字幕列表 影片播放 列印英文字幕 And break the law throughout his life since he was a young man. And the way, of course, has been a constant tactic since he was taught the basics of how to break the law and evade the law by his lawyer, Roy Cohn. But I think we need to cut to the chase here about what all of these proceedings are about. They are about a criminal president of the United States who attempted a coup, who tried to take over the legitimate functions of government by staging a coup so that his lawfully elected successor could not take office. What we have Bob and I wrote in the 50th anniversary edition of All the President's Men, a new forward, largely about the criminal president, Richard Nixon, and the criminal president, Donald Trump. And the greatest danger is obviously from Trump. What is he? He is the first seditious president in the history of the United States, a president who attempted to foment an insurrection to stop the legitimate transfer of power and functioning of the United States government. Listen, to what Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, said on that day after January six, that only one person was morally and practically responsible for this insurrection. Donald Trump. So let's keep our eye on the facts, as Bob said, and what it's about. The Repub lican party, which historically has done the right thing in the moment of Joe McCarthy, the great Demagog Big Demagog did the right thing in Watergate, forced Richard Nixon from office. Are they going to allow an insurrectionist seditious president to carry our democracy into a terrible, horrible place where it has never gone? I want to play a clip here from the former president's new attorney, John Lauro. He appeared on Fox News today. Here's what he said about what the former presidents still presidents at the time Donald Trump wanted after the 2020 election. The only thing that President Trump asked is a pause in the counting. So those seven contested states could either reordered or recertify I've never heard of anyone get indicted for asking for an audit. What what President Trump was looking for was the truth was to find out exactly what happened in those seven contested states. That's just not criminal. Bobby, you've extensively reported, instead of ostensibly reported on this issue and all those conversations that the former president is what, you know, match what you just heard. Well well, Karl is absolutely right. This was a coup and there is a coup memo that was written literally by one of Trump's attorneys, John Eastman, the famous Eastman memo, Jame. One of your colleagues, Jamie Gangel, got it and ran it on CNN and in it at the Eastman says over seven states with contested electors, Mike Lee, the Republican senator from Utah, a big Trump supporter, started looking into this and discovered there were absolutely zero states with contested electors. He was quite upset about this. Senator Lee actually sent me the coup memo saying it is unsupported Senator Lee, when the certification of Biden came, the finally came after January 6th, went to the Senate floor and said there's nothing to this. Lindsey Graham said nothing to it at all. These are Trump supporters who backed Trump and investigated and found nothing. And to your point, it'll be interesting to see if they can make this case in a court of law that they make publicly where they're not under oath as Mr. Law. The audits were done. The recounts were done. All of that was done. All the court challenges were done. Yes, the president had those rights to make those case. They were all done by January 6th, and he had lost them all. To that point, Carl, as we look forward. The former president on the radio earlier this week suggested that, quote, A passionate group of voters would be more dangerous than in 20, 20 if he were imprisoned during the election. What do you make of that? I make of that that once again, he's threatening that his people are going to go into the streets and riot and hurt people and there's going to be a great movement that in his favor that is going to be violent and the threat of violence is somehow going to help him in the courts etc. etc.. Let's just mention Mike Pence for one minute and this coup attempt. Listen to what Mike Pence was told by the president of the United States to stop the certification of the duly elected electors to the Electoral College meeting on January 6th. That indeed the president of the United States, clear, as can be telling the vice president, break the law. Let's not have a lawful transfer of power. We have to look at forget Mr. Law there for a minute. We have to look at the unprecedented nature of a president of the United States fomenting insurrection. The overthrow of legitimate government in this country never happened in the White House before. That's what this is about. And Republicans, above all, should be terrified of allowing this president to get away with it. And yet the overwhelming majority are quite silent. Even as even if you support Trump, you think about the fact that all of this is going to play out in the middle of a presidential campaign. Which Trump thinks might be good for him. We'll see as it plays out. Gentlemen, we'll continue this conversation in the weeks and months ahead, of course. Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein, thank you so much.
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