- All right, we're finally doing it.

- 好吧，我們終於做到了。

We're reviewing the Mac Pro and the Pro XDR display.

我們正在評測Mac Pro和Pro XDR顯示屏。

The Mac Pro is Apple's new high performance modular

Mac Pro是蘋果公司新推出的高性能模塊式電腦，它的設計理念是 "以人為本"。

Mac tower for pros.

專業的Mac塔。

Pro pros, actual professionals.

專業的專業人士，真正的專業人士。

This isn't Air Pods pro, fancier and more expensive.

這不是Air Pods專業版，粉絲更多，價格更貴。

This is pro.

這是親。

You're gonna use this thing for making TV shows,

你要用這個東西來製作電視節目。

producing music, building apps,

製作音樂，打造應用。

stuff where you need all the power you can get.

你需要所有的力量的地方。

And the back story is that Apple basically forgot

而後面的故事是，蘋果基本忘記了

about this market for a long time.

關於這個市場很長時間了。

In 2013, it announced the previous Mac Pro,

在2013年，它宣佈了之前的Mac Pro。

the round computer

圓形電腦

that we affectionately called the trashcan.

我們親切地稱之為垃圾桶。

It didn't update it forever and then

它沒有永遠更新它，然後

after a lot of consternation about the future of the Mac,

在對Mac的未來感到不安之後。

Apple admitted in 2017

蘋果公司在2017年承認

that is had gotten the thermal design wrong

懷疑自己的散熱設計有誤

and was gonna start over.

並打算重新開始。

Then we waited for another two years

然後我們又等了兩年

and now we've got this Mac Pro,

現在我們已經得到了這個Mac Pro。

the big dog, the most powerful Mac ever made.

大狗，有史以來最強大的Mac。

It's basically what people were asking for,

基本上是人們所要求的。

it's a big tower, it's modular,

這是一個大塔，它是模塊化的。

you can spec it with a variety of processors

你可以用不同的處理器來規範它。

and graphic cards,

和圖形卡。

it's got a bunch of slots, a headphone jack,

它有一堆老虎機，一個耳機插孔。

you can basically do anything with it.

你基本上可以用它做任何事情。

And let's be honest,

說實話

the Mac Pro has actually been out for a little while

Mac Pro其實已經推出了一段時間。

and a lot of our friends out there on YouTube

和我們的很多朋友在YouTube上有

have been testing it.

一直在測試它。

And all those videos are great,

而且所有這些視頻都很不錯。

but that means to add to the conversation,

但這意味著要增加對話的內容。

we've gotta do something a little bit different.

我們必須做一些事情 有點不同。

And then there's the problem,

然後就是問題了。

which is that the Mac Pro is endlessly configurable.

也就是Mac Pro的配置是無窮無盡的。

You can buy the base model for $6,000

你可以用6000美元購買基本款車型

or you can spec it all the way out to $54,000

或者你可以把它全部規格化到54,000美元。

with a 28-core processor and two dual GPUs.

配備28核處理器和兩個雙GPU。

So just picking a Mac Pro to review is a challenge.

所以，僅僅是挑選一臺Mac Pro進行評測就是一個挑戰。

There's no way to pick a single configuration

沒有辦法選擇單一的配置。

that's best for everyone, but we have an advantage.

這對大家都是最好的，但我們有優勢。

The Verge is part of Vox Media,

The Verge是Vox Media的一部分。

and we know a lot of people here

我們知道這裡有很多人

who work on fancy media projects.

從事花式媒體項目的人。

Just a couple floors below us,

就在我們下面幾層樓。

there's an entire team of people

人手眾多

making Netflix and Hulu shows.

製作Netflix和Hulu節目。

We've got huge daily podcasts that come out,

我們每天都有大量的播客出來。

people here work on print magazine design,

這裡的人都是從事平面雜誌設計的。

and of course The Verge's own art and video teams

當然還有The Verge自己的藝術和視頻團隊。

make illustrations and motion graphics

作圖

for our site and YouTube all day long.

為我們的網站和YouTube整天。

So, we called everyone and asked them to use the Mac Pro

於是，我們給大家打電話，要求大家使用Mac Pro。

and the Pro Display XDR to do their jobs.

和Pro Display XDR來完成它們的工作。

- Hi, my name is Murilo Silva

- 嗨，我的名字是Murilo Silva

I'm the director of post production technology here at Vox.

我是Vox公司的後期製作技術總監。

- Hi, I'm Estelle Caswell,

- 嗨，我是Estelle Caswell。

I'm a senior video producer at vox.com.

我是vox.com的高級視頻製作人。

- I'm Stevie Remsberg

- 我是Stevie Remsberg

and I'm an art director at New York Magazine.

