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  • INTERVIEW 7: Catching Demons

    Desteni呈獻-跨次元門戶之歷史(7):捕捉邪靈

  • And then there was the one demon.

    而之後有一個邪靈

  • Now this was the scary one.

    現在這是很嚇人的一個

  • This one was one that got me a little bit afraid to even sleep at night with my light off.

    這一個讓我- 甚至在睡覺時關燈- 還是有點害怕

  • This huge, big demon that kind of rose up in front of me, up into the roof.

    這一個巨大、大型的邪靈- 像是在我面前升起,直到屋頂

  • It was black, very gaunt.

    它是黑色、削瘦的

  • It looked like a very old vampire that had been dead for ages. It was so scary.

    這看起來像一個死去多年的老吸血鬼,它很嚇人

  • It was like coming out, and rising up and I wanted to catch it,

    它像是出現,並升起- 而我意圖抓住它

  • but I was too afraid to put it inside me. So it would just disappear.

    但我過於害怕將其放入我之中,所以它就消失了

  • I said to Eagle, and I told him about the experience, and I said to him, "You know, there's one demon that really scares the living shit out of me.

    我告知Bernard,我對他敘述這經驗,我告訴他:你知道,那一個邪靈真的嚇死我了

  • I can't get it out of my head. I just see that picture of him burning in my mind and I'm too afraid to sleep with the lights off."

    我無法將它趕出我的腦袋,我就是看到他- 他的影像在我心智中燃燒,而我不敢在睡覺時關燈

  • And Eagle said, "Okay. Well, look at it this way. Look at them as pictures.

    而Bernard說:好,用這方式觀看它,觀看他們等同於「圖片」

  • Realize what they are believing themselves to be, is that picture.

    察覺出他們- 信以為自己所是的,是那「圖片」

  • Look "beyond" it, beyond that picture. Because it's not who they are. It's what they believe themselves to be."

    看它的「之後的」,在那圖片之後的,因為圖片不是他們真正是誰,他們信以為自己是:圖片

  • From that moment, I looked at demons completely differently.

    從那刻起,我觀看邪靈變得完全不同

  • I saw them just as pictures.

    我看- 只當他們是個圖片

  • Pictures of what they believed themselves to be. Much simpler. Because, I saw the demons as just pictures.

    他們信以為自己所是的圖片,簡單多了,因為,我視邪靈只是圖片

  • Therefore, can "pictures" harm me? No. They can't.

    所以「圖片」能傷害我嗎?不,他們無法

  • So it was very much simpler to take the demons and put them into my heart the whole time.

    所以這是非常易於抓這邪靈並放入我的心,隨時

  • It was fun. I enjoyed doing that. I loved it.

    這很有趣,我享受做這,我愛這

  • And from then on, I didn't have any fear of demons, whatsoever.

    而從此之後,我對於邪靈沒有任何懼怕,無論如何

  • And I didn't fear losing myself if I take them and put them into my heart and show them who they are, as one with me.

    而我不恐懼失去我自己- 如果我抓他們並把他們放入我的心- 並向他們展示他們真正是誰,與我等同如一

  • The first time I had the ability to see,

    第一次我有能力看見

  • I saw human beings and dimensional beings as one.

    我視人類和次元空間人仕等同如一

  • For instance, there was no differentiation between this world and the dimensions.

    例如,這個世界和次元空間- 是無差別的

  • Everything was one. Everything was white.

    每件事是如一的,每件事是白色的

  • And I saw human beings and dimensional beings as these white "orbs."

    而現在我看見人類和次元空間人仕等同於這些白色「球體」

  • It's like I would see... You know when you would see in alpha state?

    這就像我看見...你知道- 當你在阿爾法狀態(alpha state)時會看見的?

  • You'd see picture, white, picture, white, picture, white. So I saw human beings walk -

    你看見影像、白色、影像、白色、影像、白色。所以我看見人類行走

  • picture, white, picture, white, not as everyone sees now, constant pictures everywhere.

    影像、白色、影像、白色、不像每個人現在所見的,每處皆為固定的影像

  • So now, the dimensional beings I just see it in constant white. Orbs.

    所以現在,我看見次元空間人仕是固定在白色,球體。

  • Now every time I walk, I would be able to see and understand --

    現在每次我行走,我能夠看見並理解

  • for instance, there were black holes in human being's presence of themselves.

    例如,有黑洞在人類他們自己的呈現

  • So for instance, if I've seen a human being with a black hole in their stomach area,

    所以例如,如果我看見一個人類在腹部有黑洞

  • I'd be able to see, understand, interpret and explain what exactly that black hole represents.

    我能看見、理解,並詮釋和解釋- 這黑洞實際上代表了什麼

  • Usually, it was points of fear or anger that there hadn''t been forgiveness applied.

