WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF "THE DEVIL YOU KNOW," CHARLES

《你所知道的惡魔》的作者查理斯又回來了

BLOW.

吹。

I KNOW THAT YOU GREW UP IN THE SOUTH AND WORKED IN NEW YORK FOR

我知道你在南方長大，並在紐約工作了一段時間

26 YEARS AND NOW YOU'RE BACK IN THE SOUTH.

26年了，現在你又回到了南方。

WHAT HAS THAT MEANT TO YOU, YOUR LIFE AND, WELL, JUST TO THE

這對你，對你的生活，以及對這個世界有什麼意義？

EXPERIENCE OF LIVING FOR YOU TO BE BACK IN THE SOUTH?

經驗的生活為你回到南方？

>> I GREW UP IN ONE OF THOSE MAJORITY BLACK CITIES, RIGHT,

>> 我是在那些黑人佔多數的城市裡長大的，對吧。

AND, SO, COMING BACK TO A PLACE LIKE ATLANTA, I UNDERSTAND IT.

而且，所以，回到亞特蘭大這樣的地方，我明白了。

IT FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE HOME, AND IT FEELS -- BLACK PROSPERITY

它感覺很像家，而且它感覺 -- 黑人繁榮

IS NOT AN ANOMALY.

並非異常。

WHERE IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THE POLICE ARE HUNTING YOU.

凡是感覺不到警察在追捕你的地方。

WHERE IT FEELS LAKE THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE

湖南省政府將在哪裡？

RESPONSIVE TO YOU.

響應你。

THAT'S AN AMAZING FEELING.

那是一種很奇妙的感覺。

WHEN I TELL PEOPLE -- TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT MOVING BACK, THEY

當我告訴人們... ... 跟人們談論回遷，他們...

GIVE ME A WHOLE LITANY OF REASONS WHY THEY MIGHT NOT WANT

給我一大堆他們可能不願意的理由。

TO DO IT.

做到這一點。

I SAY I UNDERSTAND THOSE, AND I HAVE ANOTHER LIST OF WHY YOU

我說我明白這些，我還有另一個清單，說明你為什麼

SHOULD DO IT.

應該做的。

WHAT I'M TELLING THEM IS I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO

我跟他們說的是，我並不是建議你們要去...

MOVE BACK INTO A UTOPIA.

搬回UTOPIA。

IF BLACK MAJORITIES PRODUCE UTOPIAS, EVERY PERSON IN AMERICA

如果黑人多數派生產UTOPIAS，美國每個人都會生產UTOPIAS。

WOULD BE PROSPERING NOW BECAUSE EVERY STATE HAS BEEN MAJORITY

現在會很繁榮，因為每一個州都已經成為了多數。

WHITE.

白：

NO MATTER WHAT -- IF YOU GET A BLACK MAJORITY, YOU'RE STILL

無論什麼 - 如果你得到一個黑人的多數，你仍然是。

GOING TO HAVE POVERTY, FOOD INSECURITY AND INCOME

貧窮、糧食不安全和收入的問題；

INEQUALITY, BUT IN THE AGGREGATE, THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T

不平等，但在大範圍內，不平等的人也有。

HAVE TO LIVE UNDER WHITE SUPREMACY ARE GOING TO DO BETTER

必鬚生活在白人至上主義之下，要做得更好。

THAN THOSE WHO DO.

比那些做。

I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING REGULAR

我只想擁有擁有常規的特權。

WHITE PEOPLE PROBLEMS.

白人的問題。

>> Stephen: WELL, CHARLES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

>> 好了，查爾斯，謝謝你的到來。

HERE.

這裡。

>> THANK YOU.

>> 謝謝你。

I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.

我非常欣賞它。

>> Stephen: THE BOOK IS "THE DEVIL YOU KNOW."

>> 史蒂芬：這本書是 "你所知道的惡魔"。

IS AVAILABLE NOW.

現在可以使用。

CHARLES BLOW, EVERYBODY!

查理斯-布勞，大家快來！

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

我們馬上回來。

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