And, um, I actually, uh, got vory wrapped up in it.

而且，嗯，我實際上，呃，得到了vory包裹起來。

It's a fantastic idea for show.

這是一個奇妙的想法，顯示。

And one of my favorite things about this show is how, um, your character, this this judge is a very decent, you know, is very decent person with a very strong moral code who has to make these decisions to save his son.

我最喜歡的事情之一 關於這個節目是如何，嗯，你的角色， 這個法官是一個非常體面的， 你知道，是非常體面的人 與一個非常強大的道德準則 誰必須做出這些決定 拯救他的兒子。

And so, every step of the way, I understand why you're characters doing what they're doing.

所以，每走一步，我都能理解你的角色為什麼要這樣做。

And at the same time, uh, these air decisions which are go against everything that you believe is right.

同時，呃，這些空氣的決定是違背了一切 你認為是正確的。

That's what got me hooked on this show.

這就是讓我迷上這個節目的原因。

To do it in the first place was that premise of If you really thought your child was in danger of being killed, what would you do to protect him or her and you anything?

當初這麼做的前提是，如果你真的認為你的孩子有被殺的危險，你會怎麼做來保護他或她和你什麼？

Everything.

一切的一切。

And I talked to any parent.

而且我和任何一個家長都談過。

They said, Yeah, I would become a criminal.

他們說，是的，我會成為一個罪犯。

I would end that.

我將結束這一切。

My character is a superior court judge and he does.

我的角色是上級法院的法官，他也是。

He lies to authorities, which is a crime.

他向當局撒謊，這是一種犯罪。

He destroys evidence.

他銷燬了證據。

He creates alibis.

他創造了不在場證明。

He manipulates Juries.

他操縱著陪審團

He's doing whatever he can to keep his son alive.

他不惜一切代價讓他的兒子活下去。

And each step, it's going.

而每一步，都在走。

So against his principles that it's eroding his soul.

所以違背了他的原則，以至於侵蝕了他的靈魂。

It keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper.

不斷深入，不斷深入。

And I also love that it takes place in New Orleans, which to me I would want toe if I was ever involved in some showbiz venture.

我也喜歡它發生在新奧爾良，對我來說，如果我曾經參與一些娛樂圈的企業，我會想去。

And they said, Pick a city where it's gonna happen I might choose New Orleans just for the food alone.

他們說，選一個要發生的城市，我可能會選擇新奧爾良，只是為了食物。

You know that's not gonna happen for you.

你知道這對你來說是不可能的。

Yeah.

是啊。

I mean, you don't think they're not going to say be involved in an entertainment program of some sort?

我的意思是，你不認為他們不會說參與某種娛樂節目嗎？

I don't think I think you've shot your wad here.

我不認為我認為你在這裡已經射出了你的廢物。

I think I'm doing really well, Brian.

我想我做得很好，布萊恩。

Thank you.

謝謝你了

I talked till I'm blue in the face.

我一直說到臉色發青。

And how has it been for you all these years, my friend?

這些年你過得怎麼樣，我的朋友？

Where you have tow, you have to walk that line between being supportive and being sycophantic.

在你有拖的地方，你必須走在支持和諂媚之間的那條線。

You don't wanna be an ass kisser, but you you have tow, you have to support him.

你不想當個拍馬屁的，但你... ...你必須支持他。

But have you ever really just come out and told the truth about a monologue that he did and said that was terrible?

但是，你有沒有真正的站出來，說出他的一段獨白，說那是可怕的？

Uh, no, I just I just generally not specifically.

呃，不，我只是... ... 我只是一般不具體。

I just generally keep him frightened of me.

我只是一般讓他害怕我。

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

哦，是的，是的，是的。

Andy early on, um, sort of intimated that he had a very violent temper, and he's also physically one of the strongest people I've ever met.

安迪早期，嗯，有點暗示他有一個非常暴力的脾氣，他也是我見過的身體最強壯的人之一。

So the first thing I do every day at work is I come in and I have a pumpkin and I crush it in my hands.

所以，我每天上班的第一件事就是我進來，我有一個南瓜，我把它捏在手裡。

And then we're fine.

然後我們就沒事了。

Yeah.

是啊。

Wow.

