I didn't believe in myself as a filmmaker the way I do now now I realize what is really valuable 35 years later.

我當時沒有像現在這樣相信自己是一個電影人，現在我意識到35年後什麼才是真正有價值的。

What is the metaphor that you're making with this different version of the fight?

你用這種不同版本的戰鬥來做的隱喻是什麼？

The Warrior is a warrior to the very end and though he may be defeated, he won't go quietly into that good night.

勇士是一個戰鬥到底的戰士，儘管他可能被打敗，但他不會安靜地進入那個美好的夜晚。

I just think you'd be great for him.

我只是覺得你對他來說是很好的。

The rally.

集會。

So it is a complete slaughter.

是以，這是一場徹底的屠殺。

Then you go off Apollo.

然後你就離開阿波羅。

Creed did go down fighting.

克里德確實在戰鬥中倒下了。

He didn't go down being slut and now it is the Russians just standing there.

他沒有下去做蕩婦，現在是俄羅斯人只是站在那裡。

The Russian trying to intimidate cream and the right washing negativity creep.

俄羅斯人試圖恐嚇奶油，而右派的消極情緒也在悄悄蔓延。

Come on, put it together before Rocky could have stopped the fight and didn't this time he's dropping the towel, but that punch hits at the same time.

來吧，把它放在一起之前，洛基可以停止戰鬥，沒有這次他放下了毛巾，但那一拳同時擊中。

So as the towel drops, everything drops, his life drops.

是以，隨著毛巾的掉落，一切都在掉落，他的生命也在掉落。

He's just a second late.

他只是晚了一秒鐘。

Oh, Mhm Yeah.

哦，嗯，是的。

Mhm Uh huh Yeah.

嗯，嗯，是的。

Mhm Yeah.

嗯，是的。

Mhm It's thank you.

嗯，這是謝謝你。

Mhm.

嗯。

You have to do again.

你必須再做一次。

You wouldn't kill never if I if I had to do it over again, I never would have killed.

你不會殺永遠不會，如果我如果讓我重新做，我永遠不會殺。

Absolutely not.

絕對不是。

It was foolish.

這是很愚蠢的。

I thought I needed that kind of springboard to protect the drama on a really great powerful velocity forward him in a wheelchair, he would assume the role of mickey and you know, now his physicality has been diminished.

我想我需要那種跳板來保護戲劇上一個真正偉大的強大的速度前進他在輪椅上，他將承擔米奇的角色，你知道，現在他的身體素質已經被削弱了。

We would have seen a different side of Apollo.

我們會看到阿波羅的另一面。

He could have opened up to all these other things that we didn't even know about because he's now in a wheelchair and he would have kind of like been a father figure, mentor brother been really great, like he would have been embraced by my family then you have his family to well what about that whole thing?

他本可以敞開所有這些我們甚至不知道的其他事情，因為他現在坐在輪椅上，他本可以成為一個父親的形象，導師的弟弟真的很棒，就像他本可以被我的家人擁抱，然後你有他的家人，那麼這整個事情怎麼辦？

Yeah, it would have been, it would have changed the rockies, you would have changed the entire trajectory of all the rockies.

是的，這將是，它將改變岩石，你將改變所有岩石的整個軌跡。

I mean there would have been Rocky five would have never happened and rocky says maybe never would have happened that way and creed.

我的意思是，本來有洛基五號就不會發生，洛基說也許永遠不會發生這種情況，還有信條。

Yeah, we'll create probably never would have been made when you were writing the script.

是的，我們會創造可能永遠不會被製作，當你寫劇本的時候。

Is that the theme that was prominent in your head guilt?

這就是你頭腦中突出的內疚的主題嗎？

Um not as much, not, not as profound, I thought it would be, I was thinking more of just a tail, like a great adventure and I didn't think of the ramifications like, okay, he dies.

嗯，沒有那麼多，沒有，沒有那麼深刻，我以為會是，我想的更多的只是一個尾巴，像一個偉大的冒險，我沒有想到後果，比如，好吧，他死了。

It's like the death of a legend like Muhammad ali that it's like, it has profound repercussions.

這就像穆罕默德-阿里這樣的傳奇人物的死亡，它就像，它有深刻的反響。

I think the biggest problem I had as the younger filmmaker was lack of patience and confidence and extended the moment, I was always very cognizant.

我想，作為年輕的電影人，我最大的問題是缺乏耐心和信心，延長了這一時刻，我總是非常認識。

Okay, ah the audience is gonna get bored, jump ahead instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt and let the emotions sink in.

好吧，啊觀眾會感到厭煩，跳到前面去，而不是給他們好處，讓情緒沉澱下來。

I would rush right through it and now I completely see the uh fallibility and all that.

我會直接衝過去，現在我完全看到了呃易變性和所有這些。

It's very frustrating.

這是非常令人沮喪的。

It really is.

它真的是。

That's why I'm so happy to get a shot of this like magic.

這就是為什麼我很高興能拍到這個像魔術一樣的鏡頭。

Getting a shot to re edit your life is like go back and do things that you always wanted to do.

