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  • INTERVIEW 2: Meeting Demons -

    desteni呈獻 - 跨次元門戶的歷史:會見邪靈(惡魔) - 講者:winged(sunette)

  • My first encounter with the demons in the dimensions, after I had gone out of my body and experienced myself in the dimensions.

    我首次在次元空間當中遭遇邪靈,在我離開我的身體並在次元空間中體驗我自己後

  • So the very first time I left my body, it was a demon that came in and "inhabited" my body for a moment.

    所以我第一次離開身體, 那時有一個邪靈來進入並「居住」在我的身體一陣子

  • And I went out and experienced myself in the dimensions.

    而我離開並在次元空間當中體驗我自己

  • Now I was (first in?) and they were like dimensional planes, and so I went into the first dimensional plane.

    現在我是首先......它們像是次元空間平原, 而所以我進入第一個次元空間平原

  • I literally "moved up," when I first left. I moved up because I didn't see anyone else around me.

    我確實的向上移,當我第一次離體,我向上移因為我沒看見任何人在我周圍

  • So I moved up because I saw these "layers." I wondered what they were.

    所以我向上移因為我看見那些層級(平原),我不知道那些是什麼

  • So I moved up, and that was my first encounter and experience with the dimensional beings.

    所以我向上移,而那是我第一次遭遇和見識到次元空間人仕

  • But then later, when I was "up there," I noticed beings "down here," on earth.

    但不久後,當我上去到那裡,我發覺人仕們在這裡底下的地球

  • But different - looking beings. And I knew immediately they were demons.

    但 - 是外觀不同的人仕。而我立即知道他們是邪靈

  • Because before I had gone out of my body,

    因為在我離開身體之前

  • I worked with demons from the perspective of placing them inside me, as me, as one with me,

    我處理過邪靈從這觀點:配置他們在我之中,等同我,與我等同一體

  • and showing them who they are, as one with me.

    並向他們展示他們真正是誰,等同於我一體

  • Now, in the dimensions, it worked exactly the same way.

    現在,在次元空間當中,這用確實相同的方式運作

  • So, I was standing up there; literally, it looks like a platform (these dimensional "planes").

    所以,我立於其上:真的 - 它看起來就像一個平台(那些次元空間平原)

  • It was quite thick. Really think. Not really. It was (measures by placing fingers to make an oblong oval shape).

    它蠻厚的,真的厚,不是確實

  • It was a crystal white glassy color. And then I looked down, and you're able to see everything.

    它是水晶般的亮白色,而然後我向下看,而你能夠看見每一件事

  • What I mean, "everything:" you're able to see human beings walking around and then the demons attached to them.

    我指的每一件事是:你可以看見人類四處移動而接著邪靈附在他們身上

  • So, you know you have these boats where they have the glass and you're able to see the ocean underneath?

    所以,你知道你有那些船是 - 它們有玻璃而你可以看見底下的海祥?

  • Exactly like that. But the "glass" would be the dimensional plane.

    確實像是那樣,但這「玻璃」會是次元空間平原

  • And you're able to look down and see everything that was going on earth. And with the demons.

    而你能夠向下看並看見地球上發生的每件事,和邪靈

  • And so, you know I looked at the demons and went, "I wanna communicate with them." And so I did.

    而所以,你知道-我看著邪靈並變得:我要和他們溝通,而我就做了

  • And I went down and I started communicating with the demons, and finding out, you know, what's happened to them,

    而我下去並且我開始和邪靈溝通,並發掘,你知道,他們發生了什麼事

  • how they were experiencing themselves and introduced them to forgiveness.

    他們如何體驗他們自己並介紹他們去自我寬恕

  • So first I went and communicated with them with forgiveness, and told them to do forgiveness with me.

    所以首先我去並和他們溝通關於自我寬恕,並告訴他們和我一起做寬恕

  • Most, of course, didn't want to.

    多數,當然,不願意

  • Some were afraid of me because they'd never seen a dimensional being just walking around in the demon dimension

    有些害怕我因為他們從沒看過一個次元空間人仕在邪靈空間中活動

  • because everybody feared demons in the dimensional existence at that time.

    因為那時在次元空間中的每個人都害怕邪靈

  • Everyone, of course, in the dimensional planes thought I was absolutely going crazy, going mad,because they said,

    每個人,當然,在次元空間平原上的 - 都認為我絕對是瘋了,發瘋了,因為他們說

  • "Do you know anything about demons? Do you know that they are able to harm you?

    「你知道任何關於邪靈的嗎?你知道他們可以傷害你嗎?

