Name: 馬克斯-凱勒曼和斯蒂芬-A.討論了梅耶斯-萊昂納德為使用反猶太主義汙言穢語而道歉的問題--《第一視角》。 (Max Kellerman & Stephen A. discuss Meyers Leonard's apology for using anti-Semitic slur | First Take)
Uploaded: 2021-03-11T19:06:19.000Z
Duration: 6 min 41 s

Miami head coach Erik Spoelstra spoke out after a video of center Meyers Leonard surfaced on social media Tuesday, where Leonard can be heard using an anti Semitic slur during a video game.

邁阿密主教練埃裡克-斯波爾斯特拉在週二社交媒體上出現了一段中鋒梅耶斯-萊昂納德的視頻後發表了講話，在視頻中可以聽到萊昂納德在視頻比賽中使用了反閃族的汙言穢語。

Livestream Leonard has since issued an apology, while Spoelstra called his comments distasteful and hurtful.

此後，Livestream萊昂納德發表了道歉，而斯波爾斯特拉則稱他的言論令人厭惡和傷害。

Several people across the sports world have weighed in on this week, including New England Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman, who is Jewish, published an open letter saying in part quote.

整個體育界有幾個人在本週發表了意見，包括新英格蘭愛國者隊的外接手朱利安-埃德爾曼，他是猶太人，他發表了一封公開信，用部分報價說。

I get the sense that you didn't use that word out of hate, more out of ignorance.

我感覺你用這個詞並不是因為恨，更多的是出於無知。

Most likely, you weren't trying to hurt anyone or even profile Jews in your comments.

很有可能，你並不想傷害任何人，甚至在你的評論中對猶太人進行描述。

When someone intends to be hateful, it's usually met with great resistance.

當有人打算憎恨的時候，通常會遭到很大的阻力。

Casual ignorance is harder to combat and has greater reach, especially when you command great influence.

隨意的無視比較難對付，而且影響面比較大，尤其是當你指揮的影響力很大的時候。

Even accidentally, it can rapidly spread.

Let's do a Shabbat dinner with some friends.

讓我們做一個安息日晚餐 與一些朋友。

I'll show you a fun Time has also since been announced that Leonard will be away from the heat indefinitely that, according to the organization, while the NBA conducts an investigation.

我給你看個好玩的 時間也是在此後宣佈，萊昂納德將無限期遠離熱火，據該組織稱，同時NBA進行調查。

First, I want to react to Julian Edelman.

首先，我想對朱利安-埃德爾曼做出反應。

他對肖恩-傑克遜也是這樣做的。

Instead of canceling someone, as they say, Uh, usually bigotry or that kind of speech or am bigotry generally is from fear and hate, but also largely from ignorance.

而不是像他們說的那樣取消某人，呃，通常偏執或那種言論或阿偏執一般是來自恐懼和仇恨，但也主要是來自無知。

And so what Julian Edelman does is reach out a hand and say, Look, let me put you up on some stuff and maybe it'll change the way you think and behave.

所以朱利安-埃德爾曼做的是伸出手說，你看，讓我把你的一些東西，也許它會改變你的思維和行為方式。

而且我喜歡愛德曼的這種宣傳。

I applaud it both in the D Sean Jackson case and here with Meyers Leonard, let me say, I'm Jewish, but not only in my Jewish.

我對肖恩-傑克遜的案子和梅耶斯-倫納德的案子都表示讚賞，讓我說，我是猶太人，但不僅僅是我的猶太人。

You could open the schmooze off the dish.

我剛剛在ESPN上說了意第緒語，對吧？

I had I had relatives who were killed in the Holocaust.

我有我有親戚在大屠殺中喪生。

My youngest daughter, mirror is named for my great grandmother, who was shot in the head Spiteri a ditch along with 3000 other Jews by the Nazis.

我的小女兒，鏡子是以我曾祖母的名字命名的，她和其他3000名猶太人一起被納粹在溝渠中頭部被射殺。

I think Oftentimes when these things happen, you have to ask yourself who is the offended party?

我想很多時候，當這些事情發生時，你要問自己，誰是被冒犯的一方？

Because I feel that we're in a great rush to be offended by something.

因為我覺得我們很著急，很想得罪一些人。

And I am a member of the group of which he is speaking.

而我是他所說的小組成員之一。

Um, other than just kind of like a kind of general kind of insult toward the person he was shooting at in the game, right?

嗯，其他的只是一種像一般的一種侮辱 對他在遊戲中拍攝的人，對不對？

This is different than the Sean Jackson who quoted Hitler and then highlighted a specific, especially anti Semitic part right.

這與肖恩-傑克遜引用希特勒的話，然後強調一個特定的，特別是反閃族的部分不同吧。

And even then, I'm not ready to cancel the Sean Jackson.

即使如此，我也不準備取消肖恩-傑克遜。

I have questions, and I didn't like to Sean Jackson's explanation.

我有問題，我不喜歡肖恩-傑克遜的解釋。

I lead to more questions, and I have questions from Meyers Leonard.

我引出更多的問題，我有來自梅耶斯-萊昂納德的問題。

I don't believe he doesn't know what the word means, and I don't know literally what the word means either.

我不相信他不知道這個詞是什麼意思，我也不知道字面意思。

I also don't find an equivalency here with this and the n word, let's say, because we're not in Germany, were living in the United States.

