The examiner is Mark Reed.

主考官是馬克-裡德。

Good morning.

早上好。

Can you tell me your full name, please?

能告訴我你的全名嗎？

Hello, my name is Justin Hegarthy.

你好，我叫賈斯汀-赫加蒂。

And what shall I call you?

我該怎麼稱呼你呢？

You can call me Justin.

你可以叫我賈斯汀

Okay, Justin.

好吧，賈斯汀。

Can I see your identification, please?

請出示證件

Yeah.

是啊

Thank you.

謝謝。

It's all fine.

這一切都很好。

Now, moving on to the first part of the test, I'd like to ask you some questions about yourself.

現在，進入測試的第一部分，我想問你一些關於你自己的問題。

Sure.

當然。

So tell me, Justin, where are you from?

告訴我，賈斯汀，你從哪裡來？

Yeah, so I'm from a very small, famous town called Dunkirk.

我來自一個非常有名的小鎮敦刻爾克

It's in France and it's on the English Channel.

它在法國，在英吉利海峽上。

That's interesting.

這很有趣。

Now, do you work or are you a student?

現在，你是在工作還是在學習？

Yeah, I study here.

是的，我在這裡學習。

I'm a student for the Bachelors of Science in Computers.

我是計算機專業的理科學士學生。

Ah, very good.

啊，非常好。

Now, let's talk about how you keep in contact with others.

現在，我們來談談你如何與他人保持聯繫。

Sure.

當然。

How do you usually get in touch with your friends?

您通常如何與朋友聯繫？

Yeah, so I have a mobile phone, so usually I just will call them if I want to talk to them.

是的，我有手機，所以如果我想和他們說話，通常會給他們打電話。

If it's something urgent and I can't talk on the phone, I'll just text them.

如果有急事，又不能打電話，我就給他們發短信。

But yeah, I usually call them.

不過，是的，我通常會給他們打電話。

So do you prefer to communicate with people by phone or writing emails?

那麼，您更喜歡通過電話還是寫電子郵件與人溝通呢？

Oh, definitely phone.

哦，肯定是電話。

Just because I prefer talking to them because I can hear their voice and kind of get a feeling for how they're feeling.

因為我更喜歡和他們交談，因為我能聽到他們的聲音，也能體會到他們的感受。

Just communication is better, in my opinion.

在我看來，只有交流才是最好的。

But with emails, it takes a bit for back and forth.

但如果是電子郵件，就需要來回折騰。

It just doesn't feel as personal to me.

對我來說，這並不那麼私人。

Why is that?

為什麼會這樣？

I really think it's just because you can't see their face.

我真的覺得這只是因為你看不到他們的臉。

It's definitely just not the same, I think I'd probably say.

我想我可能會說，這絕對是不一樣的。

I see.

我明白了

So is there anything you dislike about mobile phones?

那麼，您有什麼不喜歡手機的嗎？

Yeah, yes, definitely.

是的，是的，當然。

First off, I'm in public, I'm on the train, you can hear someone else on their phone talking with their speakerphone on in public.

首先，我在公共場合，我在火車上，你可以聽到別人在公共場合開著免提打電話。

It's the most annoying thing ever, I'll tell you that.

我告訴你，這是最煩人的事情。

You know, you hear their whole conversation, you know what I mean?

你知道，你會聽到他們的整個對話，你明白我的意思嗎？

I don't know.

我不知道。

It's true.

這是真的。

Now, let's talk about traveling.

現在，讓我們來談談旅行。

Do you enjoy traveling to different places?

您喜歡去不同的地方旅行嗎？

Oh, absolutely.

哦，當然。

I love traveling to new countries.

我喜歡去新的國家旅行。

If you probably took a map out right now of the UK, I've probably visited almost every place here.

如果你現在拿出一張英國地圖，我可能幾乎去過這裡的每一個地方。

You could point out a spot, I've probably been there.

你可以指出一個地方，我可能去過那裡。

The only reason I don't travel as much as I would like is just because I don't have as much time and money, you know, as I feel like I would need to do that.

我不經常旅行的唯一原因是，我沒有那麼多時間和金錢，你知道，我覺得我不需要那麼多時間和金錢。

But I love it.

但我喜歡它。

I get to meet new people, see new faces, things like that, you know.

我可以認識新朋友，看到新面孔，諸如此類。

So, tell me, what places have you been in the UK?