  • Do you know if they transform you into a demon, you will be lost into infinity? How can you go there?"

    你知道如果他們把你變成邪靈、你會永遠的迷失嗎?你怎麼可以去那裡?」

  • And I said, "Well. then I'm gratful that I don't have any knowledge or information of them,

    而我說:「嗯我很慶幸我沒有任何關於他們的知識或資訊

  • because clearly, it's knowledge and information that you have of them that (has) you fearing them."

    因為明顯的,是你有的 - 關於他們的知識和資訊 - 讓你害怕他們」

  • "I'm here. I'm me, and I'm communicating with them.

    「我在這裡,而我和他們溝通

  • There exists no fear in me, because I've worked with demons before, and I know who they are as me.

    沒有恐懼存於我內,因為我之前處理過邪靈,而我知道他們與我是等同的

  • They just haven't realized it as themselves yet."

    他們只是還沒察覺到這 - 等如他們」

  • So, after that, I went down, despite what anyone else said in the dimensions.

    所以,之後,我下去,不管其它在次元空間中的人說了些什麼

  • They all went, "Gasp! Oh, My God, we're not going to see her again," and stuff like that.

    他們全都變得:「我的天,我們不會再次看到她了」和類似那樣的

  • "Do you ever want to go back to your body again? Don't go to the demon dimension again." You know, those things I couldn't believe it!

    「你還想要回去你的身體嗎?不要再去邪靈空間」你知道,那些事我無法相信它

  • So I was the only, I was like, the only expression in the dimensions going into the demon dimension.

    所以我是唯一,我像是,次元空間當中的「表現」中唯一進入邪靈空間的

  • Now they were HUGE.

    現在他們很巨大

  • There were some demons that were about three stories high.

    那裡有些邪靈大約是三層樓高

  • Big, huge demons. And I'd be like this small compared to them.HUGE!

    大,巨大的邪靈,而我與之相較之下我是那麼小,巨大!

  • Literally, there were some demons, if you take an ant and compared to a tree... literally like that. And they were really quite scary looking.

    簡直是,有些邪靈,如果你拿螞蟻去和樹木比較...就像是那樣。 而他們真的有恐怖的外觀

  • What I mean by "Scary-looking," they were very vicious stuff.

    我指的「恐怖的外觀」,他們是非常惡毒的東西

  • It's worse-- if you think you've seen "evil" pictures in this world,

    這更遭--如果你認為你看過「邪惡」的影像在這世界

  • you haven't seen anything like the demon presented themselves; at all.

    你從沒看過任何東西 - 像是邪靈呈現他們自己的, 一點也沒有

  • There was-- I'm certain if you die and you'd seen one of the demons,

    那是--我確定如果你死了 - 而你看見那些邪靈之一

  • and you've never seen them before, you'd have a second death. And literally, just stop your own existence.

    而你之前從沒看過,你會死第二次,而簡直是停止了你自己的存在

  • But what I was able to see within demons, was quite interesting.

    但我能夠看見在邪靈之內的 - 是頗有趣的

  • Because although they presented themselves as these HUGE, HUGE presentation of themselves as this evil, fierce being

    因為雖然他們呈現他們自己等同那些巨大、巨大 - 的展現他們自己等同這些邪惡、凶狠的人仕

  • , I could see right thru them to who they are.

    我能夠看穿他們真正是誰

  • I could see them. And what I did was, I just expand myself, bigger than they were --

    我能看見他們,而我做的是,我就擴展我自己,比他們還巨大

  • they believed themselves to be, and I'd expand myself until they eventually looked up to me.

    他們相信他們自己是的,而我擴展我自己 - 直到他們最終向上看著我

  • And what I'd do is, I'd just place them inside myself, and say, "Come here. Just come here."

    而我做的是,我就配置他們在我之中,並說「來這裡,就來這裡吧」

  • And at first they would try and resist me, but I'd remain stable, and say, "Come look. Come have a look here."

    而一開始他們試著並抗拒我,但我持續穩固的,並說「來看看,來看看這裡」

  • Sometimes I'd catch them and say, look, and I'd present them -- I showed them fear, for instance.

    有時我抓住他們並說,看,而我呈獻給他們 - 我展示恐懼給他們,例如

  • Extensive amount of fear, as me. I'd say, "Come, have a look! Here's fear! Here's lot's of fear, come feed."

    大量的恐懼,等同我,我說 「來,看一下!這是恐懼!這裡有很多恐懼,來吸食吧」

  • And then they'd come in and I'd just drop the whole presentation as an idea of themselves as a demon.

    然後他們進來而我就刪除這整個展現 - 等同是一個他們自己是邪靈的概念

  • It doesn't exist at all.

