I'm Rachel Nichols alongside Kendrick Perkins, and we're thrilled now to welcome in ESPN Senior MBA insider Zach Lowe.

我是瑞秋-尼科爾斯，和肯德里克-帕金斯一起，我們現在很高興地歡迎ESPN高級MBA內部人士扎克-洛威的到來。

So Guys Cove it issues striking again.

所以夥計們科夫它問題又罷工了。

The MBA officially postponing the Hawks Sons Game scheduled for tonight.

MBA正式延後原定於今晚舉行的鷹之子比賽。

Jazz Wizards, Magic Celtics Those had previously been postponed as well.

爵士奇才、魔術凱爾特人這些此前也被延後了。

Now Magic forward Aaron Gordon tweeted this.

現在魔術隊前鋒阿倫-戈登在推特上這樣說。

It's starting to get Jaenke.

開始讓詹克。

I'd be cool with a bubble if it was in the Bahamas or Hawaii, and we got to bring our family, wife or girlfriend.

如果是在巴哈馬或夏威夷，我會很高興，我們可以帶著我們的家人，妻子或女朋友去。

The jump in Hawaii does have a nice ring to it.

夏威夷的那一跳確實很有韻味。

Just saying yesterday the league introduced some new covert protocols, like forbidding players from leaving the team hotel when they're on the road.

只是說昨天聯盟推出了一些新的祕密協議，比如禁止球員在客場時離開球隊酒店。

No, let's say just special guests are allowed to visit no Inter team interaction before after the game and more restrictions on who could be massless during games, as well as restrictions on what players could do at home, who they could see what they can leave their house for.

不，比方說只允許特殊客人來訪，賽前賽後不能有國米球隊的互動，對比賽期間誰可以不做面膜有更多的限制，同時對球員在家裡可以做什麼，可以見誰可以離開家做什麼也有限制。

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N B.

A.

A.

Vet.

獸醫。

George Hill Not thrilled about these new guidelines.

喬治-希爾對這些新的指導方針並不感到興奮。

Take a listen.

聽一聽吧

I'm a grown man, so I'm gonna do what I want to do if I want to go see my family.

我是個成年人了，如果我想去看我的家人，我就會做我想做的事。

I'm gonna see my family.

我要去看我的家人。

They can't tell me I have to stay in the room 24 7.

他們不能告訴我，我必須24小時呆在房間裡。

If it's that serious, then maybe we shouldn't be playing.

如果那麼嚴重，那我們也許就不該玩了。

But, um, you know, it's life.

但是，嗯，你知道，這就是生活。

No one's gonna be able to just cancel their whole life for this game.

沒有人會為了這個遊戲而取消自己的一生。

And that's how I think about it.

我也是這麼想的。

Zach, I want to make the point that the MBA has not had to postpone these games because there has been a huge rash of players actually testing positive for coronavirus.

扎克，我想說的是，MBA不必延後這些比賽，因為有一大批球員的冠狀病毒檢測呈陽性。

Ah, lot of the postponements have happened because contact tracing right, One guy gets it, and they determined that there have been enough teammates in close enough contact.

啊，很多延期都是因為接觸追蹤對了，有一個人得到了，他們確定已經有足夠多的隊友在近距離接觸。

They have to sit them for a week.

他們必須讓他們坐一個星期。

So there isn't some huge rash of covitz spreading around the league.

所以，聯盟中並沒有出現一些大肆傳播的科維茨。

Well, what they have tried to done with do with these rules is eliminate close contact points, right so that there won't be contact tracing absences on teams if one guy test positive.

他們試圖用這些規則來消除親密接觸點 對吧 這樣如果有一個人測試呈陽性 就不會有接觸追蹤缺勤了

But you heard George Hill.

但你聽到了喬治-希爾的話

Does he have a point as a counter to all of that?

他有什麼觀點作為反駁這些嗎？

In terms of just his personal liberty, experiencing his family.

就只是他的人身自由而言，體驗他的家庭。

He has a point on two levels.

他有兩個層面的觀點。

Number one, um, this is gonna be mentally straining.

第一，嗯，這將是精神上的壓力。

I mean, I guess it's a first world problem, these Air five star hotels and all this, but to be cooped up in isolated, it's It's a version of the very riel mental strain and anxiety that players felt in the bubble.

我的意思是，我想這是第一世界的問題，這些航空五星級酒店和所有這些，但被關在孤立的，這是一個版本的非常里爾精神壓力和焦慮，玩家在保麗龍中感受到。

That's a real thing.

這是一個真實的事情。

And his point of maybe we shouldn't be playing.

而他的觀點也許我們不應該玩。

I think that's actually a reasonable question.

我覺得這其實是一個合理的問題。

Clearly, everybody, including the players union who, by the way, has signed on to all of this from the beginning, has made a decision that we're gonna play now.

很顯然，所有人，包括球員工會，從一開始就簽署了所有的協議，已經做出了決定，我們現在要玩。

Players can opt out of the season.

球員可以選擇不參加本賽季的比賽。

He would have to sacrifice a huge amount of money to do that.

他必須犧牲一大筆錢才行。

But it's on the table, but I don't think it's unreasonable for him to ask.