告訴我，你去過英國哪些地方？

I've been to London, Birmingham, Manchester with my friends during the holidays.

假期裡，我和朋友們去過倫敦、伯明翰和曼徹斯特。

London Bridge is probably my favorite, and then probably next would be the Prehistoric Museum, and after that probably the art galleries around there.

倫敦橋可能是我的最愛，接下來可能是史前博物館，然後可能是附近的藝術館。

Hmm, excellent.

嗯，很好。

Now, moving on to talking about your hometown in France, is your hometown a good place for Oh, yeah, absolutely.

現在，我們來談談你在法國的家鄉，你的家鄉是個好地方嗎？

And why?

為什麼？

Oh, yeah.

哦，是的

Children, absolutely.

孩子們，當然。

Just because there's a bunch of open fields and parks for them to play in.

就是因為有很多空地和公園供他們玩耍。

Teenagers, I'd probably say not so much just because there's not as much facilities like movie theaters and gyms and things like that and cafes, but definitely children, yes.

青少年，我可能會說沒有那麼多，只是因為沒有那麼多的設施，如電影院、健身房和類似的東西，還有咖啡館，但兒童肯定是有的。

Younger children, definitely.

年齡較小的孩子，當然可以。

And your hometown, has it changed much over the years?

你的家鄉這些年變化大嗎？

Hmm, that's an interesting question.

嗯，這是個有趣的問題。

Yeah, Dunkirk is a very historic town, especially after World War II.

是的，敦刻爾克是一個歷史悠久的小鎮，尤其是在二戰之後。

Just because a lot of the town was left in ruins after the war, and you can still see now to this day old churches and shipwrecks and things like that, which are still standing to this day, and it's pretty cool, but I would say that it's definitely industrialized a lot.

因為戰後小鎮的很多地方都成了廢墟，你現在還能看到古老的教堂和沉船之類的東西，它們至今仍屹立不倒，非常酷，但我要說的是，這裡肯定已經工業化了很多。

There's a lot of modern houses now, you know, more factories, things like that.

現在有很多現代化的房子，你知道的，更多的工廠，諸如此類的東西。

Interesting.

有意思

And what sort of jobs do the people in your hometown do?

你家鄉的人從事什麼樣的工作？

Yeah, so a lot of them are farmers.

是的，所以他們很多人都是農民。

They'll grow a lot of vegetables over the summer, potatoes, and they'll have farm stands and sell off what they grew and things like that.

他們會在夏天種很多蔬菜、洋芋，然後擺農家攤，賣掉他們種的東西，諸如此類。

So a lot of them are farmers.

是以，他們中的很多人都是農民。

I see.

我明白了

Now, moving on to the second part of the speaking test.

現在，進入口語測試的第二部分。

I'm going to give you a topic.

我要給你一個話題。

I'd like to give you a minute or two to talk about it, but before you talk, take a minute, think about what you're going to say, and make some notes, if you wish.

我想給你們一兩分鐘的時間談談這個問題，但在你們談之前，請花一分鐘時間想一想你們要說什麼，如果願意的話，還可以做一些筆記。

Do you understand?

你明白了嗎？

Yes.

是的。

Here's the topic paper.

這是專題文件。

Here's some paper and a pencil.

給你紙和筆

You have a minute to write down some ideas.

給你們一分鐘時間寫下一些想法。

Oh, you want me to go right now?

哦，你想讓我現在就走？

I'm sorry.

我很抱歉

I'm just really nervous.

我真的很緊張。

No, that's fine.

不，沒關係。

You have a minute.

給你一分鐘

Describe a time when you helped someone.

描述一次你幫助別人的經歷。

Okay.

好的

Okay.

好的

Your preparation time is over now.

你們的準備時間已經結束。

Remember, you have one or two minutes for this, so don't worry if I stop you.

記住，你們只有一到兩分鐘的時間，所以別擔心我會阻止你們。

I'll tell you when your time is up.

時間到了我會告訴你的。

Can you start speaking, please?

請開始發言好嗎？

Yeah, so basically there was this one day where I was driving by in the neighborhood after work, and I noticed this lady on the sidewalk freaking out.

是的，基本上是這樣的 有一天，我下班後開車經過附近 我注意到人行道上有位女士嚇壞了

So I still remember this pretty clearly, honestly.

老實說，我現在還記得很清楚。

I go to pull over.

