but he was still working hard.

但他仍在努力工作。

This man slept at the gym so he could wake up the next morning

這個人在健身房睡了一覺，以便第二天早上能醒過來

and continue training.

並繼續訓練。

And with that type of work ethic,

而且有這種工作熱情。

you can make it anywhere.

你可以在任何地方製作。

[THEME MUSIC]

[主題音樂] [主題音樂]

Hello, everyone.

大家好。

I'm Uche Agada.

我是烏切-阿加達。

I play Giannis Antetokounmpo in the Disney+ Original movie,

我在迪斯尼+原創電影中扮演吉安尼斯-安特託孔波。

"Rise."

"起來。"

And I'm Ral Agada, the real-life brother of Uche,

而我是拉爾-阿加達，烏切的現實生活中的兄弟。

and I play Thanasis Antetokounmpo,

而我扮演Thanasis Antetokounmpo。

the second eldest brother the Antetokounmpo family,

安特託昆博家族的第二長兄。

in "Rise."

在 "崛起"。

Thanks for joining me here on "Disney+ Voices"

感謝你加入我的 "迪士尼+聲音 "節目。

to discuss the power of perseverance

討論堅韌不拔的力量

and the universal impact sports narratives

以及體育敘事的普遍影響

have on their viewers.

對他們的觀眾有影響。

Excited to be here, man.

很高興來到這裡，夥計。

There's no doubt that Thanasis is proud of his brother's

毫無疑問，Thanasis為他的兄弟感到驕傲。

accomplishments. Rather than me bragging

成績。與其說我在吹噓

about you, which I can,

關於你，我可以。

you should tell the audience about your journey.

你應該向觀眾講述你的旅程。

How'd you land the role?

你是如何得到這個角色的？

And what did you learn?

你又學到了什麼？

Well, I mean, I landed this role just off of Twitter.

好吧，我的意思是，我是靠著推特才找到這個角色的。

Giannis put out a tweet saying that

吉安尼斯發了一條推特說

he's looking for people to play him and his

他正在找人扮演他和他的朋友。

brothers in a Disney+ movie.

迪斯尼+電影中的兄弟。

And I said, why not?

我說，為什麼不呢？

Let me go for it.

讓我去爭取吧。

I sent in a self tape.

我送來了一盤自帶的錄音帶。

And a few months later, I got a callback,

而幾個月後，我得到了一個回電。

and here we are today.

而我們今天就在這裡。

With this being my very first movie, it's been a blast.

由於這是我的第一部電影，它是一個爆炸性的事件。

So what about you, Ral?

那麼你呢，Ral？

How'd it happen for you?

你是怎麼做到的？

And what'd you learn?

那你學到了什麼？

Man, you already know how it happened for me.

夥計，你已經知道我的情況如何了。

You threw me the alley, so to speak.

可以這麼說，你把我扔在了巷子裡。

You called me up, said, "Hey, man, they

你打電話給我，說，"嘿，夥計，他們

asked me if I had any siblings that want to play

問我是否有兄弟姐妹想玩？

the older brother, Thanasis."

哥哥，塔納西"。

And I was like, "What?"

我當時想，"什麼？"

So I went through the process, and then I eventually got cast.

所以我經歷了這個過程，然後我最終被選中。

They told me I'm going to Greece to shoot

他們告訴我，我將去希臘拍攝

a movie with my brother.

和我哥哥一起看電影。

It was a great learning experience being

這是一個很好的學習經驗，因為

on set for the first time.

第一次在片場。

For me, it was weird.

對我來說，這很奇怪。

It was like-- like, the very first time

這就像--就像，第一次

we walked on to set, like, when we were walking there,

我們走在佈景上，就像，當我們走在那裡。

it was nervous.

它很緊張。

But, like, as soon as we got to the actual set,

但是，就像，當我們一到真正的佈景時。

and you see all the people, I don't know, for some reason,

而你看到所有的人，我不知道，出於某種原因。

that all went away.

這一切都消失了。

The most nerve-wracking scene for me

最令我緊張的一幕

was probably the injury scene.

可能是受傷的現場。

I'm just yelling and screaming.

我只是在大喊大叫。

[LAUGHS]

[笑聲]

All of the sudden, you stop with a straight face.

突然間，你直截了當地停下來。

That good? That good?

