- Hey, I'm Austin.

- 嘿，我是奧斯汀。

- Hi, I'm Floyd Norman,

- 嗨，我是弗洛伊德-諾曼。

veteran Disney artist and storyteller.

資深迪士尼藝術家和講故事的人。

I worked on great films like "Sleeping Beauty,"

我曾在《睡美人》等偉大的電影中工作過。

"101 Dalmatians," "Sword in the Stone,"

"101達爾馬提亞人"，"石中劍"。

and Walt's final film, "The Jungle Book."

和華特的最後一部電影 "叢林之書"。

And that ties into our task today because

這與我們今天的任務有關，因為

from Walt Disney's "The Jungle Book," we are going to

從華特-迪斯尼的 "叢林之書"，我們要去

be drawing little Mowgli and Kaa the Python.

正在畫小Mowgli和蟒蛇Kaa。

- Oh, man. That's gonna be cool.

- 哦，夥計。這將是很酷。

(laughing)

（笑）

- I'm scared.

- 我很害怕

(laughing)

（笑）

- Floyd, speaking of what we're drawing today

- 弗洛伊德，說到我們今天要畫的東西。

do you have like a favorite sequence

你有喜歡的序列

from the jungle book that you worked on?

從你工作過的那本叢林書裡？

- Oh, yeah, yeah.

- 哦，是的，是的。

I would say hands down my favorite sequence,

我會說手下來我最喜歡的序列。

because, I guess because I was so involved in it,

因為，我想是因為我是如此參與其中。

was the wonderful...

是美妙的...

the second meeting of Mowgli and Kaa.

Mowgli和Kaa的第二次見面。

Walt wanted a song and Robert and Richard Sherman

華特想要一首歌，羅伯特和理查德-謝爾曼也想要一首歌

wrote a song called, "Trust In Me."

寫了一首歌，叫 "相信我"。

That we took that song and Vance and I,

我們把那首歌和萬斯和我。

my partner, Vance Gerry, re-storyboarded the sequence.

我的搭檔，萬斯-格里，重新編排了序列。

We had already made one pass, but once we had a song,

我們已經過了一關，但一旦我們有了一首歌。

at the suggestion of Walt Disney, we reboarded the sequence

在華特-迪斯尼的建議下，我們重新登上了這個序列

and it's Mowgli as he sort of wanders around, half-dazed,

這是Mowgli，因為他有點四處遊蕩，半暈眩。

half-asleep and the coils of the snake

半夢半醒的蛇蠍心腸。

and beautifully animated by Frank Thomas.

並由弗蘭克-托馬斯製作精美的動畫。

I have to add that Frank, one of the nine old men,

我還得補充一句，九老之一的弗蘭克。

did just a masterful job of bringing my drawings to life

把我的圖畫活靈活現地表現出來了。

on screen and just making that sequence sparkle.

在螢幕上，只是讓這個序列閃閃發光。

Yeah, I've got a question for you guys

是啊，我有一個問題要問你們。

because you're younger.

因為你比較年輕

And just coming into this amazing business.

而剛剛進入這個神奇的行業。

Did you guys animate on paper?

你們是在紙上做動畫嗎？

Did you do traditional hand-drawn animation?

你做過傳統的手繪動畫嗎？

- Less for full animation and more for design for animation.

- 少為全動畫，多為動畫設計。

But in college, that's how we learned to animate

但在大學裡，我們就是這樣學會了動畫製作

was traditionally.

是傳統上。

- Yeah. Yeah.

- 是啊，是啊。對，對

The basics, the basics.

基礎知識，基礎知識。

The bouncing ball.

彈力球。

Squash and stretch.

擠壓和拉伸。

You got a sense of weight and volume.

你有一種重量和體積感。

These traditional animation principles still come in handy.

這些傳統的動畫原理還是很有用的。

Even after you make the move to digital.

即使在你轉向數字之後。

It's good to come from that.

這是很好的來由。

You know, that basic solid foundation

你知道，那基本的堅實基礎

- Like what's the secret to drawing

- 比如畫畫的祕訣是什麼

a good Mowgli and Kaa, Mr. Floyd?

一個好的Mowgli和Kaa，Floyd先生?

- Well, you know, Mowgli and Kaa the Python were animated

- 嗯，你知道，莫格利和蟒蛇卡亞是動畫的。

by the top Disney animators.

由迪士尼頂級動畫師。

And Milt Kahl in particular,

尤其是Milt Kahl

we would get Milt Kahl's drawings, his sketches

我們會得到米爾特-卡爾的畫，他的素描。

his rough sketches, not all his final sketches,

他的草圖，而不是他所有的最終草圖。

but his very rough drawings.

但他的畫很粗糙。

And we would study his technique.

