Bugger.

討厭

Yeah, Green.

對，格林

I think it's a bit of an over reaction because I don't think it's something that we've ever seen done.

我覺得這有點反應過度了，因為我不認為這是我們見過的事情。

Now we're talking about him in three years, winning two Super Bowls, two Super Bowl MVPs, one regular season season, M v p and then just walking off on and already understanding where he could go.

現在我們在談論他在三年內，贏得兩個超級碗，兩個超級碗MVP，一個常規賽賽季，M v p，然後只是走在上，已經明白他可以去哪裡。

Maybe down the road.

也許在路上。

But if he just drops the mic right there, it's gonna be close green.

但如果他把話筒丟在那裡，那就會很危險。

But I wouldn't put him in the Hall of Fame knowing how these people vote.

但我不會把他送進名人堂，因為我知道這些人的投票方式。

Understand this?

明白了嗎？

Terrell Owens put up crazy numbers.

特雷爾-歐文斯打出了瘋狂的數據。

Maybe it maybe, at worst, the top three receiver of all time, and they waited for him to get in.

也許也許，最壞的情況是，史上前三的接盤俠，他們等著他進場。

I think Patrick Mahomes is great.

我覺得帕特里克-馬霍姆斯很不錯。

He's outstanding.

他很出色

But Greenlee, you always say never, never make a lot of money betting on something that's never been done.

但是格林裡，你總是說千萬不要，千萬不要在沒有做過的事情上賭一把，賺大錢。

Okay, putting somebody in the Hall of Fame after four years has never been done.

好吧，把某人在四年後的名人堂從來沒有做過。

So how are we gonna automatically say as a shoe in that, even though he's been so great that we could put him in.

所以我們怎麼會自動說作為一個鞋在那，即使他已經如此偉大，我們可以把他。

I know we think he is, but I just don't know greeny.

我知道我們認為他是，但我就是不知道格林。

Here's why it isn't I get it, and I hear you.

這就是為什麼我不明白，我聽懂了。

But Luis Riddick, Here's my argument.

但路易斯-瑞迪克，這是我的論點。

Here's why it isn't crazy, because I think I'm the oldest person in this conversation.

這就是為什麼它不瘋狂的原因，因為我認為我是這個對話中年齡最大的人。

So I've been watching the sport, going back to when the best quarterbacks where Terry Bradshaw and Roger Starbuck I've seen every great quarterback in the NFL the last 50 years.

所以我一直在觀察這項運動， 回到最好的四分衛特里・佈雷德肖和羅傑・斯塔巴克的時候 我看到了過去50年裡NFL的每一個偉大的四分衛。

There's just something different going on here, Okay, so whether he would be a Hall of Famer Monday or not aside, is there just something different?

只是有一些不同的東西在這裡，好吧，所以他是否會成為一個名人堂週一或不之外，只是有一些不同的東西？

Lewis?

劉易斯？

Is it accurate to say there was something going on here with Patrick Mahomes that we have literally never seen in the sport before?

如果說帕特里克-馬霍姆斯在這裡發生了一些我們在運動中從未見過的事情，是否準確？

Absolutely, absolutely.

當然，絕對的。

Look four years ago, I remember sitting on SportsCenter after having talked to the people down in Kansas City, and you know how I have great relationships with him down there.

四年前，我記得我坐在體育中心，在和堪薩斯城的人談過之後，你知道我和他在那裡的關係有多好。

And this was before he had even taken a snap in a game.

而這是在他還沒有參加比賽之前。

This was when he was just going through OT agent rookie minicamp I remember talking to Brett Beach, the general manager, and he said, Lou, listen to me.

這是他剛經歷加時賽經紀人新秀迷你訓練營的時候，我記得和總經理佈雷特-海灘聊過，他說，盧，聽我說。

This young man is doing stuff in practice that is making us go.

這個年輕人在實踐中做的事情，是讓我們去。

What have we stumbled on here?

我們在這裡遇到了什麼？

Stumbled upon here and look, they knew they had something special.

偶然發現這裡，一看，他們就知道有特別的東西。

They didn't know it was gonna be this special, though, but they knew that they had something that was that.

雖然他們不知道會這麼特別，但他們知道，他們的東西就是這樣。

There was something that they had never seen before.

有一些東西是他們從未見過的。

That something that Andy had never seen before.

那是安迪從未見過的東西。

And that's why they couldn't wait toe unveil him.

所以他們才會迫不及待地揭開他的面紗。

The following year, after Alex Smith was then traded to the Washington football team, they knew they had something special.

