One of the tough games was Spain game Europe, Like 17.

其中一場艱難的比賽是西班牙比賽歐洲，像17。

They cut it like one or two, and then you guys went on a run and close them out at the end.

他們砍了一兩下，然後你們就去跑，最後把他們關了。

And that's where I think, really That time and place was when the conversation started to get serious about, you know, with LeBron James with Dwayne.

而這正是我認為，真正的時間和地點 是當談話開始變得嚴重 關於，你知道，與勒布朗-詹姆斯與德維恩。

Chris Bosch was obviously there.

Chris Bosch顯然在那裡

You're there about can we?

你在那裡，我們可以嗎？

Can we do this in the N B A?

我們可以在N B A做這個嗎？

Is there a way that we can play together?

有沒有辦法讓我們一起玩？

And all of a sudden, here comes 2000 and 10 and those guys were working on the Miami thing or initially?

突然間，2000年和10年就來了，這些人是在邁阿密的事情上還是最初？

I mean, there were other options.

我的意思是，還有其他選擇。

There was like, maybe it would be New York.

有喜歡，也許會是紐約。

Maybe would be Chicago, but it's gonna be Miami.

也許會是芝加哥，但會是邁阿密。

But you had signed when those guys had done four years with a player option.

但你籤的時候，那些人已經做了四年的球員選項。

You had done five with a player option and you got left out of it.

你做了5個球員選項，你被排除在外了。

I think looking back, is there any doubt in your mind, the Big Three in Miami would have been LeBron d Wade in Melo.

我想回過頭來看，你心裡有沒有懷疑，邁阿密的三巨頭會是勒布朗d韋德在梅羅。

Well, it probably wouldn't depend.

嗯，這可能不會取決於。

It probably wouldn't end.

可能不會結束。

It came up like that.

它是這樣出現的。

It probably would have been me and LeBron somewhere and d Wade and Bosh somewhere, right?

可能會是我和勒布朗在什麼地方，韋德和波什在什麼地方吧？

Like it was always, you know, after that, the talk Waas You know where we going, like, where can we go, like, where could we partner up at?

就像它總是，你知道，在那之後，談華斯，你知道我們要去哪裡，比如，我們可以去哪裡，比如，我們可以在哪裡合作？

What could we team up at, You know, like this is too good that we want this feeling forever.

我們可以在什麼地方合作，你知道，就像這太好了，我們希望這種感覺永遠。

Like we want to experience playing with other great players like we want that.

就像我們想要體驗和其他偉大的球員一起打球一樣，我們想要這樣。

Where can we go?

我們能去哪裡？

You know, it was it was options.

你知道，這是... ...這是選擇。

There was a lot of options out.

有很多選擇出來。

There was a lot of conversations out there and, you know, and and at this time, you also you start throwing Chris Paul into the mix.

有很多對話在那裡和，你知道，並在這個時候，你也你開始拋出克里斯-保羅進入混合。

Now it's like, you know, it's all of these conversations was had and, you know, it was just random random conversations.

現在，它就像，你知道， 它的所有這些對話是有 而且，你知道，這只是隨機 隨機對話。

But it was like, What would that be like?

但當時就想，那會是什麼樣子呢？

Because for so long, so long Prior to that, the MBA awas everybody had their own team, you know, way wasn't teaming up with nobody.

因為在那之前的很長一段時間裡，MBA是每個人都有自己的團隊，你知道的，沒有和任何人合作的方式。

You know, it was I had Denver.

你知道，這是我有丹佛。

Brown had Cleveland the way Miami.

布朗有克利夫蘭的方式邁阿密。

You know, C p was in New Orleans, AI Philly.

你知道，C P在新奧爾良，AI費城。

You know, T man kills like every Kobe Lakers.

要知道，T男的殺傷力就像每一個科比湖人隊。

Everybody had their own teams, so nobody was really teaming up like that.

每個人都有自己的團隊，所以沒有人真正像這樣組隊。

So that was a part that was a part of my decision making and not signing a shorter term deal because I was out of all of us.

所以這也是我做決定的一部分，沒有簽下較短期限的合約，因為我是我們所有人中的一員。

At that moment, I felt the most comfortable in the most confident in my situation in Denver, we were winning.

