to give up bits and pieces of who you are for the benefit of the team, and that can be something so simple as either response, support, spending time, having lunch, dinner, either way.

    我和一些球員進行過無數次談話,如果用最簡單的話來說,就是為了球隊的利益,你必須捨棄自己的一點一滴,這可以是簡單的迴應、支持,也可以是共度時光、共進午餐或晚餐,無論哪種方式。

  • I learned that later in my years, because initially in basketball, I was so focused in my craft, that that's what matters the most, but to win, you have to give parts of yourself to other people, and look at people in a different manner, and come to accept them.

    我後來才知道,因為最初打籃球時,我非常專注於自己的技藝,那才是最重要的,但要想贏球,你就必須把自己的一部分交給別人,用不同的方式去看待別人,去接受他們。

  • Ryder Cup is very similar in the same sense.

    萊德杯也是如此。

  • I mean, yeah, you got Tiger Woods on your team.

    我的意思是,是的,你有老虎伍茲在你的團隊。

  • Tiger Woods can only win one point, and he may not even win it, depending on if you're playing alternate shot.

    泰格-伍茲只能贏得一分,而且他甚至可能贏不了,這取決於你是否在玩交替擊球。

  • So it's things that you have to factor in.

    所以,這些都是你必須考慮的因素。

  • Our best asset is on singles, but we always seem to struggle in alternate shot and two-pin basketball.

    我們最擅長的是單打,但在交替投籃和兩分球方面似乎總是很吃力。

  • Now, I think it's been something that the European team has always been able to capitalize on, and for us, we should learn from that.

    現在,我認為歐洲球隊總是能夠利用這一點,對我們來說,我們應該從中吸取教訓。

  • Well, a fixture at Ryder Cup through the years.

    多年來,他一直是萊德杯的常客。

  • I first remember seeing Michael Jordan at his first Ryder Cup in Valderrama, Spain in 1997.

    我第一次見到邁克爾-喬丹是 1997 年在西班牙瓦爾德拉馬舉行的萊德杯上。

  • These guys can go to any event they want in the world, and they never miss the Ryder Cup.

    這些人可以參加世界上任何他們想參加的賽事,但他們從未錯過萊德杯。

  • I know you've traveled to Europe and been on the road venues.

    我知道你去過歐洲,也在路上演出過。

  • You've been in home venues.

    你去過主場。

  • If you were on the Ryder Cup team, would you rather be playing on the road, somewhere in Europe, playing against that road crowd, being able to shut them up, or would you rather be on home turf, hyping and feeling the energy here with the home action?

    如果你是萊德杯參賽隊的一員,你是願意在客場比賽,在歐洲的某個地方,與客場的觀眾比賽,讓他們閉嘴,還是願意在主場比賽,在主場吶喊,感受這裡的能量?

  • You know the answer to that.

    你知道答案的。

  • I know, I just want to hear it.

    我知道,我就是想聽。

  • I'd rather be on the road.

    我寧願在路上。

  • I'd rather be on the road.

    我寧願在路上。

  • I love playing on the road, and it seems as though your concentration level is much, much better.

    我喜歡在路上比賽,你的注意力似乎更集中了。

  • You know that you're not expected to win, so that you can have the opportunity to prove the unknown.

    你要知道,人們並不指望你贏,這樣你才有機會證明未知。

  • And a lot of times when you play at home, you let your hair down, you get relaxed.

    很多時候,當你在家裡比賽時,你會把頭髮放下來,變得放鬆。

  • You see more friends, you see more family.

    你會見到更多的朋友,見到更多的家人。

  • You gotta worry about tickets.

    你得擔心門票。

  • You gotta worry about so many other different things.

    你得擔心很多其他不同的事情。

  • So I always love playing on the road, so it minimizes my thought process, and I can focus on my craft.

    是以,我總是喜歡在路上演出,這樣可以最大限度地減少我的思考過程,讓我可以專注於我的技藝。

  • And I would imagine if I was playing on the Ryder Cup, that's exactly, I would much rather play in Europe than to play at home.

    我想,如果我參加萊德杯比賽,那就是這樣,我更願意在歐洲比賽,而不是在國內比賽。

  • Go!

    去吧

  • And there's another one for Dustin Johnson.

    達斯汀-約翰遜還有一個。

  • That's Michael Jordan on board.

    邁克爾-喬丹在船上

  • We've got a lot of different characters on the USA team.

    美國隊中有很多不同的角色。

  • Do you see yourself in any of the Team USA members?

    你在美國隊成員中看到自己的影子嗎?

  • Who do you see yourself in the most in terms of their demeanor on the course, or something about them?

    在球場上,你最能從誰身上看到自己的影子?

  • Wow, that's hard, that's so hard.

    哇,太難了,太難了。

  • You could say nobody, because they ain't on your level yet.

    你可以說沒人,因為他們還沒達到你的水準。

  • No, I think, you know, I like to say that the competitive nature is, you can see that in a lot of the guys, and it comes in a lot of different ways.

