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  • Let's get into our conversation with a Los Angeles native and an incredible human being,

    讓我們展開與一位洛杉磯居民以及了不起人類的對談,

  • someone who can speak to this city so much she wrote a real love letter herself to this beautiful place.

    一個非常能夠與這個城市對話的人,程度高到她寫了一封情書給這個美麗的地方。

  • It's Billie Eilish.

    歡迎怪奇比莉。

  • I watched your documentary.

    我看了妳的紀錄片。

  • I've been following you for as long as I can remember.

    我一直都在追蹤你,時間久到我不記得了。

  • And there... there's a moment in your concert when you snapped your ankle and you... you walk off stage and you come out,

    在你的演唱會中有一個時刻,當你折斷腳踝、走下舞臺又返回的時候,

  • and this is one of the reasons why I... I'm so in love with you, is because you say, "Look, I just want to do it a certain way."

    而這也是我愛你的諸多原因之一,因為你直接地說:「聽著,我必須以特定方式做事。」

  • And people don't know how to, usually, be so honest in those moments.

    而人們在那些時刻通常不知道該如何如此地坦承。

  • How do you just say it like it is?

    你怎麼能直言不諱呢?

  • How do you know to do that?

    你怎麼知道要這麼做?

  • That is such an art.

    那是一種高尚的藝術。

  • You know, I've always been very, very strong-willed and honest, which I think is, like, a blessing and a curse.

    我一直都有非常堅定的,也很誠實,而我認為這既是祝福也是詛咒。

  • But the funny thing is that the older I've gotten, the... the less confident I've gotten,

    但有趣的是,我隨著年齡增長而變得更缺乏自信了,

  • and it's... it kind of made me like... almost...

    而這,有點讓我變得⋯⋯

  • 'Cause I watched th⏤ I rewatched the doc, like, a few weeks ago, and it made me cry.

    因為我幾週前重看了紀錄片,那讓我哭了。

  • Because I was thinking how, like, free-spirited I was and how open-minded I was, and then, it's like, the media just, like, tears it away from you.

    因為我想著,我當時是如何地自由奔放、思想開放,然後媒體就硬生生把它們從你身上奪走。

  • And it's, like, it's not fun right now,

    然後感覺就是,現在不有趣了。

  • - ... so, it's, like, I'm trying to⏤ - I know.

    - 所以,我嘗試要—— - 我懂。

  • I know, I'm trying to, like⏤I don't know.

    我知道,我試著想要——我不知道。

  • - But I'm figuring it out. - Believe me, I get it.

    - 但我正在釐清一切。 - 相信我,我懂。

  • I... and I... and I have such faith that you will, because even when you're struggling, you're aware of the struggle.

    我很堅信你可以的,因為儘管你在掙扎,你也很清楚自己的掙扎。

  • You said something that really struck me in the documentary.

    你在紀錄片中說了真切打動了我的話。

  • You... you really have this issue with the word "fans".

    你真的對「粉絲」這個詞很有意見。

  • And I was wondering where that stems from.

    我在想那個想法的根源是什麼。

  • I think that the reason that it was so weird to me was because one moment I was a fan, and then, suddenly, I was looked at as this, like, higher-up suddenly.

    我覺得那對我來說很奇怪的原因是,我前一刻自己也是一個粉絲,然後突然就被視為好像高人一等的人物。

  • Even when I was 14, and it was so weird, because I was like, "I'm not even anyone; I just make music."

    即使在我 14 歲的時候,那也非常奇怪,因為我心想:「我不是什麼人物,我只是想做音樂。」

  • And these kids that I feel like I already know suddenly, like, "Oh, they're Billie's fans, and then there's Billie."

    然後那些我覺得我跟他們很熟悉的孩子們間突然有了「喔,他們是比莉的粉絲,然後那是比莉」的隔閡。

  • And, so, that's why it was so weird to me.

    所以那就是這對我來說如此奇怪的原因。

  • But I think of them as, like, literally my skin, like, part of me, and, like, how I get through stuff, and, you know, they always have my back.

    但我認為它們就像我的皮膚一樣,像我的一部分,不管我如何度過難關,他們總是支持我。

  • And, like, they're fans 'causejust as much as I'm a fan, but that doesn't make them any less than me or anybody else, you know?

    然後他們是粉絲,就如同我也是一個粉絲,但這並不意味著他們比我或任何其他人差,你懂嗎?

  • Now, one of the things that I'm also so in love with you for is your directing.

    你還有一件讓我很愛的事情,也就是你做導演這件事。

  • Why did you know that you would be the one to take control and get your vision across?

    你是怎麼知道你必須是掌控且把你的想法傳達出去的人?

  • I mean, I've always⏤I've... I've always had the ideas already.

    我的意思是,我一直都是已經有那些想法。

  • I just didn't really know that I could do them myself for a while.

    我只有有好一段時間不知道我可以自己做到。

  • But then after awhile, I was just like, "You know what? I want to do this."

    但過了一段時間,我心想:「你知道嗎?我想要做這件事。」

  • Because I think I've realized that this is what I've wanted to do all along, and I can actually

    因為我想我發現了這是我一直都想做的事情,我其實可以——

  • Like, I have to prove myself, and I really had to prove myself, because who's gonna trust a little 15-year-old kid that doesn't have any experience at all?

