Name: Dream是英雄? | Dream SMP（Was Dream The HERO? | Dream SMP）
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Wilbur Soot and Dream. The dynamic duo of the hour, the two characters who are on EVERYONE'S

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minds thanks to Wilbur being revived - a duo which most are calling a *villain team up*.

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But hold on a second here, because Wilbur said something the other day which might just

have a bit more truth to it than it seems at first.

So, is Dream ACTUALLY the villain of this story? I KNOW - this seems like a stupid question,

but I'm telling you, there's a lot more to this than you probably think there is - so

let's get straight into whether DREAM is actually the HERO of the Dream SMP.

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Okay, so let's get back to the topic of the video. The main reason people call Dream

a villain is because of his antagonistic role way back at the beginning of the server, to

L'Manberg, the faction created by the one and only Mr. Soot, and which is widely viewed

as “the good guys”. But- how good ARE they, exactly?

The reason why I'm asking this, is that Wilbur Soot - or, to be more specific - Revived

Wilbur, exposed the mindset, motivation and ideology with which he created L'Manberg

Wilbur never cared about L'Manberg. He doesn't even think Dream is the VILLAIN of the server

- note his sarcastic agreements when Tommy calls Dream a dictator - and he goes on to

(kind-of?) explain why. The ONLY reason Wilbur made L'Manberg, the reason he rallied all

these people and gave his speeches and united them- he only DID that to try and - in his

He didn't care about freedom, or liberty, or independence, at least, not for the ideals

themselves - he only wanted to stick it to Dream. Wilbur wanted Dream to not have the

peace he was trying to achieve, simply because Dream was in power. Wilbur wanted to have

that sort of power, and so creating L'Manberg so that he would have absolute power over

it - convincing everyone that L'Manberg was important and necessary and a way to fight

back - that was all for his personal benefit, for his power and his power alone.

He didn't start L'Manberg because Dream was a tyrant - because really, he wasn't,

there were what, three rules, and even those he barely enforced - and it wasn't because

Dream wasn't letting him do what he wanted either.

No, Wilbur made L'Manberg with solely selfish goals in mind - and the country was, in a

way, designed to make Dream attack it, hell, its entire reason for EXISTING was to try

and paint Dream as the villain, to be a thorn in his side, to make everyone call him the

bad guy, and to create a weapon of power for Wilbur, and Wilbur alone to be in charge of.

Now let's take a look at Dream's side of the story, his point of view of the L'Manberg

War of Independence, which he very neatly explained in this stream with Skeppy from

that was a slightly longer clip, so I'm sorry about that, but you get the idea. From

the start, Dream never had any antagonistic feelings towards L'Manberg. People could

make it seem like the problem was land, or Dream's personal power being threatened, but

that was never the reason at all - L'Manberg declaring INDEPENDENCE was the problem in

his eyes, and only when the other side made it clear they wouldn't compromise, did he

Another great example is Dream's involvement in the disc war. It seems, right, that Dream

was inherently villainous in this conflict. I mean, what kind of monster steals someone's

most prized possessions, for no apparent reason, and then continues to pursue them as leverage?

That seems pretty bad-guy, right? Well - not really.

If you think back, all the way to the first disc conflict, back in August of 2020 when

I had less than a hundred subscribers and times were a lot more peaceful - Tommy and

Sapnap actively engaged in a conflict with Ponk and Alyssa, which Dream MEDIATED, and

THEN, after Tommy killed Dream two times, unprovoked, stole all of his items and REFUSED

to give them back - ONLY after ALL of that, did Dream steal Tommy's discs, and try to

use them as leverage. Of course, he did continue to use the discs, but only because Tommy ACTIVELY

used them as leverage. Tommy said that peace would never be an option and therefore, the

only thing keeping Tommy in check was Dream's possession and usage of the discs.

To put it simply, Wilbur - and by extension, the rest of L'Manberg, who parroted what

he said - called Dream a tyrant for nothing. Even during the Pogtopia arc, when Wilbur

and Tommy were at their weakest, when Dream could have easily snuffed out the voices that

had been his biggest critics, Dream remained neutral, even trying to stay on the side of

the good guys and actively helping them, “from the shadows'' - he's not a villain, because

he does what he feels will benefit the server instead of doing what might benefit him.

The fact that he was pitted against Wilbur, this silver tongued orator who managed to

convince even Dream himself, let alone the audience, that Dream was the villain, THAT,

and only that is why Dream is seen as the villain now. L'Manberg, as beloved as it

was, as inspirational and revolutionary as it seemed, served the exact purpose it was

meant for. It divided. L'Manberg divided the server, giving Wilbur that oh-so-precious

power and also a reason to USE it, and Dream saw that, or at least partially did, and thus

tried to put a stop to it, only resorting to more and more violence when peaceful negotiations

But, well, there is one part of Dream's character that...isn't the best, and is

the strongest argument for him actually being the villain he's made out to be. The TommyInnit

exile arc. The entire exile arc as a whole was, to put it simply, not good. At all. Manipulation,

gaslighting, and more, all for no really good purpose - during the exile arc, Dream the

character did inexcusable things that can't be forgiven, no matter the motive. It is interesting

to note that in spite of this, Wilbur STILL calls Dream his hero, despite knowing of the

horrendous things Dream has done, hell, even ACKNOWLEDGING those things in the same sentence

- Wilbur still sees Dream as his hero. Which kinda gives you an insight into just how messed

up Wilbur himself is - glossing over abuse and other horrific acts to quietly soothe

There is also the prison arc, which, in essence, is a parallel to the exile arc in many ways

- isolation, mental deterioration, infrequent visits - except to more extreme lengths than

what we've seen anyone, even Dream, go to before. This is why I wouldn't go as far

as to call this payback - however, it's important to note Dream hasn't only inflicted

pain on others by his rashness, but that he's also been through hell himself.

The destruction of New L'Manberg is up next, and I'm about to be real controversial here

- Techno and Dream completely eradicating New L'Manberg was a good thing. Now wait!

Hold on, I know, you're about to either click off or dislike or something, but seriously,

hear me out for a second. New L'Manberg as a concept was great - a new, fresh start

on a nation no longer corrupted by Wilbur's influence, pursuing the admittedly sturdy

ideals that a not so sturdy leader had laid down in the past. What could go wrong, right?

The thing is, the Dream SMP is full of characters who were just WAITING to use Wilbur's tool,

to influence, take over, and corrupt it. L'Manberg had become more than the sum of its parts,

there were people who would stick with the nation through EVERYTHING, because of just

how well Wilbur crafted and sold his propaganda, meaning that when you control L'Manberg,

L'Manberg was getting influenced already by the likes of Quackity, who had learnt from

Wilbur that death, destruction and force was the only way forward, and who manipulated

Tubbo into forming the Butcher Army. As an army, they broke into Philza's house, who

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