我去停車。

I stopped, asked her what's happening, and she goes, Sir, my cat is stuck in the tree.

我停下來，問她發生了什麼事，她說，先生，我的貓被卡在樹上了。

I know this is very cliche.

我知道這很老套。

I'm sure you've heard of a cat being stuck in a tree all the time, but it happened.

我相信你一定聽說過貓被卡在樹上的事，但它還是發生了。

So I got out of the car, assessed the situation, and there was no way I was reaching that cat.

於是我下了車，評估了一下情況，發現我根本不可能接觸到那隻貓。

It was scared.

它很害怕。

It was up high.

它很高。

No way I could possibly climb it.

我不可能爬上去。

So out of luck, a white van with a ladder on the top, so a work van, was driving by.

不巧的是，一輛頂上架著梯子的白色麵包車開了過來，原來是一輛工作車。

I waved it down.

我揮手拒絕了。

They pulled over, which was a miracle.

他們停車了，這真是個奇蹟。

I'm surprised they even pulled over.

我很驚訝他們竟然停車了。

They were like, Oh, my goodness.

他們說："哦，我的天哪。

Yeah, you can totally use our ladder.

是啊，你完全可以用我們的梯子。

So I grabbed the ladder off the truck, propped it against the tree, climbed up the ladder, grabbed the cat, and I'm telling you, when this cat saw me and I put my hands on it, this thing freaked out.

於是我從卡車上拿起梯子，把梯子靠在樹上，爬上梯子，抓住貓，我告訴你，當這隻貓看到我，我把手放在它身上時，這東西嚇壞了。

It scratched me up and down my arms.

它在我的胳膊上上下下地抓撓。

It tried biting me.

它試圖咬我。

It was just freaking out.

它只是嚇壞了。

I wasn't mad at it, but it hurt.

我並不生氣，但很傷心。

It hurt pretty bad.

疼得厲害

Grabbed this cat, took it down the tree.

抓住這隻貓，把它從樹上抱下來。

I handed it to the lady.

我把它遞給了那位女士。

Oh, my gosh.

哦，我的天哪。

Thank you.

謝謝。

She was very thankful for the help.

她非常感謝這些幫助。

Yeah, honestly, it was just heartwarming, to be honest.

是啊，老實說，真的很感人。

I think that's why I still remember it, you know?

我想這就是為什麼我還記得它，你知道嗎？

Wow, that's a wonderful story.

哇，真是個精彩的故事。

Did you manage to even eat some nice food that night?

那天晚上你吃得好嗎？

I went home with my friends and told them about it at dinner.

我和朋友們一起回家，並在晚餐時告訴了他們這件事。

Yeah, I definitely ate pretty well.

是啊，我肯定吃得很好。

Okay, now before we start the third part, can I have your papers and pencil back, please?

好了，在我們開始第三部分之前 能把你的紙和筆還給我嗎？

Yeah, sure.

是的，當然。

Okay, now in this third part.

好了，現在是第三部分。

Sure.

當然。

I'll first ask you some questions regarding helping others.

我先問你幾個關於幫助他人的問題。

Do people who live in small towns and villages help other people more than those in the city?

生活在小城鎮和鄉村的人比生活在城市的人更樂於助人嗎？

Yes.

是的。

Probably because when you're in a smaller village, you kind of know everyone, and they kind of know you, in a sense.

可能是因為當你在一個較小的村莊裡時，你認識每個人，從某種意義上說，他們也認識你。

You could go to the store, and you probably see, after going to the store ten times, you've probably seen a good 60% of the population of the town, right?

你可以去商店買東西，你可能會看到，在去商店買東西十次之後，你可能已經看到了鎮上60%的人口，對嗎？

You know someone, they know someone else, and then it's just kind of a small loop because there's not many people, right?

你認識一個人，他又認識另一個人，然後就形成了一個小循環，因為人並不多，對吧？

You could walk by your neighbor's house and see them leaving to go to the store, right?

你可以在路過鄰居家時看到他們出門去買東西，對嗎？

You can ask them, hey, can you bring me some eggs when you're at the store and bring it back?

你可以問他們，嘿，你去商店的時候能給我帶點雞蛋回來嗎？

Sure.

當然。

You know, they'll come back, bring you some eggs.

你知道，他們會回來，給你帶些雞蛋。

It's kind of like that close friend's neighbor idea, I guess you could say, behind it.