    不,我認為,你知道,我喜歡說競爭的天性,你可以在很多球員身上看到這一點,它以不同的方式出現。

  • You know, I can see a little bit of myself in JT.

    我在 JT 身上看到了自己的影子。

  • I can see a little bit of myself in Brooks.

    我在布魯克斯身上看到了自己的影子。

  • I can see a little bit of my calmness and confidence in DJ.

    我在 DJ 身上看到了我的冷靜和自信。

  • So I mean, I can see a lot of those qualities that take to be successful.

    所以我的意思是,我可以看到很多成功所需要的品質。

  • Basketball, especially in the way that you play the game, you could impact the game on both ends of the floor.

    籃球,尤其是你打球的方式,你可以在地板的兩端影響比賽。

  • And you always, I'm sure you always felt like there was time for you to flip a switch and get things back under control.

    而你,我相信你總是覺得,是時候打開開關,讓一切恢復正常了。

  • In golf, you can't really control what the other person's doing.

    在高爾夫球場上,你無法真正控制對方在做什麼。

  • How do you think that mentality is mastered in golf?

    您認為在高爾夫運動中,這種心態是如何形成的?

  • I think when I talk to all of my buddies, and you know, when they're playing the big matches, and I see that they're leading, you know, the first thing I type to them or I text them is keep it simple.

    我想,當我和我所有的朋友哈拉時,你知道,當他們打大型比賽時,當我看到他們領先時,你知道,我給他們打字或發短信的第一件事就是保持簡單。

  • Because now you're not trying to overdo, overthink, you know, just keep it simple.

    因為現在你不會做得太過分、想得太多,你知道,只要簡單就好。

  • Fairways and greens, you know, blah, blah, blah.

    球道和果嶺,諸如此類。

  • You can't get it all back in one hole.

    你不可能在一個洞裡把所有東西都拿回來。

  • You gotta take a shot at a time.

    你必須一次一個鏡頭。

  • To me, those are simple conversations.

    對我來說,這些都是簡單的對話。

  • That's a simple way to stop what you're thinking.

    這是讓你停止思考的一個簡單方法。

  • I know it's a writer cup.

    我知道這是作家杯。

  • I know there's a bunch of people watching.

    我知道有很多人在看。

  • I'm down five and after five, let's just keep it simple.

    我落後五分,五分之後,讓我們簡單點。

  • Let's hit fairways and greens.

    讓我們擊打球道和果嶺。

  • Now, that's all you can do.

    現在,你能做的只有這些了。

  • You know, you can't just turn the switch and say, you know what, erase the five, let's start all over again.

    你知道,你不能只是打開開關,然後說,你知道嗎,擦掉這五個,讓我們重新開始。

  • No, you gotta channel your thoughts to start basically working way back to getting more confident about your swing, scoring or even the match.

    不,你必須引導自己的思想,從根本上開始努力,讓自己對揮杆、得分甚至比賽更有信心。

  • Now, it may not happen that way, but I think that's a good start.

    現在,情況可能不會這樣,但我認為這是一個良好的開端。

  • And sometimes it does.

    有時確實如此。

  • I've been to a couple of PGA events.

    我參加過幾次 PGA 賽事。

  • I've been to one major.

    我去過一個大學校。

  • This is my first writer cup.

    這是我第一次參加作家杯。

  • This is the first time that I've been on a course watching and haven't gotten the itch to go play.

    這是我第一次在球場上觀戰,卻沒有心癢癢想去打球。

  • And I say that because the competition is so ripe.

    我之所以這麼說,是因為競爭已經非常成熟。

  • Usually when I go to a tournament, I'm like, dang, like the shots are inspiring me to, I want to go to the range right now and work on this and that.

    通常,當我去參加一場比賽時,我就會想,噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹噹當,就像這些球在激勵我,我想馬上去靶場練練這個練練那個。

  • You feel like a similar vibe is that competitive nature is still like, I want to- I stay in my lane.

    你會感覺到一種類似的氛圍,那就是好勝的天性依然如故,我想--我保持我的風格。

  • I stay in my lane.

    我只做我該做的事。

  • I watch these guys are good.

    我看這些人都不錯。

  • Yeah, they're great.

    是的,他們很棒。

  • And to watch them under the pressure of being able to hit shot after shot after shot, knowing that you got so many thousands of people against you and you have so many thousands of people supporting you.

    看著他們在壓力下一次又一次地投籃命中,知道有成千上萬的人反對你,也有成千上萬的人支持你。

  • You don't want to let them down.

    你不想讓他們失望。

  • Being able to represent that fan base, USA or Europe.

    能夠代表美國或歐洲的粉絲群體。

  • And for me, I don't have the skillset to put myself in that environment.

    對我來說,我不具備將自己置身於這種環境中的技能。

  • Now, if you tell me I got a basketball in my hand, now that's a different story.

    現在,如果你告訴我,我手裡有一個籃球,那就另當別論了。

  • But if I had a golf club in my hand, there's no way I can get comfortable to hit a 50 yard shot or a hundred yard shot.