但這是擺在桌面上的，但我不認為他的要求是不合理的。

Hey, wait a second.

嘿，等一下。

Is this really safe?

這真的安全嗎？

What are we gonna learn about how this virus may or may not spread during basketball games?

我們要了解到這種病毒在籃球比賽中可能或不可能傳播？

We think we know some stuff.

我們認為我們知道一些東西。

How much stuff do we really know?

我們到底知道多少東西？

So I think he's raising some real concerns.

所以我認為他提出了一些真正的擔憂。

The whole I could do what I want, think well, you actually can't because the union in the league bargained all these rules.

整個我可以做我想做的事，想好了，其實你不能，因為聯盟裡的工會討價還價的這些規則。

And if you do some of that stuff, you could get fined and punished for it.

而如果你做了一些這樣的事情，你可能會是以而被罰款和懲罰。

That's sort of unrealistic on his part, but I don't think the general question he's raising is crazier.

他這話有點不切實際，但我不認為他提出的一般問題是比較瘋狂的。

Ridiculous.

荒唐

Well, I do Zach, and look, I love George here.

好吧，我做扎克，你看，我愛喬治在這裡。

He's a great, He's a great friend of mine.

他是一個偉大的，他是我的一個好朋友。

Great individual, right?

偉大的個人，對吧？

And I get it.

我明白了。

He is a grown man, but we're talking about trying to keep people safe in the workplace so we won't have to postpone games, and the league is trying to tighten it up so they don't have to go and use a bubble.

他是一個成年人，但我們談論的是努力保證人們在工作場所的安全，所以我們不必延後比賽，聯盟正在努力收緊它，所以他們不必去使用保麗龍。

And here's the thing.

事情是這樣的

It's not just about the players is not just about the coaches, but people have to realize you have the medical staff.

這不僅僅是球員的問題不僅僅是教練的問題，但是大家要知道你有醫務人員。

You have the training staff.

你有培訓人員。

You have all these people that worked behind the scenes and work for these organizations that depend on work that depends on their salary to feed their families.

你有這些在幕後工作的人，為這些組織工作，靠工作靠工資養家餬口。

So although I get what George here saying about him being a grown man and him wanting to do what he wanna do, it's not about you, G Hill.

所以，雖然我明白喬治說的 他是個成年人，他想做他想做的事 但這不是你的問題，G Hill。

It's about the others.

這是關於其他人的。

That that haven't got paid me is the dollars that actually need this money.

那些沒有付給我的錢才是真正需要這筆錢的錢。

So when you think about when you say things like this, don't just think about the players and yourself.

所以，當你想到當你說這樣的話的時候，不要只考慮球員和自己。

Think about the guys that are washing your jerseys.

想想那些給你洗球衣的人吧。

Think about the people that are putting the shoes in your lockers and making sure you have everything that you need.

想想那些把鞋子放進儲物櫃的人，確保你有一切需要的東西。

The training staff, that air taping your ankles.

訓練人員，那氣帶你的腳踝。

Those are the people that matters, too.

這些也是重要的人。

So when you talk about situations like this, it don't just affect the players and coaches.

所以當你談論這樣的情況時，它不僅僅影響到球員和教練。

It affects everyone.

它影響到每個人。

And I would say that's such a great point.

我想說的是，這是一個很好的觀點。

It's also a great point about George Hill.

關於喬治-希爾，這也是一個很好的觀點。

I think he has so much respect from everyone around the league.

我覺得他在聯盟中受到了大家的尊重。

This doesn't change that.

這並不能改變這一點。

But I would say toe all players, anyone associated with teams right now, at this point, we all know the issues right.

但我想說的是，現在所有的球員，任何與球隊有關的人，在這一點上，我們都知道這些問題吧。

We all know the risk and reward.

我們都知道風險和回報。

We know how much money would be lost if the MBA shut down for a significant amount of time.

我們知道，如果MBA關閉相當長的時間，會損失多少錢。

We know that the people involved in running the MBA have decided they would like that business and that money to continue.

我們知道，參與經營MBA的人已經決定，他們希望這筆生意和這筆錢繼續下去。

And if you are someone who is just out there speculating, I don't know, maybe we shouldn't be playing.

而如果你是一個只是在外面猜測的人，我不知道，也許我們不應該玩。

You've got all the information and you can decide personally.

你已經掌握了所有的資訊，你可以親自決定。

Is that pointed out that you don't want to be playing and forfeit your salary?

這是指你不想在玩，沒收工資嗎？

You could be a voice in the union to say we should all shut down and I'm willing to lose all this money for everyone but to just sort of throwing it out there.

你可以在工會里發聲，說我們應該全部關停，我願意為大家損失這些錢，但要只是排序扔出去。

At this point, I think we have all of the parameters down, and the union has made a decision to go forward.

在這一點上，我想我們已經把所有的參數都確定下來了，工會也已經做出了前進的決定。

And frankly, George has made a decision to go forward.

而且坦率地說，喬治已經做出了前進的決定。

So the speculation sometimes doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

所以，這種猜測有時候我覺得並沒有什麼意義。

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