而且我們會研究他的技術。

That's how you got to be better.

這樣你才會變得更好。

That's how you became a better artist.

這就是你如何成為一個更好的藝術家。

You saw the best work and you emulated that.

你看到了最好的作品，你就模仿了。

So how do you do a good Mowgli drawing?

那麼如何畫好莫格利呢？

How do you do a good drawing of Kaa the snake?

如何畫好蛇卡阿？

Study the work of those who are better than you are.

學習那些比你優秀的人的作品。

- Yeah. I draw with crayola.

- 是的，我用蠟筆畫畫。

So I'm just like sitting here.

所以我就像坐在這裡。

- Doesn't matter.

- 無所謂了

- It's just like, "Oh, okay."

- 它只是喜歡，"哦，好吧。"

- You could still make a good drawing with a crayon.

- 你還是可以用蠟筆畫出一幅好畫的。

Hey, Jess, Austin, how are your drawings coming?

嘿，傑西，奧斯汀，你的畫怎麼樣了？

(laughing)

（笑）

- I think it's actually looking okay.

- 我覺得其實看起來還不錯。

- How's your drawing coming, Floyd?

- 你的畫畫得怎麼樣了，弗洛伊德？

- My only challenge is to, as I often tell my students,

- 我唯一的挑戰是，我經常告訴我的學生。

I try to draw him on model.

我試著在模型上畫他。

Because when a Disney character is drawn off-model,

因為當迪士尼的角色被畫成脫胎換骨的樣子。

oh boy, that's regarded as a sin.

哦，孩子，這被認為是一種罪過。

(laughing) - Fear.

恐懼

- You know, I started out in the 1950s.

- 你知道，我是在50年代開始的。

By the time I got to the early seventies

到了七十年代初的時候

and I was animating on a Disney feature film.

而我在迪士尼的劇情片裡做動畫。

I was beginning to feel like maybe I know

我開始覺得也許我知道

a little bit about animation now.

現在說一下動畫。

And I was animating Robin Hood, and this was in Iran.

我在給羅賓漢做動畫，這是在伊朗。

Yeah. The early seventies we were doing Robin Hood.

是啊，七十年代初我們在做羅賓漢。70年代初，我們在做羅賓漢。

And I was animating the fox and it was fun.

我在給狐狸做動畫，很有意思。

I was enjoying myself and I was having a great time.

我很享受，我很開心。

But, you know, it takes a while

但是，你知道，這需要一段時間

to build that kind of confidence.

來建立這種信心。

And you have to do a lot of bad stuff

而且你要做很多壞事。

before you can start to do a lot of good stuff.

才能開始做很多好事情。

- Would you say that was your favorite film?

- 你說那是你最喜歡的電影嗎？

- Actually, it was one of the films

- 其實，這是其中一部電影

that I liked the least at Disney.

我在迪士尼最不喜歡的。

(laughing)

（笑）

Well, because of Walt Disney owned the studio

好吧，因為華特-迪斯尼擁有的工作室

and probably it was his studio.

而且可能是他的工作室。

He could walk into your room at any moment unannounced.

他隨時可能不經意地走進你的房間。

And Walt would do that.

Walt也會這麼做

People don't, you know, big bosses

人們不，你知道，大老闆。

and executives don't do that today.

和高管們今天不這樣做。

They usually, you know, when they're coming in

他們通常，你知道， 當他們進來的時候，

there's been announcements and preparations.

已經有公告和準備工作。

But Walt Disney could simply one day just wander

但華特-迪斯尼可能只是有一天只是在流浪

into your office and you look around

進入你的辦公室，你環顧四周

and there's the boss standing in your office.

而老闆就站在你的辦公室裡。

- Oh my goodness.

- 哦，我的天啊。

- So you feel like, what you wanna do is just

- 所以，你覺得，你想做的是... ...

fall off your chair and hide under your desk.

從椅子上掉下來，躲在桌子底下。

- But you can't.

- 但你不能。

- You can't.

- 你不能這樣做

Can't do that.

不能這樣做。

He's already seen you.

他已經看到你了

But that's okay.

但這沒關係。

He was a good guy.

他是個好人。

I don't mean to say this, that Walt could be intimidating,

我不是想說這個，華特可能會被嚇到。

but he wasn't a bad guy.

但他不是一個壞人。

You know, he was, he didn't treat people poorly.

你知道，他是，他對人的態度不差。

He was very generous, very gracious.

他非常大方，非常親切。

And I never had any problems with the boss.

而我和老闆也從來沒有過任何問題。

- Wow, that's awesome.

- 哇，那是真棒。

- Hey guys, how are you finishing your drawings?

- 小夥伴們，你們的畫畫完成得怎麼樣了？

- I'm making it up.