那一刻，我對自己在丹佛的處境感到最舒服最自信，我們贏了。

We were having, you know, some with some success.

我們有，你知道，一些與一些成功。

And we were We were building off previous years, So it was like, No, I'm not.

我們是在前幾年的基礎上發展起來的，所以就像，不，我不是。

I didn't want to sign a five year.

我不想籤五年的合同。

I mean, signed a three year deal with the option.

我是說，簽了三年的合約，還有選擇權。

No, I wanna I wanna be here long term, like, this is my team.

不，我想... ...我想長期在這裡，就像，這是我的團隊。

This is my organization.

這是我的組織。

This is my city.

這是我的城市。

I wanna be here long term.

我想在這裡長期待下去

And that was my thinking at that point in time.

這也是我當時的想法。

But also I didn't understand the business of the game.

但我也不瞭解遊戲的業務。

You know, I didn't understand what really going into a lockout mean that next year or, you know, get into a team or signing signing a three year deal as opposed to a 45 year deal Being a free agent.

你知道，我不明白什麼真正進入禁賽的意思，明年或，你知道，進入一個團隊或簽署一個三年的協議，而不是一個45年的協議作為一個自由球員。

I didn't understand that information.

我不明白這些資訊。

I didn't I didn't fathom that.

我不... ...我不明白。

When you're talking about that in Oh, wait.

當你說到這一點，在哦，等待。

Would Kobe ever be involved in any of those conversations that he even?

科比會不會參與到這些對話中，他甚至？

Was he commenting on listening to the Oh, I was the only one in the West, right?

他是在評論聽哦，西方只有我一個人吧？

So it was I was always connected some way somehow the Lakers some way somehow.

所以是我總是以某種方式聯繫著湖人隊某種方式。

And it was, you know, it was conversations off.

而這是，你知道，這是對話的關。

Oh, come on.

哦，來吧。

Like you wanna come to the legs of what?

就像你要來的腿是什麼？

Like it was, you know, it was it was that like, let's make this happen.

就像它，你知道，它是 它是喜歡，讓我們做到這一點。

And it was just like, I don't think I could do it because we fight.

它只是喜歡，我不認為我可以做到這一點，因為我們戰鬥。

We battle each other.

我們互相戰鬥。

Every single mean like we fighting each other every night.

每一個人都像我們每晚都在互相爭鬥。

We having battles, I don't know If I don't know if I could do that.

我們有戰鬥，我不知道 如果我不知道，如果我可以做到這一點。

I don't know if l A is actually on the radar at that point.

我不知道那時候l A是否真的在雷達上。

I don't know if nobody was on the radar at that time when you think back to it?

回想起來，不知道當時有沒有人關注？

If it played out that way, where D Wade and Bosch went somewhere and you and LeBron paired up?

如果是這樣，D韋德和波什去了哪裡，你和勒布朗搭檔？

Where do you think it would have been?

你覺得會在哪裡？

Honestly, I don't I don't know, man.

老實說，我不... 我不知道，夥計。

I don't know.

我不知道。

It could have been New York, you know, it could have been No, it could have been New York.

它可能是紐約，你知道，它可能是 不，它可能是紐約。

Um, I didn't see no other place of us of us going.

嗯，我沒有看到其他地方的我們我們去。

Um, it could have been Miami.

嗯，它可能是邁阿密。

You know, we we all could have went down there to Miami.

你知道，我們... ...我們都可以去邁阿密。

I don't know if there was, you know, it could have been away with all four of us.

我不知道是否有，你知道，它可能已經離開了我們四個人。

Could have got to Miami.

本來可以去邁阿密的。

Um, Wade had to take pay cuts.

嗯，韋德不得不降薪。

But I think at that point in time, you know, those guys took pay cuts.

但我覺得在那個時候，你知道，那些人都減薪了。

Anyway, At that point in time, it was just like what?

總之，在那個時候，就像什麼？

What's the numbers look like?

數字是什麼樣子的？

You know, could we really do this or not?

你知道，我們到底能不能做到這一點？

So I don't I don't know where we were ended up that I just don't know.

所以我不我不知道我們在哪裡結束了，我只是不知道。

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