Get busy in december 2019.

在2019年12月開始忙碌。

Longtime Washington post journalist bob Woodward asked then President donald trump to explain his strategic thinking in regards to his taunts on twitter aimed at north korean leader kim jong un Had it all been a carefully calibrated effort to get him to the bargaining table?

華盛頓郵報》的長期記者鮑勃-伍德沃德要求當時的總統唐納德-特朗普解釋他在推特上針對北韓領導人金正恩的嘲諷的戰略思想，這一切是否是為了讓他到談判桌上來而精心校準的努力？

Asked Woodward.

問道："伍德沃德。

No, no it was designed for whatever reason, it was designed who knows trump, responded, adding instinctively.

不，不，它的設計是什麼原因，它的設計是誰知道王牌，迴應，本能地添加。

Let's talk instinct okay, because it's really about you don't know what's going to happen.

讓我們談談本能好嗎，因為這真的是關於你不知道會發生什麼。

But it was very rough rhetoric.

但這是非常粗糙的言辭。

The roughest trump then told the staff to show Woodward his photos with kim at the demilitarized zone that divides north and south Korea.

最粗暴的特朗普隨後告訴工作人員，讓伍德沃德看他與金正日在劃分南北北韓的非軍事區的照片。

That's the line right trump told Woodward, then I walked over the line.

這是線的權利特朗普告訴伍德沃德，然後我走過了線。

Pretty cool, you know.

很酷，你知道。

Pretty cool.

相當酷。

Right?

對嗎？

Yeah.

是的。

Pretty cool.

相當酷。

That interaction is part of a forthcoming audio book from Woodward that CNN obtained called the trump tapes which contains 20 interviews that Woodward conducted with trump from 2016 through 2020.

這一互動是CNN獲得的伍德沃德即將出版的一本名為《特朗普錄音帶》的音頻書的一部分，其中包含伍德沃德從2016年到2020年對特朗普進行的20次採訪。

Let me just pause here for a minute with the potential of starting a conflict with a country that possesses nuclear weapons trump acted based on his gut alone.

讓我在這裡暫停一下，與一個擁有核武器的國家開始衝突的可能性，特朗普僅僅根據他的直覺行事。

There was no short term or long term plan beyond instinct.

除了本能之外，沒有任何短期或長期的計劃。

But he did it anyway with the roughest rhetoric.

但他還是用最粗暴的言辭做了這件事。

So he's got that going for him which is nice.

所以他有這樣的打算，這很好。

This episode offers conclusive evidence that the notion that Trump has been operating on a different and higher strategic plane was always deeply misguided in the immediate aftermath of his 2016 election victory.

這段插曲提供了確鑿的證據，證明特朗普一直在不同的更高的戰略層面上運作的說法，在他2016年大選勝利之後，總是被深深誤導。

And throughout his presidency there were those, most of the Republicans, but more than a few democrats as well who argued that every odd move Trump made was calculated.

在他的整個總統任期內，有一些人，大部分是共和黨人，但也有更多的民主黨人認為，特朗普的每一個奇怪的舉動都是經過精心策劃的。

That even the stuff that looked strange at the time was part of a detailed blueprint that only he could see.

即使是當時看起來很奇怪的東西也是隻有他能看到的詳細藍圖的一部分。

He was playing three dimensional chess.

他在下立體的棋。

The rest of us and especially those of us in the media were still playing checkers.

我們其他人，特別是我們這些媒體人還在玩跳棋。

We just couldn't hope to understand trump's genius.

我們只是無法希望瞭解特朗普的天才。

He was that far ahead of us.

他比我們領先那麼遠。

Now beyond the fact that trump won an election that most people, including most people in his political orbit, expected him to lose.

現在，除了特朗普贏得了一場大多數人，包括他的政治軌道上的大多數人，預計他將失去的選舉。

There's always been scant evidence that he was some sort of strategic mastermind, er puppet master who can make anyone particularly republicans dance just the way he wanted.

一直以來，很少有證據表明他是某種戰略策劃者，呃，木偶大師，可以讓任何人尤其是共和黨人按照他想要的方式跳舞。

In fact there was and is ample evidence to the contrary.

事實上，過去和現在都有充分的證據表明了這一點。

Go back to trump's 1987 book The art of the deal and how he describes his typical day.

回到特朗普1987年出版的《交易的藝術》一書，看看他是如何描述自己的典型一天的。

It goes like this.

它是這樣的。

Most people are surprised by the way I work.

大多數人對我的工作方式感到驚訝。

I play it very loose.

我玩得很放鬆。

I don't carry a briefcase.

我不攜帶公文包。

I try not to schedule too many meetings.

我儘量不安排太多的會議。

I leave my door open.

我的門是開著的。

You can't be imaginative or entrepreneurial if you've got too much structure.

如果你有太多的結構，你就不能有想象力或創業精神。

I prefer to come to work Each day and just see what develops Trump has always been this way he's telling us this, he acts and then reacts to the reaction.

我更喜歡每天來上班，只是看看有什麼發展特朗普一直是這樣，他告訴我們這個，他採取行動，然後對反應做出反應。

He makes, the vast majority of his decisions, not on the available information or even on the guidance of those around him, but by his gut again, Trump was taunting a dictator who has nuclear arms.

他做出的絕大多數決定，不是根據現有的資訊，甚至不是根據他周圍人的指導，而是根據他的直覺再次做出決定，特朗普在嘲弄一個擁有核武器的獨裁者。

For whatever reason, this is not a man who is thinking 10 moves ahead.

不管出於什麼原因，這不是一個提前10步考慮的人。

This is a man who isn't thinking beyond his first move.

這是一個沒有考慮到他的第一招的人。

And that is the point.

而這正是問題所在。

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