Please welcome the very talented Lauren Cohen.

請歡迎非常有才華的勞倫-科恩。

How are you?

你好嗎？

I'm good.

我很好

Uh, you say my name, right?

呃，你說我的名字，對嗎？

Conan?

柯南？

People don't have a few people.

人沒有幾個人。

People say Cohen.

人們說科恩。

And when I was younger and I tried to correct them, I said Cohen and they all said, like, Conan the Barbarian.

當我年輕的時候，我試圖糾正他們，我說科恩，他們都說，比如，野蠻人柯南。

And I was like, Well, that's not my preferred reference, but sure.

我當時想，嗯，這不是我喜歡的參考，但肯定。

And then, uh, yeah, like a shitty nickname.

然後，呃，是的，像一個低劣的暱稱。

Well, I was, um I was a teenager when the Conan The Barbarian movie came out and my life was held.

嗯，我是，嗯，我是一個十幾歲 當柯南野蠻人的電影出來，我的生活舉行。

But the only upside to it was that I had to get it.

但唯一的好處是，我必須得到它。

I got in so many fights.

我打了那麼多架。

Did I develop the same physique as the actual Conan the Barbarian?

難道我養成了和真實的野蠻人柯南一樣的體質？

And I've kept it to this day.

而且我一直保留到現在。

I just Thank you.

我只是謝謝你。

Yeah, that's right.

是的，這是正確的。

So good of you to know this.

你能知道這些真好

You know, it's funny, because I, um I do feel very comfortable talking to you because I talked to you when you were first on the walking dead.

你知道，這很有趣，因為我，嗯... ... 我覺得很舒服跟你說話 因為我跟你說話 當你第一次在行屍走肉。

I think I think I might have been one of the first shows that you came on.

我想我可能是你最早上的節目之一。

And obviously, you were You're just a very nice real person.

很明顯，你是... ...你只是一個非常好的真實的人。

So we got along right away.

所以我們馬上就相處起來了。

But I remember thinking when I first talked to you, I don't think you've been doing the show that long at all.

但我記得第一次和你哈拉的時候，我就在想，我覺得你做這個節目根本沒有那麼久。

You were kind of a newbie.

你是個新手

Yeah.

是啊。

I kind of knew that you were my first talk show experience for legitimately.

我知道你是我第一次合法的脫口秀經歷。

It was the first, and it was It was very easy, I will say.

這是第一個，它是... ...這是非常容易的，我會說。

And I think that you re enacted a kill with me, and I think that it was right around the time when our group was doing, like, a lot of, you know, we were suddenly sort of deluged by a bunch of new zombies and, uh and yeah, it was It was fun.

我想你和我一起殺了人，我想那是在我們組做的時候，就像，很多，你知道，我們突然被一群新的殭屍淹沒了，呃，是的，這很有趣。

It was like, It's crazy to think about it.

當時就想，想想都覺得瘋狂。

That was, like, 10 years ago.

那是10年前的事了

I know.

我知道，我知道

Um, yeah.

嗯，是的。

And yet still, I'm only in my mid thirties.

然而我還是隻有三十多歲。

Uh, don't laugh at that.

呃，別笑了。

I'm going to edit that laugh out.

我要把這個笑點編輯出來。

Uh, did you notice?

呃，你注意到了嗎？

Did you notice that when you've been doing it for a while?

你做了一段時間後，有沒有發現？

When you first started, okay?

你剛開始的時候，好嗎？

And your brand new on walking dead and you have to kill a zombie.

而你是《行屍走肉》的新成員，你必須殺死一個殭屍。

Was your technique different than and say it is now that you're you're a pro?

你的技術是不是比和說不一樣，現在你你是專業的？

Yeah, Because you have to keep yourself entertained, right?

是啊，因為你得讓自己開心，對吧？

So I'm just I'm almost embarrassed by my like, super basic zombie kill skills from the beginning, because they were just, you know, the machete or just like, you know, the what would you even call it if you're here like a shish kebab kebab?

所以，我只是我幾乎尷尬 我喜歡，超級基本的殭屍殺戮技能 從一開始，因為他們只是，你知道， 砍刀或只是喜歡，你知道，你會怎麼 甚至叫它，如果你在這裡像一個烤肉串烤肉？

I like to fish kebab.