    我必須得證明自己,真正地證明自己,因為誰會相信一個沒有任何經驗的 15 歲小毛頭?

  • - But I did and it's been like, honestly, the best⏤ - Someone did.

    - 但我做到了,然後真的是最棒的。 - 有人相信了。

  • Yeah. The best decision ever. Ever, ever.

    對啊,有史以來最棒的決定。

  • And kind of like, you knowdo you know Pippi Longstocking?

    有點像⋯⋯你知道長襪子皮皮嗎?(譯註:瑞典童書主角,不依靠大人、不做不想做的事)

  • Yeah.

    知道。

  • Hell, yeah.

    當然知道。

  • SheThe Go-Go's "Beauty and the Beat" album and Pippi Longstocking were, like, these two things that collided in my world when I was a little girl right here in Los Angeles.

    在我還是個在洛杉磯生活的小女孩時,加油合唱團的《Beauty and the Beat》專輯和長襪子皮皮是在我世界造成衝撞的兩件事。

  • And they both showed me that, like, I could do anything; it didn't matter that I was a girl.

    他們都讓我看到,我可以做到任何事情,我是女孩子是沒關係的。

  • And I didn't have to become a man or a man-hater.

    我不需要成為男人或是厭男者。

  • I could be all things girl, but I could do anything.

    我可以當個徹底的小女孩,但我什麼都可以做到。

  • - Yeah. - And... um...

    - 是的。 - 然後,恩⋯⋯

  • I loved how personal you were about the marketing and putting out of your album.

    我也很喜歡你把行銷和推出專輯變得如此私人。

  • How are you feeling about this album being out there now?

    現在專輯上市了,你的感覺如何?

  • How does it feel?

    感覺怎麼樣?

  • It feels good.

    這感覺很好。

  • I was very, very, very nervous, uh, and very worried and anxious.

    我當時非常、非常、非常緊張也非常擔心和焦慮。

  • 'Cause also, you know, sophomore album is likehas more pressure than the first one, because... especially if people really liked the first one.

    因為你知道的,第二張專輯的壓力通常比第一張的壓力大,因爲——尤其當人們很喜歡第一張時。

  • And it's my favorite thing in the world, and I have so much trust and love shoved into this project.

    那是我全世界最喜歡的事情,我在這個專案中投注了很多信念與愛。

  • And I... I mean, it's terrifying that it's out in the world; it's, likecouldn't be scarier to me.

    我是說,它現在在市面上是很恐怖的,我害怕極了。

  • But I'm also very happy and pleased and hope that, you know, people can actually listen to the lyrics and actually understand them and listen to me.

    但我也非常高興、滿意,也希望人們可以聽歌詞然後真的了解它們,然後聽我的聲音。

  • And contribute it to their own life and, like, put it in their own situations, and, like...

    然後把一切套入自己的生活,放在自己的情境中⋯⋯

  • I hope that it helps people and, like, just makes themmake a difference in their life and change something in their life that's been bothering them or something, 'cause that's what music is for.

    我希望它可以幫到人,讓他們——在他們的人生中有影響,然後改變他們生活中讓他們困擾的事情,因為那就是音樂的目的。

  • Well, I love you, and I will be going to bed tonightas I usually doplaying the PJ party video in my head and usually I'm there with you girls.

    我愛你,我今晚會一如往常地在上床睡覺時,在腦中播放睡衣派對的影片,然後我就好像跟你們在一起一樣。

  • - Like... - Oh, my God, can we just...

    - 就像⋯⋯ - 我的天啊,我們可以⋯⋯

  • Can we just be best friends, please?

    我們可以做最好的朋友嗎,拜託?

  • I would love it.

    我很願意。

  • I love you so much; this is an insanely, like, surreal interview.

    我很愛你,這也是完全超現實的訪問。

  • I don't know why it's a big deal for you because it's an insanely enormous deal for me and you're Drew Barrymore so shut up.

    我不知道為什麼這對你來說見了不起的事,因為這對我來說是個大事,畢竟你是茱兒·芭莉摩,所以閉嘴吧!

  • Thank you guys so much.

    太感謝你們了。

  • Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

    謝謝、謝謝、謝謝你。

  • Her new album "Happier Than Ever" is available now

    她的新專輯《怪樂的不得了》已經上市,

  • and accompanied by her cinematic concert experience, "Happier Than Ever: A Love Letter to Los Angeles", which is available on Disney+.

    並伴隨著她電影般的演唱會經驗,《Happier than Ever:給洛杉磯的情書》可以在迪士尼+ 上收看。

  • I'm gonna say something directly to Billie.

    我要直接對 Billie 說些什麼。

  • You deserve to be happier than ever.

    你值得比以前更快樂。

  • It is a privilege to watch you on your journey.

    看著你的旅程,我感到很榮幸。

  • You bring tears to my eyes at how much I love you.

    你讓我為我對你的愛而流淚。

  • Thank you for allowing me to have a great conversation with you.

    謝謝你允許我和你進行一場精彩的對話。

Let's get into our conversation with a Los Angeles native and an incredible human being,

讓我們展開與一位洛杉磯居民以及了不起人類的對談,

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