哇哦

So I don't mess with Andy also, I will say in Andy's defense, after all these years of working together, he does not lie.

所以我也不惹安迪，我要為安迪辯解一下，這麼多年的合作，他不會說謊。

I've never seen him laugh at something genuinely laugh at something that he didn't think is funny.

我從來沒有見過他對著一件事真心的笑，他覺得不好笑。

And you go back and look at thousands and thousands of hours of late night shows.

你回去看看幾千幾萬小時的深夜節目。

Plenty of times.

很多時候。

He's not laughing thing.

他不是笑的東西。

Yeah, that there have been people who have pointed that out.

是的，已經有人指出了這一點。

Yeah, I'm like after after a segment gone like, man, you weren't much help.

是啊，我喜歡後，後一段走了喜歡，男人，你是沒有多大的幫助。

But I'm like, Yeah, it's so funny because if we have someone great and funny, if a Bryan Cranston's on and he's in there, he's yucking it up.

但我想，是的，它是如此有趣，因為 如果我們有一個偉大的人和有趣的， 如果一個布萊恩・克蘭斯頓的，他在那裡， 他是yucking它。

He's coming up with great things when I've had people on that air giving me nothing, And he leans back, crosses his legs and just says, Your it's your plane and it's going down.

他想出了很多好辦法 當我讓人在空中什麼都不給我的時候，他靠在後面，翹起二郎腿，說："這是你的飛機，它要墜落了。

Good luck to you and afterwards I'll be like, What the hell?

祝你好運，事後我會說，搞什麼鬼？

And he's like, Hey, you know, what do you want me to dio get?

他說，嘿，你知道，你想讓我做什麼？

Might get my hands dirty, trying to help you and that's it.

可能會弄髒我的手，試圖幫助你，僅此而已。

You did ask me to stop wiggling.

你確實讓我不要再扭動了。

Yeah, that came to it.

是啊，這就來了。

And yeah, that's I understand that now I do.

是的，那是我現在才明白的。

You know, I know that you think it's unlikely that I will become a serious actor of great renowned, but I did mean what I said.

你知道，我知道你認為我不可能成為一個正兒八經的大名鼎鼎的演員，但我說的是真心話。

I would want to be in New Orleans.

我想在新奧爾良。

Are you eating the food?

你在吃東西嗎？

Because I see there was one episode I saw were having this giant shrimp dinner, and and it looks fantastic.

因為我看到有一集我看到的是有一個巨大的蝦的晚餐，和和它看起來太棒了。

And I'm thinking, Are you eating that food or you one of those actors that pretends I always eat the food that's get on a set even when I'm not supposed t o I.

我在想，你是在吃那些食物，還是你是那些假裝我總是吃食物的演員之一，即使在我不應該吃的時候。

That's always been a pet peeve of mine to see a scene.

這一直是我看戲的一個小毛病。

It's Thanksgiving dinner or something, and people are kind of pushing around the food and no one's really eating and everybody's like Ha ha ha!

這是感恩節晚餐什麼的，和人們是那種推來推去的食物，沒有人真正吃，每個人都像哈哈哈！

It was like, I don't believe that, Yeah, I mean, part of part of creating a dramatic interpretation of of a scenario is to be a really is possible.

這就像，我不相信， 是啊，我的意思是，部分的部分 創建一個戲劇性的解釋 一個場景是真的是可能的。

Eat the food and so you'll see me chowing down.

吃飯，所以你會看到我在吃東西。

That was really shrimp.

那真的是蝦米。

And we're dipping in the sauce, somewheres hotter than others.

而我們蘸著醬料，有些地方比其他地方更熱。

Your eyes are watering.

你的眼睛在流淚。

It was it was great.

它是... ...它是偉大的。

It was one of my pet peeves about Jon Cryer, who I love.

這是我對喬恩-克萊爾的一個小癖好，我喜歡他。

I love Jon Cryer, who doesn't love Jon Cryer.

我喜歡喬恩-克萊爾，誰不喜歡喬恩-克萊爾。

Love that guy on.

喜歡那個傢伙上。

I think he's hilarious and a terrific actor.

我覺得他很搞笑，是個了不起的演員。

2.5 men.