我喜歡釣魚串。

Yeah, yeah, for And And that doesn't even have to be for somebody called Bob.

是啊，是啊，對於和... ...這甚至不一定是對某人叫鮑勃。

I mean, that can be for any any name, zombie, and, uh, and then we do like the the hearing aid.

我的意思是，可以為任何任何名字，殭屍，和，呃，然後我們做喜歡的助聽器。

If you have, like, from ear to ear, you like a little scoop right through.

如果你有一樣，從耳朵到耳朵，你喜歡一個小勺子的權利通過。

Um, so when these new people come, I try to tell them to use these and I give them names and, um, nobody.

嗯，所以當這些新來的人，我試圖告訴他們使用這些，我給他們的名字和，嗯，沒有人。

Nobody uses the names.

沒有人使用這些名字。

It's weird.

這很奇怪。

They just they don't.

他們只是他們沒有。

They don't stick.

他們不粘。

I could be, uh mine would be the puree.

我可以是，呃，我的會是果泥。

What I would do is I would grab a zombie, and I would force his head into a professional chefs blender, and then I would push puree, and I would puree the zombie's head for 25 seconds.

我會做的是抓住一個殭屍，然後把他的頭強行放進專業廚師攪拌機裡，然後我按下果泥，把殭屍的頭打成泥25秒。

So it was a nice froth.

所以，它是一個很好的保麗龍。

And then I would pour that froth on top of like, a a lot and get a little freeze it into little ice cubes so that when you have your with the cocktail, you can have a giant giant cube of your ideas, your ideas much better.

然後我會倒在上面的保麗龍一樣，很多，並得到一個小冷凍成小冰塊，所以，當你有你的雞尾酒，你可以有一個巨大的巨大立方體的想法，你的想法更好。

Your ideas much.

你的想法多。

No, no, no.

不，不，不。

I like your idea better, because alcohol is involved.

我更喜歡你的想法，因為涉及到酒精。

So right, you took it up.

所以對了，你把它。

You took it up a notch.

你把它提高了一個等級。

And I appreciate that.

我很感激

We actually, um, someone on my staff has way too much time on his hands, and he put together a montage of your zombie kills.

事實上，嗯，我的員工中有人有太多的時間在他的手中， 他把你的殭屍殺戮的蒙太奇放在一起。

And this is a true testament to your abilities as a true warrior.

這就是你作為一個真正的戰士的能力的真實證明。

Let's take a look, Mac.

讓我們來看看，麥克

There's a shish kebab.

有一個烤肉串。

There's a shish kebab.

有一個烤肉串。

Oh, my God.

哦，我的上帝。

Waffle maker.

華夫餅機。

Oh, that was a waffle maker.

哦，那是一個華夫餅機。

Oh, this is obey.

哦，這是服從。

Three times.

三次。

Oh, we need more.

哦，我們需要更多。

You need more.

你需要更多。

You know what's crazy?

你知道最瘋狂的是什麼嗎？

And this says something sad about me.

這也說明了我的一些悲哀。

I could watch that all day, and especially if you're having a bad day and you have a lot of unresolved anger.

我可以看一整天，尤其是當你今天心情不好，有很多未解決的憤怒時。

I when I when I watch walking dead and you guys take out 35 zombies in two seconds, I come down to dinner with my wife and kids, and I'm so Zen I feel I feel you relieved.

我當我當我看《行屍走肉》，你們兩秒鐘就幹掉35個殭屍，我下來和老婆孩子一起吃飯，我很禪意，我覺得我覺得你放心了。

It's been a cathartic experience.

這是一次洗禮的經歷。

All my childhood, not people.

我所有的童年，不是人。

Yeah, exactly.

是的，沒錯。

There are people, but luckily, there's a You know, there's sort of an allowance in your mind for the fact that you're also freeing them of being the undead.

有一些人，但幸運的是，有一個 你知道，有一種津貼 在你的頭腦中的事實，你也釋放 他們是不死的。

That's the way I look at it.

我就是這麼看的。

You're doing them a favor.

你是在幫他們的忙。

You're doing them.

你在做他們。

Yeah.

是啊。

They don't want to be looking for food.

他們不希望是尋找食物。

You know, the fact that they seem upset when you kill them doesn't make any sense.