    它就再也不存在

  • And what happens is they go, they realize themselves in that moment of quantum time.

    而發生的是,他們察覺出他們自己 - 在量子時間的那一刻

  • In other words, everything of their definition of themselves as a demon disappears.

    換句話說,讓他們定義自己等如邪靈的每一件事都消失了

  • And then they step forth as who they are.

    而他們站起等同他們真正是誰

  • And that's how I experienced myself in the demon dimension. I did that with all of the demons.

    而那就是我在邪靈空間當中如何體驗我自己,我做了那對所有的邪靈

  • Sometimes I communicate with them, just communicate and we'd do forgiveness together.

    有時我和他們溝通,只是溝通然後我們一起做自我寬恕

  • And I'd say... do the same thing... just expand myself and say, "Come here." I did it in various ways. Depending on how they at first react.

    而我說過...做同樣的事..擴張我自己並說,「來這裡」, 我做這用各種方式,取決於他們一開始如何反應

  • So if I say, "come here," and they'd resist or run away, I showed them immediately, like, just fear.

    所以如果我說過來這裡而他們抗拒或跑掉,我立刻展示給他們像是 - 恐懼

  • But it was like, a picture presentation but they'd believe it to be real.

    但這像是,一個影像的展現 - 但他們相信那是真的

  • And when they "come in," (the picture) disappears, and they realize who they are.

    而當他們進來,(影像)就消失,而他們察覺他們真正是誰

  • And then they are not of a demon anymore.

    而他們就再也不是邪靈了

  • There were so many demons. I supposed I really wondered if there were more demons than there were dimensional beings.

    這是有如此多的邪靈,我很懷疑邪靈是否比次元空間人仕還多

  • There were sometimes three, sometimes seventeen demons in one human physical body.

    那有時候有,有時候有十七個邪靈在一個人類身體當中

  • And the children : really extensive, the demons inside the children.

    而這兒童:真的廣泛的,這邪靈在兒童當中

  • Most of humanity, if not ALL, had demons inside them. Exactly what Hitler saw when he was here.

    大部分的人類,如果不是全部,有邪靈在他們之中,確實是當希特勒在地球上時看見的

  • Everyone was possessed by demons, but every looked so normal. But it's not.

    每個人都被邪靈附體,但每件事看起來是平常的,但這並不是

  • When you really see the effects of what the demons have, it's extensive.

    當你真的看見邪靈有的影響,這是泛濫的

  • But I really enjoyed it. While it lasted. The demons were still there.

    但我真的享受這,當這還在,當邪靈還在那

  • Of course, when we cleaned up the demon dimension completely. Which I'm grateful for.

    當然,當我們完全的清除這邪靈空間,我很感激

  • Oh! There was one time when the demons tried to "catch me, " and have me remain in the dimensions.

    喔,有次邪靈試圖抓住我,並讓我留在次元空間當中

  • About three or four of them. It was all but an idea. It's fascinating.

    他們大約三或四個,這全都只是個「概念」,這很有趣

  • So the demons had like, his arm around my throat, in the dimensions,

    所以邪靈像是,他摟住我的喉嚨,在次元空間當中

  • And he placed like a metallic pole thing in the center of me.

    而他配置了像是一個金屬棍在我的中心

  • Pinning me down to himself, so he said, "Now you will remain with me, inside me, infinitely."

    釘住我在他自己身上,所以他說,現在你會和我一起留下來,在我之中,永遠的

  • So I was inside this demon, pinned down with a "metal" rod placement, interdimensionally.

    所以我在這邪靈當中,被一個金屬棍配置釘住,跨次元空間的

  • Now, if I believed that metal rod would actually hold me to pin me down, it would've.

    現在,如果我相信這金屬棍真的能讓我被釘住,那它就會

  • But I just laughed, because I knew that this was not "real."

    但我只是笑,因為我知道那不是「真的」

  • So all I did was I stood up within my self within him. And I stood as this demon, and I just showed him, "This is who you are."

    所以所有我做的是,在我和他之中我站起,並立足等同於這邪靈,然後我展示給他看「這是真正的你」

  • And then he really realized himself. And then I was "freed."

    而然後他察覺出他自己,而然後我就「被釋放」了

  • That was some pretty fascinating experiences.

    這是一些頗有趣的經驗

  • ok.this is winged.thanks

    好,這是winged(sunette),多謝

INTERVIEW 2: Meeting Demons -

desteni呈獻 - 跨次元門戶的歷史:會見邪靈(惡魔) - 講者:winged(sunette)

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