這麼好？這麼好？

What were some of the challenges

有哪些挑戰？

you faced while filming in Greece?

你在希臘拍戲時面臨的問題是什麼？

How did you lock in your Afro-Greek accent

你是如何鎖定你的非洲-希臘口音的？

to bring this role to life?

把這個角色帶入生活？

We worked with a dialect coach.

我們與一位方言教練合作。

We worked for months, the entire time we were shooting

我們工作了幾個月，在整個拍攝過程中

and even a couple of months before we

甚至在幾個月前，我們

even started shooting.

甚至開始拍攝。

In the beginning, he said to me, "Uche, one day,

開始時，他對我說："烏切，有一天。

you'll be able to just get into this accent.

你就可以直接進入這個口音了。

It'll feel very natural."

這將感覺非常自然。"

I didn't believe him.

我不相信他。

But with repetition, I got to that point.

但隨著重複，我到了這一點。

Yeah, I definitely didn't believe him either,

是的，我也絕對不相信他。

but he was right.

但他是對的。

It was a lot of hard work, a lot of repetition,

那是很多艱苦的工作，很多重複的工作。

a lot of feeling like I don't know how I'm going to do this,

很多人覺得我不知道我要怎麼做。

but eventually figuring it out, right?

但最終想通了，對嗎？

And I'd say that just the experience of walking

我想說的是，僅僅是行走的經驗

the streets in Athens for the first time,

第一次在雅典的街道上出現。

looking at the buildings and seeing

看著這些建築，看到

how different it is from America, that

它與美國有多大不同，那

was pretty incredible.

是相當不可思議的。

It was the same way that Giannis and Thanasis

這也是吉安尼斯和塔納西斯的方式

saw New York in the movie was the same way I think Ral

在電影中看到的紐約也是如此，我想Ral

and I saw Athens for the first time.

我第一次看到雅典。

People in Greece, they love, they love this family.

希臘的人們，他們愛，他們愛這個家庭。

And--

而且 --

(LAUGHING) Yeah.

(笑) 是的。

--knowing that made it even more fun creating or just

--知道這使得創作更加有趣，或者只是

filming it because we knew how important it was to the people

拍攝它是因為我們知道它對人民是多麼重要。

who actually lived there.

誰真正住在那裡。

We were in one of the stores.

我們當時在其中一家商店裡。

And we weren't shooting that day,

而我們那天並沒有拍攝。

but the younger versions of us were shooting in one

但我們的年輕版本是在一個地方拍攝。

of the-- in Monastiraki Square.

的--在莫納斯提拉基廣場。

And the lady at the store was like, "Yo,

店裡的女士就說，"喲。

they shut down the place over there.

他們關閉了那邊的地方。

They're filming a movie about the Antetokounmpos."

他們正在拍攝一部關於安特託昆博的電影。"

And we were like, "Really, they are?"

我們想，"真的，他們是？"

Because you could see the excitement when she said that.

因為你可以看到她說這話時的興奮。

It was just incredible just knowing what it means to them.

僅僅知道這對他們意味著什麼，就覺得不可思議。

They see someone who grew up in Greece, went to America,

他們看到一個在希臘長大的人，去了美國。

and then now look at this man.

然後現在看看這個人。

This man is doing things.

這個人正在做事情。

Honestly, I think the fact that we filmed on location

老實說，我認為我們在現場拍攝的事實是

in the real places that the brothers grew up and played

在兄弟倆成長和玩耍的真實地方

basketball in, I feel like it makes the film

籃球在，我覺得這讓電影

so much more authentic.

所以更加真實。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Yeah.

是的。

How did it feel working with our director, Akin Omotoso?

與我們的導演Akin Omotoso合作的感覺如何？

With his close connection with Nigeria,

隨著他與尼日利亞的密切聯繫。

did it help tell this story authentically?

它是否有助於真實地講述這個故事？

Everything felt very homey in a way.

在某種程度上，一切都感覺很有家的味道。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

I remember Akin, he was--

我記得阿金，他是 --

he used to say, we're going to make the most Nigerian

他曾經說過，我們要做最多的尼日利亞人。

Greek film you'll ever see.

你會看到的希臘電影。

And he definitely delivered on that.

而他絕對做到了這一點。

He knew what he was doing.

他知道自己在做什麼。

I feel like representation is important in all aspects.

