Elon Musk has directly aided Russia and the uh the basically targets that the Ukrainians were aiming to hit with these drones that have directly caused the deaths of Ukrainian citizens and Children.

埃隆-馬斯克直接幫助俄羅斯和烏克蘭人用無人機打擊的目標，這些無人機直接造成了烏克蘭公民和兒童的死亡。

Uh Elon Musk facing criticism after he ordered engineers to turn off starlink his satellite communication network to prevent an attack by Ukrainian forces on the Russian Navy.

埃隆-馬斯克（Elon Musk）在命令工程師關閉星鏈衛星通信網絡以防止烏克蘭軍隊攻擊俄羅斯海軍之後，遭到了責備。

Well, Chris Stoke Walker is a text journalist often joins me at a for her regular Musk watch uh and joins me now.

克里斯-斯托克-沃克（Chris Stoke Walker）是一名文字記者，她經常與我一起觀看馬斯克的節目。

Hi, Chris.

嗨，克里斯。

Hi.

你好。

Um So explain um what's what's going on there, a situation where sort of action inaction is also action.

那麼，請解釋一下這是怎麼回事？

He says he doesn't want to be involved in the war but, but anything he does is sort of playing into that.

他說他不想捲入戰爭，但他做的任何事都是在為戰爭做貢獻。

Yeah, and and critics of Elon Musk and indeed the Ukrainian government and adviser to President Sonsy has come out and said that by taking this action, Elon Musk has directly aided Russia and the uh the basically targets that the Ukrainians were aiming to hit with these drones um who have directly caused the deaths of Ukrainian citizens and Children.

是的，埃隆-馬斯克的批評者以及烏克蘭政府和宋西總統的顧問都站出來說，通過採取這一行動，埃隆-馬斯克直接幫助了俄羅斯和烏克蘭人用無人機打擊的目標。

So this is um a a bit of uh an excerpt from a book coming out about Elon Musk, uh by a tech journalist called Walter Isaacson, which alleges that, um Musk essentially pulled the plug on Starlink, which is a, a satellite internet connection that has been used by the Ukrainians after the Russians tried to sabotage existing connections, traditional ways of connecting to the internet, um, pulled the plug on Starlink because he was worried that they were about to launch an attack against the Russians that could have a relatively significant impact in terms of um you know, Vladimir Putin trying to, I guess, launch potentially nuclear weapons against it.

所以這是一個有點呃摘錄 從一本書出來 關於埃隆・馬斯克， 呃由技術記者 所謂沃爾特・艾薩克森，傳統的方式連接到互聯網， 嗯，拔掉插頭的星鏈 因為他擔心，他們即將推出 針對俄羅斯的攻擊

He said, um confirming a little bit of the report on on Twitter overnight that if he had agreed to the request of the Ukrainians, then um his company would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.

他說，如果他同意了烏克蘭人的要求，那麼他的公司將明確成為戰爭和衝突升級的主要同謀。

But for those that don't like mosque, it is yet another thing of him backing the Russians rather than Ukrainians.

但對於那些不喜歡清真寺的人來說，這是他支持俄羅斯人而不是烏克蘭人的又一件事。

And I suppose this is just another reminder that perhaps he hasn't always totally thought through the full extent the consequences of his actions that if you build a, you know, if you take on a, a social media network that comes with plus minus, if you build a satellite network that is going to be used by military, then you're gonna find that network at the center of conflict.

我想這只是再次提醒我們，也許他還沒有完全想清楚他的行為會帶來什麼樣的後果，如果你建立了一個，你知道，如果你建立了一個社交媒體網絡，如果你建立了一個會被軍方使用的衛星網絡，那麼你就會發現這個網絡處於衝突的中心。

Yeah.

是啊

And this is the thing that he does traditionally, we, we may remember the situation that he had with Vernon Unsworth at the time of um the Thai Children football team being caught in a cave um several years ago where he decides to go gung ho into that situation to build a submarine and then cause a whole load of ripple effects that he had never thought through that in that instance, ended up with him um being taken to court for a defamation case that he eventually won.

這就是他的傳統，我們可能還記得幾年前他與弗農-恩斯沃斯（Vernon Unsworth）在泰國兒童足球隊被困山洞時的情況，他決定在這種情況下大幹一場，建造一艘潛水艇，然後引起了一系列他從未想過的連鎖反應，在這種情況下，他最終因誹謗案被送上法庭，最終他贏了。

But, um, it, it causes all these issues.

但是，嗯，它會導致所有這些問題。

And I think when we're talking about something like that case, the, the one several years ago of it's less of an issue as the one now where, you know, his actions are essentially directly swaying the impact of what is the major war in Europe and the biggest war that we've had for more than 10 years.

我認為，當我們談論類似的案件時，幾年前的那起案件與現在的那起案件相比，問題要小得多，你知道，他的行為基本上直接左右了歐洲主要戰爭的影響，也是我們十多年來最大的一場戰爭。

Chris, thanks so much for that Chris Stoker Walker tech journalist joining us to, to reflect on Elon Musk, ordering his engineers to turn off starlink his satellite communication network to stop Ukrainian forces, attacking the Russian Navy.

克里斯，非常感謝你的報道，克里斯-斯托克-沃克（Chris Stoker Walker）科技記者加入我們的報道，對埃隆-馬斯克（Elon Musk）命令他的工程師關閉星鏈（starlink）衛星通信網絡以阻止烏克蘭軍隊攻擊俄羅斯海軍一事進行反思。