As you guys move into another week of basketball, why don't we just evaluate this game?

當你們進入另一個星期的籃球賽時，我們為什麼不直接評估這場比賽呢？

I'm not into what?

我不喜歡什麼？

Our next step forward this right now.

我們下一步的發展，這個現在。

We just finished the hard fought game.

我們剛剛結束了這場艱苦的比賽。

I don't know if, like when What?

我不知道如果，像什麼時候？

What?

什麼？

What's your major?

你的專業是什麼？

Yeah.

是啊。

What's your major at Duke?

你在杜克大學學什麼專業？

What's your hardest class?

你最難的課是什麼？

Okay, so say you just had the toughest e con test in the world.

好吧，那就說你剛剛經歷了世界上最難的電子控制測試。

And when you walked out, somebody asked you What's your next step?

當你走出去的時候，有人問你，你的下一步是什麼？

Uh, you see, what I mean is that you have some empathy and Mm, You know, just give us time to evaluate this game, and then we'll figure out just like we always try to dio Jay What he thoughts.

我的意思是，你有一些同情心，你知道，只要給我們時間來評估這個遊戲，然後我們就會發現，就像我們總是試圖迪奧傑的想法。

So, Zubin, I've known Coach K for 23 years since I've been 16 years old and just the preface, these comments, because I know how when these things were said, people become very inflamed about it.

所以，祖斌，我從16歲就認識K教練23年了，只是前言，這些評論，因為我知道當這些事情被說出來的時候，人們會為此變得非常激憤。

I also want people to understand that I have been willing in my career through broadcasting to stand up for what I thought was right.

我也希望大家明白，在我的播音生涯中，我一直願意通過播音站在我認為正確的事情上。

And there were a lot of times, you know, during the Grayson Allen tenure that I felt very uncomfortable because I said that Grace and I was wrong for tripping people.

有很多時候，你知道， 在格雷森艾倫任期內，我覺得很不舒服 因為我說，格雷斯和我是錯誤的絆倒人。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

And going back into Duke was a very uncomfortable situation for me.

而回到杜克大學，對我來說是一個很不舒服的情況。

So I've been willing to stand up for what I when I think Coach K is right where I think Coach K is wrong with certain things.

所以我一直願意在我認為K教練是對的時候，在我認為K教練某些事情是錯的時候，站出來支持我。

I've known this man for almost all my life.

我認識這個人幾乎一輩子了。

I know when he is angry.

我知道他什麼時候生氣。

I know the tone when he is angry.

我知道他生氣時的語氣。

He was not angry when he was speaking to this young man.

他對這個年輕人說話的時候，並沒有生氣。

I think there was a teaching moment that he was trying to insert in.

我想他是想插入一個教學環節。

The analogy actually made sense.

這個比喻其實很有道理。

It was, Hey, I just got my head beat in.

那是，嘿，我剛剛被打得頭破血流。

We lost three games in a row.

我們連輸三場。

This hasn't happened since 2015 16, and I need time to assess what our next steps are, and that comes with watching the tape.

自2015年16日以來，這種情況就沒有發生過，我需要時間來評估我們的下一步是什麼，這就需要看錄像帶。

Now I know people are gonna say, Well, the tone of it, he was, you know, he seemed chippy.

現在我知道人們會說，嗯，它的語氣， 他是，你知道，他似乎氣質。

Well, let's not forget that we're living in a virtual reality world to a degree that was on Zoom.

好吧，別忘了，我們生活在虛擬現實世界中，在一定程度上是在Zoom上。

I think what happened from when I watched the tape is that Coach K asked him a question to try to make this bridge.

我想從我看錄像帶的情況來看，是K教練問了他一個問題，想讓這個橋段。

To build this analogy.

為了建立這個類比。

I didn't hear the young man responded first, Coach K then asked again.

我沒聽到年輕人先反應過來，K教練接著又問。

I didn't hear the young man respond then and then he asked, You know Hey, what's your major?

我當時沒有聽到年輕人的迴應，然後他問，你知道嗎嘿，你是什麼專業的？

You know, what's your most difficult class?

你知道，你最難的課是什麼嗎？

And then I think the young man kind of like, Hey, well, I don't know if he'd impress the mute button, whatever the situation was.