我覺得代表性在各方面都很重要。

This is a story about Nigerians.

這是一個關於尼日利亞人的故事。

We got a whole Nigerian cast.

我們有整個尼日利亞的演員。

Our director is Nigerian.

我們的主任是尼日利亞人。

So it's a very authentic way to tell the story instead

是以，這是一種非常真實的方式來講述這個故事。

of having people who don't really, truly understand

有一些人並不真正、真正瞭解

this story tell this story.

這個故事講述這個故事。

And they know what they're trying to create.

而且他們知道自己要創造的是什麼。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

And they-- it's great to have those people there

他們......有這些人在那裡真是太好了。

because they understand it.

因為他們理解它。

Yeah, they know the story because they've lived

是的，他們知道這個故事，因為他們經歷過

through it just like them.

通過它，就像他們一樣。

Exactly.

正是如此。

RAL AGADA: Yeah.

RAL AGADA：是的。

It's very--

這是非常 --

I'm very blessed for it to be that way because it

我很慶幸它能成為這樣的人，因為它

could have been different.

可能會有所不同。

But I'm glad that it-- that they chose this route.

但我很高興，他們選擇了這條路線。

And we got to immerse ourselves

而且我們可以沉浸在自己的世界裡

more in our Nigerian culture.

在我們的尼日利亞文化中更多。

Absolutely.

絕對的。

It was an amazing experience.

這是一次了不起的經歷。

I don't think it's in the movie,

我不認為電影裡有這個情節。

but there's a scene where we're eating.

但有一個場景，我們正在吃飯。

We saw-- we had a beautiful view.

我們看到--我們有一個美麗的景色。

We had actual Nigerian food.

我們有真正的尼日利亞食物。

Yeah, the fufu, some jollof rice.

是的，fufu，一些jollof米。

Was there some pounded yam?

是否有一些搗碎的山藥？

Oh, my goodness.

哦，我的天啊。

It was fantastic.

這真是太棒了。

What was it like to portray the real-life people who have

扮演現實生活中的人是什麼感覺？

gone through such hardships?

經歷了這樣的艱難困苦？

And what did you learn?

你又學到了什麼？

We've known who these guys were for years, years

我們知道這些人是誰已經很多年了，很多年了

prior to this even happening.

在這種情況發生之前。

I remember just watching over the years how they pronounced

我記得這些年來只是看著他們是如何發音的

his last name whenever--

他姓什麼就...

I remember there was a--

我記得有一個...

I think it was his rookie season.

我認為這是他的新秀賽季。

He shoots the three.

他射中了三分球。

The guy-- he's in Miami.

這傢伙--他在邁阿密。

The guy says, Aretokumbu for three.

那人說，阿雷託昆布為三。

Way off.

路過。

[LAUGHS]

[笑聲]

When we were watching the premiere--

當我們在看首映時--

we had two premieres-- and knowing that Giannis.

我們有兩個首映式--而且知道吉安尼斯。

the best player in the world, is watching you,

世界上最好的球員，正在看著你。

and you're playing basketball on that screen,

而你在那個螢幕上打籃球。

you just really wish that you tightened

你只是真的希望你收緊

up your handle a little bit, even though it's not bad.

你的手柄有點問題，儘管它並不壞。

Like, the average person is going to watch and be like, "OK,

就像，一般人看了之後會說，"好吧。

this is great."

這很好。"

But that's not the average basketball player, you know?

但這不是一般的籃球運動員，你知道嗎？

You just wish that you were in the gym for, like, 16

你只是希望你在健身房裡，比如說，16歲的時候

hours a day, just trying to--

每天幾個小時，只是想...

but it is what it is.

但事實就是如此。

Portraying somebody that you were always a fan of,

扮演你一直喜歡的人。

I feel like there's a big responsibility there,

我覺得那裡有一個很大的責任。

especially when it's a story that

特別是當這個故事是一個

was as heartbreaking and tough as theirs was at certain times.

在某些時候，他們的生活就像他們的生活一樣令人心碎和艱難。

It was definitely a big responsibility,

這絕對是一個很大的責任。

but I think we stepped up to the challenge well.

但我認為我們很好地應對了挑戰。

A lot of people look up to Giannis,

很多人都在仰視吉安尼斯。

and I think showing where he came from

我認為顯示他來自哪裡

would also inspire all these people who look up to him.