你知道嗎，你殺他們的時候，他們似乎很不高興，這沒有任何意義。

But we'll work on that.

但我們會努力的。

How does it work?

它是如何工作的？

Because all of us is.

因為我們所有人都是。

You can tell I'm here in an abandoned theater.

你可以告訴我這裡是在一個廢棄的劇院裡。

You look too.

你看起來也是。

I think you broke into an abandoned theater you broke into, and we both broke into these theaters to meet each other for this illicit tryst.

我想，你闖進了你闖進的廢棄影院，我們都闖進了這些影院，來滿足對方的這種非法的試探。

Uh, I'm curious.

呃，我很好奇。

I know what it's like working during covid.

我知道在科維德期間工作是什麼感覺。

It is very strange, but it's pretty simple.

這很奇怪，但很簡單。

I talked to you on Zoom.

我在Zoom上跟你說過了

I do.

我是這麼想的

Some comedy on Zoom were.

一些關於Zoom的喜劇被。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

How do you do this show during covid?

你怎麼在科維德期間做這個節目？

I mean, you're constantly surrounded by zombie extras.

我的意思是，你經常被殭屍臨時演員包圍。

People dressed as zombies.

人們打扮成殭屍。

Have they all been tested?

都測試過了嗎？

Yeah, they've been very compliant, actually.

是的，他們一直很守規矩，其實。

The zombies they've been, uh, all negative for covid positive.

他們的殭屍，呃，都是陰性的科維德陽性。

Still for zombie, that's been really good at, uh, playing along with all of our covid protocol.

還是對殭屍來說，這真的很好，呃，配合我們所有的covid協議。

Um, it is just a trip to because everybody when this all started their like, Lauren, I don't know what to do.

嗯，這只是一個旅行，因為每個人都 當這一切開始他們的喜歡，勞倫，我不知道該怎麼辦。

She's been she's lived through a zombie apocalypse for 10 years.

她已經... ...她已經經歷了10年的殭屍啟示錄。

And I'd love to say that everybody was joking, I really think.

我很想說，大家都在開玩笑，我真的覺得。

And I said, I'm going on Amazon and buying bottled water just like the rest of you.

我說，我要去亞馬遜上買瓶裝水，就像你們其他人一樣。

Yes, I know it's so funny that I hadn't thought of this before hand, but, uh, your show really is about the spreading of this virus and people turning into zombies.

是的，我知道這很有趣，我之前沒有想到這一點，但是，呃，你的節目真的是關於這種病毒的傳播和人們變成殭屍。

It makes covid look just downright boring.

這讓covid看起來簡直無聊透頂。

Um, but it's so weird to me that you have all these people dressed up hundreds of extras dressed up like zombies who've caught this virus, and then they all have to get nasal swabs to test before they can shoot a scene.

嗯，不過我覺得很奇怪，你讓這些人把幾百個臨時演員打扮得像殭屍一樣，他們都感染了這種病毒，然後他們都要拿鼻腔拭子去檢測，才能拍戲。

Okay, you're a zombie, but you're you don't have covid so you can come on through.

好吧，你是一個殭屍，但你是你沒有covid 所以你可以通過來。

Um, I know you're probably aware that I I got to, uh, to become friendly with your former costar.

嗯，我知道你可能知道，我... ...我和你以前的搭檔成為朋友。

Yes, Steven Yeun.

是的，Steven Yeun。

And, uh, he and I had a great trip to Korea together, and I got to see up close what a terrific guy he is.

而且，呃，他和我有一個偉大的旅行 韓國在一起， 我有看到近距離 他是一個了不起的傢伙。

And, um, we had this really nice experience, but you guys made it very special for him when he was leaving the show.

而且，嗯，我們有這個非常好的經驗， 但你們讓它非常特別的他 當他離開節目。

You you went to a lot of trouble.

你你去了很多麻煩。

You and your cast mates went to a lot of trouble, too.

你和你的劇組夥伴們也費了不少心思。

Sort of make it an occasion.

算是把它當做一個場合吧。

Well, it's no trouble.

好吧，這不麻煩。

It's It was the moment that I think we are.

這是我認為我們的時刻。

Still, that was still the hottest goodbye we've ever had on this show.

