Everybody's talking about Toby Bryant and Michael Jordan.

每個人都在談論柯比-布萊恩特和邁克爾-喬丹。

Oh, well, this is the matchup that everybody's been waiting to see.

哦，好吧，這就是大家期待已久的對決。

I learned a lot this game.

這場比賽我學到了很多。

A lot about how technically sound Michael was.

邁克爾在技術上有多麼出色。

Because it's one thing watching him play, and then it's another thing playing against him.

因為看他比賽是一回事，與他對陣又是另一回事。

He's now in a postgraduate course.

他現在正在攻讀研究所學生課程。

Yeah, boy.

是啊，孩子

Accelerated learning.

加速學習。

His technique was flawless.

他的技術完美無瑕。

I wanted to make sure my technique was just as flawless.

我想確保我的技術同樣完美無瑕。

That was very inspiring for me.

這對我很有啟發。

I remember talking to Michael about his motivation every night.

我記得每天晚上都會和邁克爾談論他的動力。

And he used to say that maybe there was somebody in the stands that never had a chance to see me play for the first time.

他常說，也許看臺上還有人沒有機會第一次看我比賽。

And I want to make sure that they go home and they see the best of me.

我要確保他們回家後看到的是最好的我。

I remember being a kid and going to games, expecting to see the players play.

我記得小時候去看比賽，期待看到球員們的表現。

It never occurred to me at the time that they might be tired, they might be sore, they might be sick.

我當時從未想過，他們可能會累，可能會痛，可能會生病。

It never occurred to me.

我從沒想過

I just wanted to see them do what they do.

我只是想看看他們的表演。

I think about that.

我是這麼想的。

It doesn't matter if I'm sick.

我病了也沒關係。

It doesn't matter if I have a sprained ankle.

我的腳踝扭傷了也沒關係。

The kid that's sitting in there might be the next me sitting up there, watching and trying to get inspiration from that.

坐在那裡的孩子可能就是下一個坐在那裡的我，我在觀察，並試圖從中獲得靈感。

I need to go out there and play.

我需要上場比賽。

Basketball never felt like work to me.

對我來說，籃球從來不是工作。

Once I came to the NBA and I looked around, I saw other guys that weren't working as much as I was.

當我來到 NBA 並環顧四周時，我發現其他人並不像我一樣努力工作。

Then I started to understand that how I went about it is hard work.

後來，我開始明白，我的做法是很辛苦的。

To me, I just love what I do, so I want to do it as much as possible.

對我來說，我只是熱愛我的工作，所以我想盡可能多地去做。

Passion.

激情

People have to be lucky to find passion in life.

人們必須幸運，才能在生活中找到激情。

Yeah, you do.

是啊

And if you're really lucky, you find it at an early age.

如果你真的很幸運，你會在很小的時候就發現它。

I am a 17-year-old kid.

我是一個 17 歲的孩子。

But at the same time, you have to understand when to separate business from pleasure.

但與此同時，你必須明白什麼時候該把公務和娛樂分開。

I figure you can mix the two.

我想你可以把這兩者混在一起。

If you mix the two, that's when you start to fall.

如果你把兩者混為一談，那就是你開始墮落的時候了。

Now it's time to go in there and it's time to do some work.

現在是時候進去做些工作了。

On the West Coast, L.A.

西海岸，洛杉磯

Showtime, doing our thing.

表演時間到了，我們開始吧

Backdowns.

後退

Fadeaways.

淡出

Crossover.

交叉。

Playground moves.

操場動作

Shades going behind your leg like that. 360.

墨鏡就這樣從你的腿後面360.

Turn in the air and spin it in.

在空中翻轉，然後旋轉。

Magnificent.

壯觀。

Did you set goals when you started in the NBA?

你進入 NBA 之初設定目標了嗎？

Did you have goals at that point?

你當時有目標嗎？

Certain things that you wanted to do?

你想做的某些事情？

Yeah, it was really simple for me at the time, which is win as many championships as possible.

是的，當時對我來說很簡單，就是儘可能多地贏得冠軍。

That was it.

就是這樣。

Growing up, I understood that to be the standard.

在我的成長過程中，我一直認為這是標準。

I watched Magic win five.

我看著魔術隊贏了五場。

The Lakers are the world champions.

湖人隊是世界冠軍

I watched Michael win six.

我看著邁克爾贏了六場。

People talk about your relationship with Michael Jordan.

人們都在談論你和邁克爾-喬丹的關係。

Let me straighten this out first.