也會激勵所有這些仰視他的人。

It'll show them that they came from absolutely nothing,

這將向他們表明，他們絕對是白手起家。

and they created what they have now.

而他們創造了現在的局面。

And if he can do it from nothing, no matter

如果他能做到從無到有，無論如何

where you are, as long as you persevere,

只要你堅持下去，你在哪裡都可以。

you can create the same thing as well.

你也可以創建同樣的東西。

I hope that's the-- that's the image that I'm

我希望這就是......這就是我的形象。

hoping to bring to people.

希望能給人們帶來。

I remember when we first started filming,

我記得我們剛開始拍攝的時候。

and I first read the script, I was like, wow,

當我第一次讀到這個劇本時，我就覺得，哇。

I knew that they had humble beginnings,

我知道他們的起點很低。

but I didn't realize just how difficult things were for them.

但我沒有意識到事情對他們來說是多麼困難。

I knew that they were immigrants from Greece.

我知道他們是來自希臘的移民。

I didn't know that when they were living in Greece,

他們在希臘生活時，我並不知道。

they were undocumented.

他們是無證的。

So that was a big thing to learn for me.

是以，這對我來說是一個重要的學習內容。

And it was hard for them to hide,

而且他們也很難隱藏。

too, because, obviously, they're big-- they're very tall.

也是，因為，很明顯，他們是大的--他們是非常高的。

So that's one thing.

所以這是一件事。

And two, they're Black in Greece,

第二，他們是希臘的黑人。

so it's not easy to blend in.

所以不容易混進去。

Kostas was saying that scene in the movie

科斯塔斯在說電影中的那個場景

where he runs from the police--

他在那裡逃避警察 --

they all run from the police-- he said

他們都在逃避警察 -- 他說

that happened more than once.

這種情況不止一次發生。

That happened multiple times.

這發生了多次。

To actually go through that, I can't even

要真正經歷這些，我甚至不能

imagine what that was like.

想象一下那是什麼樣子。

Thanasis, Giannis, Kostas, and Alex have achieved so much.

塔納西斯、吉安尼斯、科斯塔斯和亞歷克斯已經取得了如此多的成就。

And with each triumph comes more and more inspiration.

而每次勝利都會帶來越來越多的靈感。

What impact do you hope this sports narrative

你希望這個體育敘事有什麼影響？

will have on the audiences?

會對觀眾產生什麼影響？

A few things, honestly.

老實說，有幾件事。

Not only the importance of perseverance and working hard

不僅是堅持不懈和努力工作的重要性

and sticking with your family, but also,

和堅持你的家庭，但也。

like, showing the immigrant side of the story sometimes.

像，有時顯示移民的一面。

We don't get to see that part of the story as much,

我們沒有機會看到這一部分的故事。

but I'm glad that we got to show it.

但我很高興我們能展示它。

They have done so much, man.

他們已經做了這麼多，夥計。

The three of them are NBA champions.

他們三人是NBA的冠軍。

They made NBA history with that.

他們是以創造了NBA歷史。

And honestly, it just really shows

說實話，這真的表明

that no matter where you come from, no matter what you look

無論你來自哪裡，無論你看起來如何

like, you keep on persevering through those hardships,

像，你一直堅持不懈地克服這些困難。

and eventually you can have whatever you want.

而最終你可以擁有你想要的任何東西。

Especially when you have your family by your side like that,

特別是當你有你的家人在你身邊這樣的時候。

and they're all pushing you and rooting for you,

而且他們都在推動你，為你加油。

it's hard to feel alone.

很難感到孤獨。

Yeah, no one knows that better than us.

是的，沒有人比我們更清楚這一點。

[LAUGHS]

[笑聲]

I feel like the immigrant story is one that's not really

我覺得移民的故事是一個並不真正的

told very much in, not just the U.S., just

不僅僅是美國，在很多地方都有這樣的說法。

in general, across media and whatnot.

在一般情況下，跨媒體和什麼的。

Usually when you hear it, it's, oh, they're

通常，當你聽到它時，它是，哦，他們是

coming to take our jobs.

來搶奪我們的工作。

They're-- it's all of this negative.

他們......都是這些負面的東西。

But it's not always the case.

但情況並非總是如此。

Sometimes it's just bad circumstances that led somebody