- 是我編的

(laughing)

（笑）

I'm just like,

我只是喜歡。

"Hey, so I should probably draw a background."

"嘿，所以我也許應該畫一個背景。"

Oh wait. I don't know how to draw those.

哦，等等，我不知道怎麼畫這些。我不知道怎麼畫這些。

Anyway, time to make it up."

不管怎麼說，該補上了。"

So like I'm drawing some...

所以，像我畫一些... ...

I think what are leaves-

我想葉子是什麼

- Okay.

- 好吧，我知道了

- and trees and bushes, and it's fine.

- 和樹木和灌木，它的罰款。

- Okay.

- 好吧，我知道了

You don't necessarily have to draw a background.

你不一定要畫背景。

I mean, you can just sometimes just throw

我的意思是，你可以只是有時只是扔

in a splash of color.

在斑斕的色彩中。

- Yeah, it's really not much of a background.

- 是啊，其實也沒什麼背景。

I say background to be nice to myself.

我說背景是為了對自己好。

It's really just like blotches of color.

真的就像斑斕的色彩。

And I'm like, yeah, this is fine.

我很喜歡，是的，這很好。

I don't know what I'm-

我不知道我在...

- Nothing wrong with a good blotch.

- 好的汙點沒有錯。

(laughing)

（笑）

- We'll see.

- 等著瞧吧

You can be the judge of that.

這點你可以自己判斷。

- [Austin] Oh wow. - [Jess] Oh, so cute.

- [奧斯汀]哦，哇。- [傑西]哦，這麼可愛。

- [Austin] Oh my God.

- [奧斯汀] 哦，我的上帝。

- [Floyd] Wow.

- [弗洛伊德]哇。

- These are so cute.

- 這些都是如此可愛。

- Geez.

- 天啊

Floyd, yours is so cute.

弗洛伊德，你的太可愛了。

And you give it like a little blush.

而你給它像一個小臉紅。

- There's like no comparison.

- 就像沒有比較一樣。

It's just, it's a hundred percent.

只是，這是百分之百的。

It's a hundred percent Mowgli.

這是百分之百的Mowgli。

- The Mowgli up in the tree at night.

- 晚上在樹上的Mowgli。

It's really interesting.

這真的很有趣。

But even though that was one of the...

但即使那是一個... ...

Some of the first stuff animated on "The Jungle Book"

"叢林之書 "上的一些首批動畫作品。

was that sequence of Mowgli up in the tree at night

是那一連串的Mowgli在晚上的樹上。

and Kaa, you know, sneaking around.

和卡亞，你知道，偷偷摸摸的.

And then this is nice with the jungle background and Kaa.

然後這個是不錯的叢林背景和卡阿。

Really nice.

真的很不錯。

- I love your poses, Austin.

- 我喜歡你的姿勢，奧斯汀。

It's so cute.

它是如此可愛。

- I am very impressed.

- 我印象非常深刻。

These are really nice.

這些都是非常好的。

- Wow. Thank you.

- 哇哦！謝謝你。

- Yeah, you guys, you put me to shame.

- 是啊，你們這些傢伙，你們讓我很慚愧。

- Oh, no.

- 哦，不

- Don't say that.

- 別這麼說

(laughing)

（笑）

- I'm gonna go scream.

- 我要去尖叫。

- I've been upstaged by the kids.

- 我已經被孩子們超越了。

(laughing)

（笑）

- A hundred percent inspired by the master, so...

- 百分之百的靈感來自於大師，所以... ...

- Hey, I will give you the Walt Disney compliment, you know.

- 嘿，我會給你華特迪士尼的讚美，你知道的。

And Walt was not lavish handing out compliments.

而華特並不奢侈的派發讚美之詞。

But he...

但他...

if he liked what you did

如果他喜歡你做的事

he would say two words:

他會說兩個字。

"That'll work."

"這樣就可以了。"

- Oh.

- 哦。

- And that was high praise from Walt Disney.

- 而這是華特-迪斯尼的高度評價。

"That'll work."

"這樣就可以了。"

- I'm having a crisis...

- 我有一個危機...

I think I'm having a crisis right now.

我想我現在有一個危機。

(laughing)

（笑）

- Austin just fangirling over here.

- 奧斯汀只是迷戀這裡。

- I am. It's a lot.

- 我是。這是一個很大的。

I'm trying to keep it together.

我在努力保持冷靜

I'm just like, "No, it's okay, like, be cool."

我只是想，"不，這沒關係，喜歡，是很酷。"

And I'm like losing it.

而我就像失去了它。

- To check out these drawings and more just like them.

- 要查看這些圖紙和更多類似的圖紙。

Check us out on Instagram @drawoffshow.

在Instagram上查看我們@drawoffshow。

(cheerful music)

(歡快的音樂)