這有點像 "親密朋友的鄰居 "的想法，我想你可以說，這就是背後的原因。

Everyone knows everyone.

每個人都認識每個人。

You know, very nice, kind, helping people.

你知道，他們都是非常和藹可親、樂於助人的人。

But with the city, you don't really know anyone.

但在城市裡，你誰都不認識。

There's so many people that no one really cares about you, you know?

有這麼多人，沒有人真正關心你，你知道嗎？

You'll never see anyone, half the people there, ever again.

你再也不會見到任何人，包括那裡一半的人。

Yeah, I really think that's why, to be honest with you.

是的，老實說，我真的覺得這就是原因。

Just there's less people, right?

只是人少了，對吧？

You can talk to them.

你可以和他們談談。

I see.

我明白了

Do you believe that the salaries for the jobs that involve helping others are generally too low?

您是否認為涉及幫助他人的工作的薪酬普遍過低？

Definitely, definitely.

當然，當然。

I mean, look at celebrities, right?

我的意思是，看看名人，對吧？

These guys are making millions a year playing football, you know, singing, whatever.

這些人踢足球、唱歌什麼的，一年能掙幾百萬。

And then there's people who actually go out of their way to help other people, right?

還有一些人真的會不遺餘力地幫助別人，對嗎？

Like firefighters, police, you know, nurses.

比如消防員、警察、護士。

They literally save people's lives every single day.

他們每天都在拯救人們的生命。

And yet these people are being paid kind of the least, if you think of it, compared to the celebrities.

然而，與那些名人相比，這些人的收入卻是最低的。

So yeah, I would definitely, definitely say that these people are definitely underpaid, not paid what they should be at least.

所以是的，我肯定會說，這些人的工資肯定是低了，至少沒有得到他們應該得到的工資。

I agree.

我同意。

Now, tell me why you think some people don't want to help others.

現在，告訴我為什麼你認為有些人不想幫助別人。

You know, personally, I think a lot of people just don't want to get involved, right?

你知道，就我個人而言，我認為很多人只是不想參與進來，對嗎？

Like, for example, you'll see a car accident on the side of the road and you'll see it happening.

比如，你會在路邊看到一場車禍，你會看到它的發生。

But instead of stopping to help, a lot of people will just call 911 and that's it.

但很多人不會停下來幫忙，而是撥打 911，僅此而已。

They'll let them handle it.

他們會讓他們處理的。

I feel like they just don't want to be bothered or bother anyone else and interfere in a way.

我覺得他們只是不想被打擾，也不想打擾別人，在某種程度上干擾了別人。

But then there's also people who are selfish.

但也有自私的人。

So it's a mix of the two.

是以，它是兩者的混合體。

I feel like that's kind of why.

我覺得這就是原因。

Now, let's talk about communities.

現在，讓我們來談談社區。

Which people usually need the most support in a community?

在社區中，哪些人通常最需要支持？

Definitely children with special needs and disabilities and things like that.

肯定是有特殊需要的兒童和殘疾兒童之類的。

Along with that, it's definitely old people in general.

與此同時，肯定還有一般的老人。

Just because a lot of them have Alzheimer's and other diseases where they can't really function at a normal rate, I would say.

我想說的是，他們中的很多人都患有阿爾茨海默氏症和其他疾病，無法正常工作。

And then on top of it, there's homeless people and people like that that really can't provide for themselves.

除此之外，還有無家可歸的人，以及像他們這樣真正無法養活自己的人。

And who do you think should pay for the services that the people in the community use?

你認為誰應該為社區居民使用的服務付費？

Honestly, I think it depends on what, right?

老實說，我覺得這取決於什麼，對吧？

Like a library or a park, right?

比如圖書館或公園，對嗎？

That should be kind of like a one-time membership thing per year.

這應該算是每年一次性的會員資格。

If you're going to use it, you pay for it, right?

如果要使用，就得付錢，對吧？

It's kind of that sort of deal.

就是那種交易。

But if it comes to medical or something, I feel like that should be government funded.

但如果涉及到醫療什麼的，我覺得應該由政府資助。

They kind of take care of it through taxes, I'd say.

我得說，他們通過稅收來解決這個問題。

That's all good.

這一切都很好。

That's the end of this speaking test.

本次口語測試到此結束。

Thank you.

謝謝。

Thank you.

謝謝。