    通常,那是某一點- 還沒經過自我寬恕應用(解除)的恐懼或憤怒

  • And there was no transcendence yet.

    而那是還沒被超越的

  • The human being thus in that way, "harmed themselves" as the white orb expression as who they are.

    這人類因此用那形式「傷害他們自己」等同他們是誰的表達形式- 這白色球體

  • I wouldn't see anything else but that black hole.

    除了黑洞以外- 其它的我不會看見

  • I was just in a moment understand, interpret, explain exactly what that black hole is.

    我在一刻間理解、詮釋、解釋- 那黑洞確切是什麼

  • And be able to assist and support them in such a way.

    而能夠協助和支援他們- 在這種方式

  • So it was quite fascinating seeing everything in that way.

    所以這是頗有趣的- 用那種方式看每一件事

  • Human beings and dimensional beings looked exactly the same.

    人類和次元空間人仕看起來確實相同

  • So I was in both world at once. And I communicated openly with dimensional beings..

    所以我同時身處兩個世界,而我和次元空間人仕公開的溝通

  • Even demons I could communicate with.

    甚至和邪靈溝通

  • I could see "red spots" as anger.

    我能看見憤怒等同「紅斑」

  • All the colors, I know exactly what they are.

    所有顏色,我知道他們實際上是什麼

  • I'd see them, I'd understand them, and be able to communicate with both human beings and dimensional beings, equally.

    我看見他們,我了解他們,而能夠和人類與次元空間人仕溝通,相等同的

  • Even my mother! I started communicating with her as well. Honey, from the dimensions.She'd come to me and tell me

    甚至我媽,我同樣開始和她溝通,Honey(其母名),她來並告訴我

  • , "I'm worried about you, you know? I'm worried about your father. And your brother and your sister."

    我很擔心你,你知道嗎?我擔心你爸,和你的兄弟姊妹。

  • And I'd say to her, "Forgiveness. You are still stuck in the Mother Matrix System."

    而我對她說:自我寬恕吧,你依然受困於母親矩陣系統之中(Mother Matrix System)

  • And so I'd assist my mother interdimensionally as well.

    所以我同樣協助我媽 - 跨次元的

  • So, this whole world opened up.

    所以,這整個世界開啟了

  • But then came the Big Fall.

    但之後來了很大的「跌倒」

  • So I've told you in terms of what I am able to see and understand, interpret and explain.

    所以我跟你說過出於我能夠看見並理解的,詮釋與解釋的

  • Experience with the demons, beings, on earth and in the dimensions. Everything. That lasted about a week.

    經驗到邪靈和人仕們,在地球和次元空間,一切。那持續了一星期左右

  • And everyone in my world, of course, started to becoming jealous.

    而每一個在我世界之中的人,當然,開始變得嫉妒

  • And angry. And scared.

    和憤怒,還有受驚

  • And I allowed that to influence me, extensively.

    而我容許了這些影響我,廣泛的

  • Because nobody liked me. At all.

    因為完全沒人喜歡我

  • Because, here is this nineteen year old girl that has been here only for a few months, being able to see all these things in one moment.

    因為,這是一個才剛到這裡幾個月的十九歲女孩,就能夠看見所有這些東西- 在一刻間

  • In one moment.

    一瞬間

  • And no other experience, nothing.

    而(之前)沒有其它經驗,什麼都沒有

  • Just opened up in one moment seeing the demons and also seeing both human beings and dimensional beings as one.

    在一瞬間就開啟了,看見這邪靈和- 同樣看見人類和次元空間人仕- 等同如一

  • Being able to communicate with them,

    成為能夠和他們溝通

  • seeing these black spots anywhere, anyone, in any given moment I am able to explain what they are,

    看見這些黑斑在任何一處,每一個人,在任何指定時刻我能夠解釋他們是什麼

  • understand where they are, where they come from and how they were created, how it's influencing the human being's world.

    理解它們在何處,它們從何來,和它們如何被創建的,它如何影響人的世界

  • I could even see human beings and dimensional beings past lives and understand them.

    我甚至能夠看見人類和次元空間人仕的過去幾世並理解它們

  • I can explain how their past lives are influencing their present life.

    我能夠解釋他們的前世- 是如何影響他們當前的生命

  • And all that in one, singular moment. I was 19 years old.19

    而這全都在單獨的一瞬間(達成),我當時十九歲,十九

  • And all these people that was here, were here for much longer and they hadn't been able to do any of it, yet. At all.

    而所有這些在這裡的人,在這裡更久而他們尚無法做到任何一項,完全的

  • And so they kind of felt threatened. Very much so.

    而所以他們有點像是感到受威脅,非常的

  • Which I allowed to influence me, and I fell.

    即是被我容許來影響我的,而我跌落

INTERVIEW 7: Catching Demons

Desteni呈獻-跨次元門戶之歷史(7):捕捉邪靈

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