我在這裡也找不到這個和n字的等價關係，比方說，因為我們不是在德國，是在美國生活。

The history of different persecuted ethnic minorities is not exactly the same as African American history.

不同受迫害的少數民族的歷史與非裔美國人的歷史並不完全相同。

I'll just say I'd like to know Stephen A where he was coming from.

我只想說我想知道Stephen A的來歷。

I don't believe he doesn't know that he didn't know it was an insult towards Jews.

我不相信他不知道，他不知道這是對猶太人的侮辱。

Is he from a kind of friend group that messes around like that?

他是那種朋友群裡的人，這樣亂來嗎？

And they're going back and forth like that?

The very least we can say is right now, Meyers Leonard paying a stupid tax because it's one thing to do that privately and say That's the culture of my friend group.

最起碼我們現在可以說，梅耶斯-萊昂納德交了一個愚蠢的稅，因為私下裡這麼做是一回事，說這是我朋友集團的文化。

It's quite another to do it publicly that at the very least, you pay a stupid tax for and more than that.

公然做的是另一回事，最起碼，你要交一個愚蠢的稅，而且不止於此。

Now I have questions I'd like to hear you answer.

I appreciate that explanation, and I appreciate you providing the education, not just to the world, about the things that you just said Max, but to me because I didn't know all of that, All right, so I really appreciate that.

我很感激你的解釋， 我很感激你提供的教育， 不僅僅是對世界， 關於你剛才說的事情最大， 但對我來說，因為我不知道所有的， 好吧，所以我真的很感激。

There's a rare moment because I could have actually listened to you for the next 10 minutes, and usually that's very difficult for me to do when it comes to you.

有一個難得的時刻，因為我其實可以在接下來的10分鐘裡聽你說話，通常在你身上，我很難做到這一點。

But I would have gladly done that in this particular situation because I would have wanted to hear a complete soliloquy, diatribe or whatever word is appropriate from you because you are Jewish.

但在這種特殊的情況下，我很樂意這樣做，因為我想聽你說完整的獨白、檄文或任何合適的詞，因為你是猶太人。

You are the offended party, and I think that's incredibly incredibly important here.

你是被冒犯的一方，我認為這一點非常重要。

What I have to say about this to me isn't that important.

對我來說，我要說的這些並不重要。

The most important thing is what you had to say because you're the offended party.

最重要的是你有什麼話要說，因為你是被冒犯的一方。

And so to me, you get to determine how offended you are by what Myles Lennon had to say, because you have a level of comprehension about where he was coming from and what exactly he meant.

所以對我來說，你可以決定你對Myles Lennon所說的話有多大的冒犯，因為你對他從哪裡來，到底是什麼意思，有一定的理解能力。

Even though you still say you don't know, you certainly have a better idea of it than me.

雖然你還是說不知道，但你肯定比我更清楚。

Adam Silver, who's gonna be on greeny show radio show this afternoon.

亞當-西爾弗，他今天下午要上綠茵秀電臺節目。

The commissioner of the NBA who happens to be Jewish.

He can speak to that on far too many occasions I find, particularly as it pertains to African Americans.

我發現他在太多場合都能說到這一點，尤其是涉及到非裔美國人的時候。

When we're offended, you have people apologizing and backtracking and what have you Because they they're fearful of the reaction as opposed to really comprehending what was said, how offensive it was and why you have made a concerted effort to to to give miles later the chance to explain themselves.

當我們被冒犯時，你有人們道歉和回溯和什麼有你因為他們他們害怕的反應，而不是真正理解什麼是說，它是多麼令人反感的，以及為什麼你已經做出了協調一致的努力，以給英里後的機會解釋自己。

I think a lot of times one of the problems is that we get guys, they make mistakes and they get to hide, issue a statement, disappear without really explaining and articulating what your position was weird emanated from.

我認為很多時候，其中一個問題是，我們得到的傢伙，他們犯了錯誤，他們得到隱藏，發佈聲明，消失，沒有真正解釋和闡明你的立場是什麼奇怪的發出。

Let them stay in front and center and do that?

讓他們呆在前面和中間，做到這一點？

I'm not an advocate of the cancer culture mentality.

I don't believe that this guy should never be in the league again because he made this mistake.

我不相信這傢伙因為犯了這個錯誤就不應該再進入聯盟。

I agree on apologetic, and then you continue to do nonsense like that.

我同意道歉，然後你繼續這樣胡鬧。

But if he simply made a mistake then I'm saying I'm of the mindset.

但如果他只是犯了一個錯誤，那麼我說我的心態。

 Okay, explain yourself and explain yourself before folks who understand exactly where you may be coming from so they can understand and comprehend whether or decipher, rather, whether you're phony or sincere, whether your contrition is real or fake. 

好吧，在明白你可能來自哪裡的鄉親們面前解釋一下，解釋一下，讓他們明白和理解你是假的還是真誠的，你的懺悔是真的還是假的。

馬克斯-凱勒曼和斯蒂芬-A.討論了梅耶斯-萊昂納德為使用反猶太主義汙言穢語而道歉的問題--《第一視角》。 (Max Kellerman & Stephen A. discuss Meyers Leonard's apology for using anti-Semitic slur | First Take)

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馬克斯-凱勒曼和斯蒂芬-A.討論了梅耶斯-萊昂納德為使用反猶太主義汙言穢語而道歉的問題--《第一視角》。 (Max Kellerman & Stephen A. discuss Meyers Leonard's apology for using anti-Semitic slur | First Take)

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