    但如果我手裡拿著高爾夫球杆,我就不可能自如地打出 50 碼或 100 碼的球。

  • Not with all these people.

    有這麼多人就不行了。

  • Not with all these people.

    有這麼多人就不行了。

  • He's got President Bush, Michael Jordan over his right shoulder.

    他的右肩上有布什總統和邁克爾-喬丹。

  • He's got a big moment here to try to turn this thing around.

    現在是他扭轉乾坤的大好時機。

  • Who on the European team would you be most scared to play against?

    你最害怕與歐洲隊中的誰比賽?

  • And I hate using that word with you.

    我討厭對你用這個詞。

  • I'm not scared of anybody, I mean, but Ian Poulter.

    我不怕任何人,我是說,除了伊恩-保爾特。

  • He is a top legend.

    他是一位頂級傳奇人物。

  • I used to go and watch him all the time.

    我經常去看他。

  • If I'm at any of his matches or walking down, he finds me after he makes a good putt.

    如果我參加了他的任何一場比賽,或者走下來,他就會在推杆得手後找到我。

  • And it's like, man, I didn't do anything.

    就好像,我什麼都沒做。

  • I like you.

    我喜歡你

  • I support you.

    我支持你。

  • I stay away from him when he's walking, when I'm walking.

    他走路的時候我離他遠點,我走路的時候也離他遠點。

  • I won't go watch him.

    我不會去看他。

  • You sparked the miracle of Medina, right?

    是你創造了麥地那的奇蹟,對嗎?

  • I didn't spark it.

    我沒擦出火花。

  • I don't know how I did it.

    我不知道我是怎麼做到的。

  • I had my own thoughts about it, but I didn't spark it.

    我有自己的想法,但我沒有引發它。

  • Those are maniacal eyes, aren't they?

    那是一雙癲狂的眼睛,不是嗎?

  • And we went from definitely winning the Medina to crying driving home that we just got our butts kicked.

    我們從肯定贏得麥地那比賽,到開車回家時哭著說我們剛被踢了屁股。

  • And that is, that's Ian Poulter.

    他就是伊恩-保爾特。

  • There's always that debate on whether you, you hate losing more than you love winning, right?

    人們總是在爭論,你是否討厭輸比喜歡贏更多,對嗎?

  • And I feel like for me, losing just is the worst feeling in life at anything, whether it's cars, golf, basketball, whatever it is.

    我覺得對我來說,輸掉比賽是人生中最糟糕的感覺,不管是汽車、高爾夫、籃球還是其他什麼。

  • You know, how do you feel about that?

    你對此有何感想?

  • And also like how you think that translates in terms of a team competition in golf that these guys are going through?

    還有,你認為這些人在高爾夫球的團隊比賽中是如何體現這一點的?

  • I hate losing.

    我討厭輸球。

  • I mean, it's not even a question, but I mean, I have to respect losing because losing is a part of winning.

    我的意思是,這甚至不是一個問題,但我的意思是,我必須尊重失敗,因為失敗是勝利的一部分。

  • You know, you never would just, you know, win.

    你知道,你永遠不會,你知道,贏。

  • You got to lose to win.

    輸了才能贏

  • And I think the one thing about, you know, the Ryder Cup situation is that we got to want it bad enough.

    我認為,萊德杯的一個特點是,我們必須對它有足夠的渴望。

  • We were dominant early on.

    我們一開始就佔據了優勢。

  • And now that they are, does it mean as much to us as it does to them?

    而現在,他們做到了,這對我們的意義是否和對他們的意義一樣重要?

  • Absolutely.

    當然。

  • And if that's the case, then losing, it's going to hurt.

    如果是這樣的話,那麼輸球就會很痛苦。

  • Absolutely.

    當然。

  • You know, to a point where you would look at how can I do things different?

    你知道,到了一定程度,你就會考慮我怎樣才能把事情做得與眾不同?

  • How can I change?

    我該如何改變?

  • How can I make this team better?

    我怎樣才能讓這個團隊變得更好?

  • And that's, that's the thing about a team.

    這就是團隊的魅力所在。

  • And you know, this too, is that before you can look at someone else, you got to look at yourself in the mirror because that's how things get started.

    要知道,這也是在你看別人之前,你必須先照照鏡子,因為事情就是這樣開始的。

  • And you got to be willing to change.

    你必須願意改變。

  • And you got to have a sense of pride about yourself.

    你必須對自己有一種自豪感。

  • It's not about the money.

    這不是錢的問題。

  • It's not about anything.

    這與任何事情都無關。

  • It's more about the pride.

    更多的是自豪感。

  • And you know, the best players, whoever's playing the best is going to win.

    你知道,最好的球員,誰打得最好,誰就能獲勝。

  • What's the most amount of holes you've played in one day?

    您一天打的最多的洞是多少?

  • Ooh, what?

    哦,什麼?

  • 63?

    63?

  • Damn.

    該死

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