讓我先把話說清楚。

The time at the Forum or wherever that was, Phil had Michael come to the game.

在論壇或者其他什麼地方，菲爾讓邁克爾來看比賽。

They sat at the table.

他們坐在桌邊。

You remember that.

你還記得吧

I read somewhere where it said that you didn't challenge him or he didn't challenge you.

我在某處讀到過，說是你沒有挑戰他，或者他沒有挑戰你。

It didn't happen.

這並沒有發生。

It did happen because I was sitting right there at the table.

這確實發生了，因為我就坐在桌邊。

So Phil asked Michael if he wasn't doing anything, just come by practice maybe to want to play.

於是菲爾問邁克爾，如果他沒什麼事，就來練習一下，也許想玩玩。

Maybe we can find out what you got.

也許我們能知道你得到了什麼。

And then you said back, no, maybe I'll find out what you got.

然後你回了一句，不，也許我會找出你的證據。

And then he said back, well, you can't guard me.

然後他回過頭來說，好吧，你守不住我。

And then you said, you can't guard me.

然後你說，你守不住我。

How old were you?

你當時多大？

21. 21 years old.

21.21 歲

It was a silent moment.

這是一個沉默的時刻。

And then when we walked out, when we walked down the hall, Michael goes, I love that dude, man.

然後當我們走出去 走過大廳的時候 邁克爾說 我愛死這哥們兒了

He's a warrior.

他是一個戰士。

Because you did not step back.

因為你沒有後退。

He's like, well, maybe we'll see.

他說，好吧，也許我們會看到的。

Let's play.

我們開始吧

We can play tomorrow.

我們明天可以比賽。

I got shoes.

我有鞋子

That's a foul all day long.

這簡直就是犯規。

Oh, I know you ain't talking.

哦，我知道你不會說的。

I know you ain't talking.

我知道你不會說的

Hey, you only got three now.

嘿，你現在只有三個了

I got six.

我有六個。

I would get that foul.

我會被判犯規的。

You only got three now.

你現在只有三個了

I grew up watching him.

我是看著他長大的。

And I grew up having that same type of edge and competitiveness.

我從小就有這種優勢和競爭力。

I know where you're going.

我知道你要去哪裡。

You got to get up quick.

你得快點起來

If you knew where I was going, why'd you go for the fake?

如果你知道我要去哪裡，為什麼還要去找假貨？

Mike, after you fake the ball, where else are you going to go?

邁克，你假球之後還能去哪兒？

You left your feet.

你離開了你的腳。

Yeah, but where else are you going to go?

是啊，但你還能去哪兒呢？

In the game, I go for you.

在遊戲中，我為你而戰。

I spun all the way around.

我轉了一圈。

I go for these ribs right here.

我選這裡的排骨

Michael and I both know there's certain players that we can intimidate.

邁克爾和我都知道，有些球員是我們能嚇倒的。

Certain players are afraid.

某些球員害怕了。

Three, two, one.

三、二、一

That's all right.

沒關係。

I shoot them better when the clock going down.

時間快到的時候，我射得更好。

But every now and then, you run into a player that has the same DNA that you do, has the same competitive spirit that you do, and you quickly realize that the bullying and the trash talking is not going to work with this person.

但時不時地，你會遇到一個球員，他和你有著同樣的基因，有著同樣的競爭精神，你很快就會意識到，恃強凌弱和垃圾話在這個人身上是行不通的。

I can guard you one-on-one.

我可以一對一防守你

You can what?

你能什麼？

It's nothing.

沒什麼。

Now I know you lost your mind.

現在我知道你瘋了

You think you can score on me?

你以為你能贏我？

Yeah.

是啊

What makes you think that?

你怎麼會這麼想？

That I can score on you?

我能在你身上得分？

Yeah.

是啊

No, I'm pretty confident I can score on you.

不，我很有信心在你身上得分。

Good.

很好。

Because you don't talk yourself into getting 50 dropped on you.

因為你不會說服自己讓別人給你 50 塊錢。

Have you run into anybody playing today, younger players, that have that same fire, that same passion that you have for the game?

你有沒有遇到過現在的年輕球員，擁有和你一樣的激情？

Westbrook plays mean.

威斯布魯克打得很凶。

Oh, with a vicious slam.

哦，一記凶狠的重摔。

He played mean like I did.

他和我打球一樣刻薄。

With an aggression.

帶著侵略性。

Much the way I play.

和我的玩法差不多。