不過，這仍然是我們在這個節目中最熱門的告別。

I won't even talk about it too much because it's interesting because his son being back his son, his his on screen son has brought up so many memories for everybody of Stephen being here.

我甚至不會談論太多，因為這很有趣，因為他的兒子回來了，他的兒子，他的他的銀幕上的兒子給大家帶來了很多關於斯蒂芬在這裡的回憶。

And, uh, you know, we do these like death dinners for everybody, so we'll have sort of like a civilized thing, and everybody will give my speeches.

而且，呃，你知道，我們做這些 像死亡晚宴的每個人， 所以我們會有排序 像一個文明的事情， 每個人都會給我的演講。

And we knew for Steven and from Michael Cudlitz, who left in the same episode.

我們知道史蒂文和邁克爾-庫德利茨，他在同一集離開。

We wanted to do something extra special.

我們想做一些特別的事情。

Um, and as you guys know, from your K pop days, you and Steve, Steven and I did shoot.

嗯，你們也知道，從你們的K流行音樂時代開始，你和史蒂夫，史蒂文和我就開始拍攝了。

I'll tell the viewers that don't know.

我會告訴不知道的觀眾。

Steven and I did shoot a K pop video together.

我和史蒂文確實一起拍攝了一個K流行視頻。

It took about 24 hours to shoot.

花了大約24小時拍攝。

It nearly killed us.

差點害死我們。

Um and, uh, but I know that that that man loves he loves to dance.

嗯，嗯，但我知道，那個男人喜歡... ...他喜歡跳舞。

He loves to sing.

他喜歡唱歌。

He's really into it.

他真的很喜歡。

Yeah, he is really into it.

是的，他真的很喜歡。

And we basically got together, and all the girls sort of thought we might have been denies.

我們基本上在一起，所有的女孩都認為我們可能被拒絕了。

Idea, actually.

想法，其實。

And we just thought, What's the best way that we can sort of send these guys off?

我們只是想，什麼是最好的方式 我們可以排序的這些傢伙送行？

And so we had a party at our producer's house and we all disappear to go and get our costumes on and learn like the final pieces of are absolutely atrocious dance routine to slowly re enter the house one by one, verse by verse to perform Backstreet Boys.

所以我們在我們的製作人家裡開了個派對 我們都消失了，去穿上我們的服裝，學著最後一段絕對糟糕的舞步，慢慢地重新進入房子，一節一節地表演后街男孩。

I want it that way.

我想這樣。

And Stephen was actually crying.

而斯蒂芬居然哭了。

We were dressed up as Michael Cudlitz character with orange moustache is an orange wig.

我們打扮成邁克爾-庫德利茨的角色，橙色的小鬍子是一個橙色的假髮。

I have the picture.

我有圖片。

I have the picture right here.

我有圖片就在這裡。

I have you guys.

我有你們。

Someone took a picture, and I've never seen this video and everything allowed to show the video.

有人拍了一張照片，我從來沒有見過這個視頻，一切允許播放視頻。

Yeah, you're not allowed to show the video.

是啊，你不允許顯示的視頻。

And, uh but I thought this was a rare photo behind the scenes.

而且，呃，但我覺得這是一張難得的幕後照片。

If you guys saying goodbye to Stephen, uh, and his character, Glenn, And you're all dressed as Backstreet Boys.

如果你們在跟Stephen和他的角色Glenn告別 你們都穿成了后街男孩的樣子 If you guys saying goodbye to Stephen, uh, and his character, Glenn, and you're all dressed as Backstreet Boys.

But you've added, um, you've added orange moustache is which is a beautiful added orange rosette.

但你加了，嗯，你加了橙色的小鬍子是哪一個美麗的加了橙色的玫瑰花。

Just so where Abraham And that that T shirt is a photo that Stephen took his favorite zombie on the show.

只是讓亞伯拉罕和那件T恤是Stephen在節目中拍的他最喜歡的殭屍的照片。

And it's the zombie, just like sparking a cigarette and smoking, which is one of the best things on on our set.

而且是殭屍，就像點菸抽菸一樣，這是我們片場最好的事情之一。

It's like seeing a zombie and a Dr Pepper or zombie bathing Or just like the most random things That they'll do that.

這就像看到一個殭屍和一個辣椒博士 或殭屍洗澡 或只是喜歡最隨機的事情 他們會做的。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

You guys have had such adventures, You and Stephen.