然後我覺得這個年輕人有點像，嘿，好吧，我不知道他是否會打動靜音按鈕，不管是什麼情況。

And I think that's what makes the tone of its sound like Coach K was trying to pick on this young man.

我覺得這才是讓其聽起來像K教練想挑釁這個年輕人的語氣。

I also called Coach K yesterday and spoke to him for about 45 minutes, and he proceeded to tell me, Hey, I didn't want there to be any confusion.

昨天我還打電話給K教練，和他聊了45分鐘，他接著告訴我，嘿，我不想有任何困惑。

I called the young man.

我打電話給那個年輕人。

We spoke for about 30 minutes.

我們談了大約30分鐘。

Uh, you know, he has the right to ask whatever question he wants.

他有權利問任何他想問的問題。

I was just trying to build an analogy so we could understand where I came from.

我只是想打個比方，讓大家明白我的來歷。

And I also say this, you know, look, it would have been easy for coach K to sit up There is a look.

而且我還說，你看，K教練本來很容易坐起來的 有一個眼神。

Let me give you the the stereotypical answer here and say, Well, you know, we didn't play well.

讓我給你一個刻板的答案，說，嗯，你知道，我們打得不好。

We didn't score the ball well, We turned the ball over enough instead of saying, Actually, I don't know what the take away is in the Hall of Fame coach, maybe the greatest coach of all time, And I don't know what the take away is right now because we just lost our third game in the road to a Louisville team that we're in a position to be.

我們沒有很好地得分，我們把球轉過來，而不是說，實際上，我不知道在名人堂的教練，也許是有史以來最偉大的教練，我不知道現在的帶走是什麼，因為我們剛剛在客場輸掉了我們的第三場比賽，我們在路易斯維爾隊的位置上。

And we didn't play well down the stretch.

而我們在最後階段也沒有打好。

So I just don't like when we get into the scenarios where people don't want to take this small thing because of confusion about it and turn into, you know, calling coach cave names that he's a bad person.

所以我只是不喜歡當我們進入這樣的場景，人們不想因為對這件小事的困惑，而變成，你知道的，叫教練洞穴的名字，他是一個壞人。

Look at the work he's done again.

看看他又做了什麼工作。

Once again, the body of work standing up for black lives matter really questioning about Hey, should we be playing basketball right now?

再次，站在黑人生命問題上的作品，真的是在質疑嘿，我們現在應該打籃球嗎？

What are we doing for?

我們是為了什麼？

You know what's in our kids?

你知道我們的孩子體內有什麼嗎？

Best interest?

最佳利益？

I know people want to say Well, you know, ducks down in the top 25.

我知道人們想說 嗯，你知道，鴨子在前25名。

Coach K is and relevant, and it's very easy to use things like this and say, Of course he's gonna be chippy with a young reporter because he's not in the top 25.

K教練是和相關的，很容易用這樣的事情說，他當然會和一個年輕的記者打成一片，因為他不在前25名。

No, none of this stuff matters, okay, He he's gonna be the winningest coach of all time.

不，這些東西都不重要，好吧，他... ...他會成為有史以來最成功的教練。

Moving forward.

前進。

He's gonna be a guy with five national championships.

他將會是一個擁有五個全國冠軍的傢伙。

He's gonna be a Hall of Famer regardless of what happens this year in a pandemic.

不管今年發生什麼流行病，他都會成為名人堂成員。

But I don't think it's wrong.

但我不認為這是錯誤的。

It's right to just jump to conclusions, to assassinate this man's character for everything he stood up right for doing throughout his entire career.

這是對的，只是下結論，暗殺這個人的性格，他站在正確的一切，在他的整個職業生涯中做。

I would agree with you.

我同意你的說法。

I think people sadly, commentary on 2021 is People just sharpen their knives all day long, and now they're just looking for someone to poke.

我覺得大家很悲哀，評論2021年就是大家整天磨刀霍霍，現在就是找人戳。

I would guess that most of the people that air criticizing him absolutely, positively didn't hear the full exchange.

我猜想，大多數人，空中責備他絕對，肯定沒有聽到完整的交流。

They just heard Coach K's answer.

他們剛聽到K教練的回答。

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