獲得一個重新編輯你的生活的機會，就像回到過去，做你一直想做的事情。

You know obviously you can't do that with everything, but that's the beauty of your film.

你知道顯然你不可能對所有事情都這樣做，但這就是你的電影的魅力所在。

So I guess I didn't peruse all this stuff in depth and now I see I went it was all there.

所以我想我沒有深入地瀏覽所有這些東西，現在我看到我去它都在那裡。

So you've never seen this take?

所以你從來沒有見過這個鏡頭？

Never since you shot it.

自從你開槍後就再也沒有了。

I've never seen this since 19.

我從19歲起就沒有見過這個。

Hey, hi, you can't win.

嗨，嗨，你不可能贏。

I heard you.

我聽到了。

Adrian always tells it you can't win.

阿德里安總是告訴它你不可能贏。

Yeah, Adrian who he tells it and the more I can mine out of this stuff.

是的，阿德里安他告訴它，我可以從這個東西中挖掘出越多的東西。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

The more the audience is gonna take away something besides just a fight they're going to take uh we went through a journey, lose this, lose that and here we go, keep going.

觀眾越是要帶走一些東西，而不僅僅是一場戰鬥，他們要帶走呃，我們經歷了一個旅程，失去了這個，失去了那個，我們在這裡，繼續前進。

This is where I'm gonna go from.

這是我要去的地方。

Mm hmm.

嗯，嗯。

So I hit him, you cut around to this and you see me shuffle.

所以我打了他，你切到這裡，你看到我在洗牌。

Let's go with the ball gets out of the corner now And now what's more is drago backing Rocky balboa up with a jab and balboa is not staying on balance because of the long Jack the Russians, Thank you, balboa gets out of the corner now and now what's weird is drago backing Rocky balboa up with the jab and balboa is not staying on balance because of the long jab keep looking up.

讓我們用球走出角落 現在更重要的是德拉戈用刺拳支持洛基-巴爾博亞，而巴爾博亞沒有保持平衡，因為長傑克俄羅斯人，謝謝你，巴爾博亞現在走出角落，現在奇怪的是德拉戈用刺拳支持洛基-巴爾博亞，而巴爾博亞沒有保持平衡，因為長刺拳繼續向上看。

Okay, now this means more because you didn't see it before is the complete opposite of what the original was, where I take a complete beating.

好了，現在這意味著更多，因為你之前沒有看到它是與原來完全相反的，在那裡我完全被打了一頓。

This is like interesting people are not gonna expect this.

這好像很有趣，人們不會想到這一點。

I'd like to optically blow this up about 10% and do this, see how it's coming in from this angle right now.

我想在光學上把這個放大10%，然後這樣做，看看現在從這個角度看它是如何進來的。

So you see him doing this, but then you see him coming in underneath.

所以你看到他這樣做，但你又看到他在下面進來。

Not good.

不太好。

I wanted to be like that.

我想成為這樣的人。

So it looks like he's coming from above, which he would, he's six ft five.

所以看起來他是從上面來的，他會的，他有六英尺五英寸。

See what I mean right now he's throwing a punch here.

看到我的意思了吧，現在他在這裡出拳了。

Which makes no sense.

這毫無意義。

Mhm Yeah, There it is.

嗯，是的，就是這樣。

Right away.

馬上就好。

That's that's 100% better.

那是那是100%的好。

This is a morass of self discovery.

這是一個自我發現的泥潭。

Kind of like a swamp the deeper you get into it, it becomes cinematic.

有點像沼澤地，你越是深入其中，它就越有電影感。

Quicksand.

流沙。

Mm hmm.

嗯，嗯。

And if someone doesn't pull you out, you're gonna, what do you feel watching this now?

如果有人不把你拉出來，你就會，你現在看這個有什麼感覺？

I feel foolish.

我覺得很傻。

I said, my God, it looks like the ship sails circus left town.

我說，我的上帝，它看起來像船帆馬戲團離開了小鎮。

That's why this is a mixed bag of emotions right now makes me very angry, gratified.

這就是為什麼現在這種複雜的情緒讓我很生氣，很欣慰。

But also angry that I didn't see it at the time.

但也很生氣，因為我當時沒有看到它。

But isn't that the conundrum of life?

但這不正是生活的難題嗎？

It really is.

它真的是。

If I only knew then what I knew now there it is absolute right giving himself a true champ.

如果我當時只知道我現在所知道的東西，在那裡它是絕對正確的，給自己一個真正的冠軍。

Happy man.

快樂的人。

I really think that we nailed it.

我真的認為，我們釘住了它。

We delivered the knockout blow.

我們提供了淘汰性的打擊。

I finally said what I wanted to say, I should have said 35 years ago that man, man, all of us are entitled to follow our dreams, to stick to our beliefs no matter what the consequences.

我終於說出了我想說的話，我在35年前就應該說，人，人，我們所有人都有權追隨自己的夢想，堅持自己的信念，不管後果如何。

Because in the end that's or you have is the faith in yourself.

因為最終你擁有的是對自己的信心。

And if you keep believing in that eventually it will come true.

如果你一直相信這一點，最終就會成真。

Yeah.

是的。