2.5名男子。

Any time that shows on and he's eating, I noticed he's just pushing the food and pushing it around.

任何時候，顯示在他吃飯的時候，我發現他只是推著食物，推來推去。

And I, Jon Cryer, eat the food.

而我，喬恩-克萊爾，吃的是食物。

You eat the food when you're doing a scene, that show is gonna go nowhere.

你拍戲的時候吃菜，那戲就沒戲了。

Prediction.

預測。

Now what is your Okay?

現在，你是什麼好？

So you eat the food.

所以你吃的食物。

What about love scenes?

那愛情戲呢？

What's your technique?

你的技術是什麼？

And let's eat the food and love scenes s.

而讓我們吃到美食和愛情的場景s。

I've noticed that whenever you have a sex scene and throughout your career, you are always You've got food on the night stand food, and you're taking a lot of breaks to eat.

我注意到，每當你有一場性愛戲，在你的整個職業生涯中，你總是你的夜宵攤上的食物，你經常休息吃。

Food.

食物。

Whipped cream, strawberries.

鮮奶油，草莓。

Yeah, I wanna be authentic.

是啊，我想成為真實的。

So I have to go to my partner and say we really have to have sex now or we're liars or we are just Charlottenburg on.

所以我得去找我的伴侶，說我們現在真的要做愛了，否則我們就是金光黨，或者我們就是夏洛滕堡上。

How's that go over several lawsuits, which I can't talk about.

這怎麼過幾場官司，我不能說。

I've still got my fingers crossed.

我仍然有我的手指交叉。

It's gonna work someday.

總有一天會成功的

Uh, you know, I very much I'm a fan of the show, Your Honor, and very happy for you that it is such an excellent show.

呃，你知道，我非常... ...我是這個節目的粉絲，你的榮譽，併為你感到非常高興，這是一個如此優秀的節目。

Um, I wanted to show a clip from the show and then it turns out, Well, here's the problem, because it it's it's behind its Apparently I'm not allowed to show a clip Way went to get a clip.

嗯，我想顯示一個片段 從節目中，然後它變成了， 好了，這裡的問題，因為它的 它的背後，顯然我不允許 顯示一個片段的方式去得到一個片段。

They said we can't release a clip to you.

他們說我們不能給你放片子。

I said, It's me, Conan O'Brien.

我說，是我，柯南-奧布萊恩。

They that anyone but Conan answer that that thing.

除了柯南，他們誰都可以回答那件事。

I hate hearing that.

我討厭聽到這個。

I actually did try that.

其實我也試過了。

We tried to get a clip.

我們試圖得到一個片段。

My producer called me and he said, No, they won't release a clip from Your Honor.

我的製作人打電話給我，他說，不，他們不會發布《你的榮譽》的片段。

It's this new World.

是這個新的世界。

We live in a paywall.

我們生活在一個付費牆裡。

I suppose something's going on.

我想應該是發生了什麼事。

I don't know what it is, so if we way have to show some clip So here we go.

我不知道這是什麼，所以如果我們必須展示一些片段，所以在這裡我們去。

Oh, my God.

哦，我的上帝。

Those air.

這些空氣。

Intense eyes then Michael Vincent.

強烈的眼神，然後邁克爾-文森特。

Yeah, on.

是啊，上。

I think this show again was on for seven e think it was something like that?

我想這個節目又是在七e上，應該是這樣的吧？

Yeah, I know.

是的，我知道。

But you know, it's funny because I talked to you recently.

但你知道，這很有趣，因為我最近和你談過。

Andi was so clear to me when I was talking to that.

安迪在和我說這些的時候，我很清楚。

One of the things you're proudest of is that you have been for many, many years, this journeymen actor.

你最自豪的一件事是，你已經做了很多年，很多年，這個江湖演員。

You have made your living as an actor and I think people just focus on Oh my God, there's this massive hit breaking bad and it's this iconic worldwide phenomenon.

你是以演員為生的，我覺得人們只關注哦，我的上帝，有一個巨大的打擊打破了壞，它是這個標誌性的世界現象。

And what they forget is all the years where you were bad guy number two in in in a show that ran in the eighties, that most people are not even thinking about anymore.

