There are only a handful who even deserve to be in the conversation with Kobe Bryant.

甚至有資格與科比-布萊恩特同臺對話的人屈指可數。

One of them is fellow Laker Jerry West, and it was West as GM who brought Kobe to L.

其中一位是湖人同胞傑裡-韋斯特，正是韋斯特作為總經理將科比帶到了L。

A trading for him on draft night in 1996.

1996年選秀夜，一個交易讓他。

West saw the potential.

西方看到了潛力。

Others did not few in the game.

其他人在遊戲中沒有幾個。

New Kobe.

新科比。

Better as a player and as a person when I was an emperor on my way up here, and people come up to me and say, Hey, do you play basketball?

作為一個球員和一個人更好，當我還是一個皇帝的時候，在我上來的路上，人們走過來對我說，嘿，你打籃球嗎？

And I said, Yeah, I play basketball and I said, Well, what team do you play for?

我說，是的，我打籃球，我說，好吧，你為哪個隊打球？

I used to say a little Mary high school.

我曾經說過一點瑪麗高中。

So I'm like, Well, I played for long.

所以我想，好吧，我玩了很久。

Very hot.

非常熱。

No, You know what?

不，你知道嗎？

I'm in Los Angeles.

我在洛杉磯。

Lakers on Kobe.

湖人隊對科比。

Uh, for you.

呃，給你的。

People always ask me about him.

人們總是問我關於他的事。

How do you know he was going to turn out like he did?

你怎麼知道他會變成這樣？

Anyone could have seen this if they had paid attention.

如果有人注意的話，誰都能看出來。

Anyone?

有誰知道？

So you say he Anyone could have seen it, but not everyone did.

所以你說他任何人都能看到，但不是每個人都能看到。

So what struck you about him Then when he was 17 years old.

那麼，當他17歲的時候，你對他有什麼印象呢？

Hey, was different.

嘿，是不同的。

Okay?

好嗎？

You could see it.

你可以看到它。

You could feel it.

你能感覺到它。

Way honestly felt that he was the number one player taking in the draft, and it was a good players there.

偉說實話，覺得他是選秀的頭號選手，而且是好選手有。

And Allen Iverson with the first pick in the draft.

而阿倫-艾弗森用選秀第一順位。

But I just thought he was better.

但我只是覺得他更好。

Now, hey, get a shot for himself.

現在，嘿，給自己打一針。

Any time he wants in the MBA, even in the NBA, he'll be able to create shots, see?

只要他想在MBA，甚至在NBA，他都能創造出投籃機會，明白嗎？

Well, yes, he will.

嗯，是的，他會的。

Yes, he will.

是的，他會的。

How would you describe?

你會怎麼描述？

You know what you meant to him earlier on where you like the favorite uncle?

你知道你之前對他說的喜歡最愛的叔叔的意思嗎？

Were you like a second dad?

你是第二個爸爸嗎？

In some respects, I really felt like I was a baby sitter for him.

在某些方面，我真的覺得自己是他的保姆。

Honestly, you know, I wasn't gonna let him take a wrong step.

老實說，你知道，我是不會讓他走錯一步的。

Um, you know, he would come over to our house and have dinner in a very much like, you know, a high school senior that he waas e really felt like that.

嗯，你知道，他會過來 我們的房子和晚餐 在一個非常喜歡，你知道， 一個高中生，他waas e真的覺得像。

I was kind of a surrogate father to him.

我算是他的代理父親。

I did.

我有

We were gonna watch over him and care for him.

我們要去看護他，照顧他。

Just like a mother and father would dio knowledge of Jerry West this hobby, that knowledge, I view the knowledge is being like kind of like a golden treasure.

就像一個母親和父親會dio知識傑裡-韋斯特這個愛好，這個知識，我認為知識是被像種像一個黃金寶藏。

I think that only if you're lucky enough you get a chance Thio here, that knowledge and the knowledge that they can share with you.

我想，只有當你足夠幸運的時候，你才有機會Thio這裡，那些知識和他們可以與你分享的知識。

So that's how I treated Kobe was such, ah, student of the game.

所以我就是這樣對待科比是這樣的，啊，遊戲的學生。

He knew so much about the history of the game that I'm curious to know how he felt about you and your place in the history of basketball.

他對比賽的歷史如此瞭解，我很想知道他對你的感受以及你在籃球史上的地位。

Oh, really?

哦，真的嗎？

We had some unbelievable conversations.

我們進行了一些不可思議的對話。

I don't think you repeat the language on the air.

我想你不會在直播中重複這些語言。

E used to tell him all the time.

E曾經一直告訴他。

I said, You know, you foul too much.

我說，你知道，你犯規太多。

I said You'd be LV game in no time if you're guarding May I said, you know the snake, the Black Mamba Hey said Yeah, and I said So that's your the black mom.

我說你要是守著梅，馬上就能成為LV遊戲了我說，你知道蛇，黑曼巴嘿嘿說是啊，我說那就是你的那個黑媽。

But he said Yes, E said.

但他說是的，E說。

You ever hear of Mongoose?

你聽說過Mongoose嗎？

E said.

E說。

I'm a mongoose and they kill everybody mambo, and you can look on YouTube and see these things fighting and the mongoose wins every time.

我是一隻貓鼬，他們殺了每個人曼波，你可以看看YouTube，看到這些東西的戰鬥和貓鼬贏得每一次。

And he said, he said I'm not an ordinary mamba.

他說，他說我不是一個普通的曼巴。

I said.

我說。

Well, I'm not an ordinary mongoose either.

好吧，我也不是一隻普通的貓鼬。

On.

在。

And I have a picture of that today in my house.

而我今天在家裡也有一張照片。

I'm in a coat and tie and he's in a Laker uniform.

我穿著大衣打著領帶，他穿著湖人隊的制服。

Really?

真的嗎？

Good.

很好啊

Good luck.

好運。

Thank you.

謝謝你了

All right.

好吧，我知道了

But he likes done especially one.

但他喜歡做特別是一。

If you allow me.

如果你允許我。

I'm gonna read a quote from Kobe.

我要讀一段科比的話。

And this is a quote from him on how he wanted to be remembered.

這是他說的一句話，他希望人們如何記住他。

It's the one thing that you can control.

這是你能控制的一件事。

You are responsible for how people remember you or don't.

你要對別人記住你或不記住你負責。

So don't take it lightly.

所以不要輕視它。

If you do it right, your game will live on in others.

如果你做得對，你的遊戲就會在別人身上延續。

So leave everything on the court, leave the game better than you found it.

所以，把一切都留在球場上，把比賽留在比你發現它更好的地方。

And when it comes time for you to leave, leave a legend.

當你要離開的時候，要留下一個傳奇。

Well, hey did exactly that.

好吧，他們就是這麼做的。

How many people could do that?

有多少人可以做到這一點？

There's not many legends out there there if you wanna bees.

如果你想做蜜蜂，外面的傳說並不多。

But they're not really these iconic figures that stand above the rest.

但他們其實並不是這些高高在上的標誌性人物。

He's going up to try to remember him properly.

他要上前去試著好好記住他。

I don't know how anyone else does.

我不知道別人是怎麼做的。

I know how I did.

我知道我是怎麼做的。

I loved him like a son.

我愛他就像愛兒子一樣。

I admired his talent.

我很欣賞他的才華。

Leaders don't come along very often.

領導者並不經常出現。

And when someone of his caliber leaves far too young, it takes a toll on a lot of people and particularly people who cared about him a lot.

而當一個像他這樣的人太過年輕地離開時，會給很多人帶來損失，尤其是那些很關心他的人。

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