你們有這樣的冒險，你和斯蒂芬。

I mean, you're you're spot.

我的意思是，你... ...你的位置。

Yeah, we went to a spa together.

是啊，我們一起去了一個溫泉。

We were we were We were naked together at a spa, a wee spot here in Los Angeles, And, um, he took me and, uh, he said you're going to have an experience.

我們一起在洛杉磯的一個溫泉浴場裸體，他帶著我，他說你要去體驗一下。

He took me to the spa and and he also he's That's the night he stole my heart.

他帶我去了溫泉，他也... ...他也... ...那晚他偷走了我的心。

And, uh, we had a really intense time.

而且，呃，我們有一個非常激烈的時間。

That was before we went to Korea together.

那是在我們一起去韓國之前。

So that's how it starts.

所以就這樣開始了。

When men go to a spa together and they spend some time with each other's bodies, it ends up with them traveling around the world together.

當男人們一起去泡溫泉時，他們會花一些時間在對方的身體上，最後他們會一起環遊世界。

Let's take this to the next level, please Wait.

讓我們把這個帶到下一個層次，請等待。

Yes.

是的，我知道

I'm just glad that he was okay with it.

我只是很高興他能接受。

Because, um, have you thought about this?

因為，嗯，你有沒有想過這個問題？

How would you like the walking dead to end?

你希望行屍走肉如何收場？

Have you thought about what you need?

你想好自己需要什麼了嗎？

You've spent such a big piece of your life with his character and in this reality And now with it coming to a close, do you think about what would you like to happen?

你在他的性格和現實中度過了這麼大的一段時光 現在一切都要結束了，你想過會發生什麼嗎？

I would like for there to be a cure.

我希望能有一個治療方法。

And maybe my mind has changed since we've been going through covid.

也許我的想法已經改變了，因為我們一直在經歷covid。

But I would love for their for Maggie's character not to die by Zombie.

但我希望Maggie的角色不要被殭屍殺死。

And for there to just be some sort of slow reveal of this return to normalcy.

而對於有隻是某種緩慢的揭示這種恢復正常的。

Um, you sort of like, find her in her house, just listening to dire straits and 85 years old.

嗯，你有點像，發現她在她的房子， 只是聽著可怕的條紋和85歲。

And there's like, some more kids and, I don't know, a couple of German shepherds, I don't know, but I I definitely I just kind of feel like it would be nice for Don't get me wrong.

還有像，一些更多的孩子和， 我不知道，一對夫婦的德國牧羊犬， 我不知道，但我絕對，我只是一種感覺 這將是不錯的，不要誤會我的意思。

I have definitely imagined, you know, Rick returning and machine returning and the real kinds of things that would happen.

我肯定想象過，你知道的，瑞克回來了，機器回來了，還有真正的各種事情會發生。

But I'd love to see some cozy, you know, maybe some people knitting.

但我很想看到一些舒適的，你知道，也許有人在編織。

Yeah, it would be nice if it chilled out at the end that I'm with you.

是啊，如果最後能冷下來就好了，我和你一樣。

And as much as I've enjoyed the carnage, I think the idea that or else bring modern politics into it So that, um, there are zombie deniers, people that don't think it's a real real virus, and it's free.

雖然我很喜歡這場屠殺，我認為這個想法， 否則把現代政治，所以，嗯，有殭屍否認者， 人們不認為這是一個真正的真正的病毒， 它是免費的。

I want to say that might kind of be the b the vibe this year.

我想說的是，這可能是今年的一種b的氛圍。

Maybe not quite as explicitly, but we're definitely taking an opportunity our writers to to let to let the world and inform the show.

也許不是很明確，但我們絕對是在利用一個機會，我們的編劇，讓讓世界和資訊的顯示。

They always have.

他們總是這樣

But I feel like I feel like it's an exciting year.

但我覺得我覺得這是一個令人興奮的一年。

We know where we're sending off the show and and a lot of people are watching.

我們知道我們要把節目送到哪裡去，而且很多人都在看。

That's really exciting.

這真的很令人興奮。

You know what I love the first time I talk to you?

你知道我第一次跟你說話喜歡什麼嗎？

I really enjoyed talking to you.

我真的很喜歡和你說話。