而他們忘了的是，在80年代的一部劇中，你是壞蛋二號，大多數人甚至都不去想了。

And that that is a big part of the trade for people that get into acting that that is it.

而這也是人們進入演藝圈的一個重要部分，就是這樣。

That and you're lucky to get that The transition in that show you're talking about I was very fortunate because I was cast is bad guy number three and I was promoted too bad guy number two.

你說的那部劇中的轉型我很幸運，因為我被選為壞蛋三號，而我也被提升為壞蛋二號。

Uh, what is true is that for an actor, you get those hotel clerk, bus boy, drunken frat boy, all those guys.

呃，什麼是真的，對於一個演員來說，你會得到那些酒店職員，公車上的男孩，醉酒的兄弟會男孩，所有這些傢伙。

And when you finally get a name, it's like, Oh, God, I'm Darryl.

當你終於得到了一個名字， 它就像，哦，上帝，我是達里爾。

I'm Darryl.

我是達里爾。

You know, you're so excited.

你知道嗎，你太興奮了。

If you get a last name, you've made it.

如果你得到一個姓，你就成功了。

You have.

你有。

You have made it, remember?

你已經做到了，還記得嗎？

Last name I am.

我的姓是。

We've made it very clear I am not an actor and never should be an actor.

我們已經說得很清楚了，我不是演員，也不應該成為演員。

But early on, when I first got out to L.

但早在我剛出來到L。

A like in 85 86 um, someone saw me somewhere being amusing and they said, Oh, I recommended you to a casting agent for a Jim Henson show, uh, with not puppets, but with, uh, you know, live performers.

就像在85年86年，有人看到我在某處被逗樂，他們說，哦，我把你推薦給一個選角經紀人，參加吉姆-亨森的演出，呃，不是木偶，而是，呃，你知道，現場表演者。

And I remember that I didn't do nothing about it.

而我記得，我並不是什麼都不做。

And they sent me the sides, the script and, um, the script they sent me had two characters in it, and they didn't tell me which character I was supposed to audition for.

他們給我發了邊，劇本，嗯，他們給我發的劇本里有兩個角色，他們沒有告訴我哪個角色我應該去試鏡。

When I was confused and I said.

當我困惑的時候，我說。

Can you send me the script?

你能把劇本發給我嗎？

Can you send me anything more?

你還能給我寄點什麼嗎？

So they just sent me a sheet that described what each character was and the first one was Dirk.

所以他們就給我發了一張表，描述了每個角色的內容，第一個就是德克。

Every man wants to be him.

每個人都想成為他。

Every woman wants to be with him, and I remember going like It's not Dirk.

每個女人都想和他在一起，我記得我的想法是，這不是德克。

And then on then the second one was like, You know, Gormley And it was like Gormley.

然後，然後第二個是這樣的，你知道，Gormley，它是像Gormley。

He's his goofy is he is nerdy.

他是他的傻子是他的書呆子。

He's a reading skinny doofus who's never once who's never lost his virginity.

他是一個讀書的瘦弱的傻子，從來沒有一次誰失過貞操。

And I was like, It's this guy.

我當時就想，是這個傢伙。

Sure enough, I show up.

果然，我出現了。

How did you know you?

你怎麼認識你的？

I once got said a script and the part that they wanted me to read within the text of the script was like, say, the guy's name was Jerry.

我曾經得到過一個劇本，他們希望我在劇本的文字裡讀到的部分就像，說，那個人的名字叫傑瑞。

Jerry Comma 32 complete piece of shit way thought of you eso what part of I'm a big piece of shit made you think about me way can't just give you the role you understand, because there are other pieces of shit in town that I'm pretty damn thinking.

傑瑞逗號32完整的狗屎方式想你埃索什麼部分我是一個大的狗屎讓你想到我的方式不能只是給你的作用，你明白，因為有其他的狗屎在城裡，我很該死的想法。

I would see the same pieces of shit in every waiting room in town Every time you show up.

每次你出現，我都會在鎮上每個候車室看到同樣的垃圾。

Three other pieces of shit air their shit ball.

另外三塊狗屎空氣他們的狗屎球。

Hey, shit for brains.

嘿，狗屎的大腦。

Hey!

嘿！