第二年，在亞歷克斯-史密斯隨後被交易到華盛頓橄欖球隊後，他們知道他們有一些特別的東西。

But again, to go back to the original point of this discussion is Look, I think greatness in the Hall of Fame is supposed to be really reward longevity as well, because, look, the great Tiger Woods has said this recently.

但是，再回到這個討論的原點是，你看，我認為名人堂的偉大應該是真的獎勵長壽也，因為，你看，偉大的泰格-伍茲最近就說過這句話。

There's a lot of people, man who can flash at you for a year, maybe two, maybe a tournament, maybe a six month stretch.

有很多人，人可以在你這裡閃一年，也許是兩年，也許是一場比賽，也許是半年。

And I understand.

我也明白

Look for Patrick we're talking about for three years.

找帕特里克，我們談了三年。

But can you do it for a decade?

但你能做十年嗎？

Can you do it for 89 10 years and really say I belong with the all time greats, not because I have unique talent off the like switch this league has never seen.

你能不能做到89年10年，真的說我屬於歷史上的偉大人物，而不是因為我有獨特的天賦關喜歡開關這個聯盟從來沒有見過。

But because I did it again and again and again, like the quarterback who's on the other is gonna be on the other side of the football field on Sunday.

但因為我一次又一次地做了，就像四分衛誰在另一個是會在另一邊的足球場上週日。

Who's done it again and again.

是誰一而再，再而三的做。

And then when people told him he was hitting the cliff and he was too old, he did it again.

然後當人們告訴他，他在打懸崖，他太老了，他又打了。

Then he went to another football team and he's doing it again.

然後他去了另一支足球隊，他又在做。

That's what to me is what the Hall of Fame supposed to be about.

對我來說，這才是名人堂的意義所在。

But there's no doubt Patrick's one of the best to ever do it, if not the very best toe ever, lace them up and play this position, period.

但毫無疑問，帕特里克是有史以來最好的之一，如果不是有史以來最好的腳趾，繫上它們，打這個位置，期間。

I can't argue with any of that so dominate.

我無法反駁任何一個，所以霸氣十足。

Maybe what it comes down to is that many of us, including R.

也許歸根結底是我們很多人，包括R。

C, are just trying to figure out ways to describe what we're seeing.

C，只是在想辦法描述我們看到的東西。

You're trying to come up with some way to accurately capture what we're all watching because we can all tell it something special.

你是想用某種方法來準確地捕捉我們都在看的東西，因為我們都能看出它的特別之處。

I for the life of me can't figure out how to explain it and give it the credit that it clearly deserves.

我一輩子都不知道該怎麼解釋，給它明顯應得的榮譽。

We've been falling over ourselves, complimenting him for the past three years, and it still doesn't feel like enough.

過去三年，我們一直在落井下石，誇獎他，但還是覺得不夠。

That's why our seats said what he said yesterday, and that's why I don't think it's absurd and I understand the things about longevity.

所以我們的座席才會說他昨天說的話，所以我覺得這並不荒唐，我理解長壽的事情。

But you also have to understand the things that get people in the Hall of Fame when Luescher said is right.

但你也要明白，讓人進名人堂的事情，當呂歇爾說是對的。

But there's only one time Brady.

但只有一次布雷迪。

There are a lot of guys in the Hall of Fame that have not had the full careers that Patrick Mahomes has had in just these three seasons.

名人堂裡有很多人，都沒有帕特里克-馬霍姆斯在這三個賽季就擁有完整的職業生涯。

Last year alone in the playoffs, he had three games.

僅去年季後賽，他就有三場。

That would have been all time, great games for a bunch of guys who are in the Hall of Fame.

那將是所有的時間，偉大的遊戲的一群人誰是在名人堂。

So it's hard when the analytics tell us he's great, are kind of regular fan eyes.

所以當分析告訴我們他很厲害的時候，是很難的，都是那種普通球迷的眼光。

Tell us he's great.

告訴我們，他是偉大的。

The film junkies tell us he's great.

電影迷們告訴我們他很棒。

It's hard to figure out a way to say how great he is, other than like jumping to extreme hyperbole.

除了像跳到極端的誇張之外，很難說出他有多偉大。

Like Ryan said, he's gonna be in the Hall of Fame if he retires, there is.

就像瑞恩說的，他如果退役，就會進入名人堂，有。

We just We just can't figure out a word or phrase to embody all of this, and it's kind of mind blowing.

我們只是... ...我們只是無法找出一個詞或短語 來體現這一切， 它是一種心靈的震撼。

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所以，感謝你在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

Subscribe to ESPN, plus.

訂閱ESPN，加。