我是紐約雜誌的藝術總監。

- My name's Grayson Blackmon,

- 我叫格雷森-布萊克蒙,

I'm Senior Motion Designer at The Verge.

我是The Verge的高級動作設計師。

- My name is Noam Hassenfeld,

- 我叫諾姆-哈森菲爾德

I'm a reporter/producer for Today Explained,

我是《今日說法》的記者/製片人。

which is Vox's daily podcast.

這是Vox的每日播客。

- I've been building and maintaining

- 我一直在建造和維護

post production facilities for about 16 years.

後期製作設施約16年。

Before I was here at Vox I was at a facility that did

在我來Vox之前，我是在一個機構，做的是

all the color work for "Game of Thrones."

"權力的遊戲 "的所有色彩工作。

- I've worked on the Netflix "Explained" series,

- 我曾參與過Netflix的 "解釋 "系列。

but you probably know me from my music series "Earworm,"

但你可能知道我從我的音樂系列 "耳蟲"，

on Vox's YouTube channel.

在Vox的YouTube頻道上。

- The winner is the most feared song

- 冠軍是最害怕的歌曲

in jazz explained by Vox.

在爵士樂中由Vox解釋。

- [Grayson] There was a time where if you watched TV,

- 曾經有一段時間，如果你看電視，

you probably saw a commercial I worked on.

你可能看到了我的一個廣告。

- All right, step one,

- 好吧，第一步。

we still have to configure a Mac Pro.

我們還是要配置一個Mac Pro。

- We wanted a machine that we will realistically use

- 我們希望有一臺我們能實際使用的機器。

in our day to day.

在我們日常的。

Specs are only half the story here

規格只是故事的一半

because like most people,

因為和大多數人一樣。

we also have to stay within a price range

我們也要在一個價格範圍內

that makes sense for our business,

這對我們的業務是有意義的。

which in this case was about $17,000.

在這種情況下，約為17000美元。

We felt 16 cores at 3.2 gigahertz

我們感覺到16個核心在3.2千兆赫的頻率上

was a sweet spot in terms of price performance

是價格表現的甜蜜點

for Adobe Premiere and After Effects.

用於Adobe Premiere和After Effects。

And of course, the dual Radeon Pro Vega two video cards

當然，還有雙Radeon Pro Vega兩塊顯卡。

to help crunch those GPU effects.

以幫助緊縮這些GPU效果。

At the price point we selected,

在我們選擇的價位上。

we should be able to handle heavy editing workflows,

我們應該能夠處理繁重的編輯工作流程。

raw footage in real time,

實時的原始鏡頭。

and pretty decent color work in Resolve.

和Resolve中相當不錯的色彩工作。

We kept the RAM pretty modest,

我們保持了相當適度的RAM。

but did invest in an Afterburner card,

但確實投資了一張Afterburner卡。

which we probably won't use very much,

我們可能不會經常使用。

but we really wanted to see how it performs.

但我們真的想看看它的性能如何。

- So, that's our Mac Pro.

- 所以，這就是我們的Mac Pro。

Spoiler alert, we also bought a Threadripper PC

劇透，我們還買了一臺Threadripper電腦。

to compare it to.

來比較。

One, two, three.

一、二、三

We'll get back to that.

我們會回來的。

So, how does this thing perform?

那麼，這個東西的性能如何呢？

- [Stevie] This is not faster than it would take me to do

- 這並不比我做的快。

on my computer, just FYI.

在我的電腦上，只是僅供參考。

I use a 2019 iMac.

我使用的是2019年的iMac。

I'm a heavy user of InDesign, Photoshop and Illustrator,

我是InDesign、Photoshop和Illustrator的重度使用者。

and I dabble in After Effects

我還會用After Effects

if I'm attempting to make a GIF.

如果我試圖製作一個GIF。

It didn't feel faster at all.

一點也不覺得快。

I was working off a server via VPN,

我是通過VPN在服務器上工作的。

so it's possible that was slowing things down,

所以這有可能是拖慢了事情的發展。

but I got the spinning ball often.

但我經常得到旋轉球。

I mostly just worked in InDesign and Photoshop

我主要只是在InDesign和Photoshop中工作

as I normally would,

像我平時一樣。

but honestly, my current setup works fine for what I do.

但老實說，我目前的設置對我的工作來說很好。

I rarely experience any issues with slowness.

我很少遇到任何速度慢的問題。

- Currently, I use a 2019 iMac and I mostly work

- 目前，我使用的是2019年的iMac，我主要是工作

in Premiere Pro and After Effects,

在Premiere Pro和After Effects中。

though sometimes I dip into Logic and Photoshop.

雖然有時我也會涉足Logic和Photoshop。

In After Effects, previewing comps

在After Effects中，預覽comps

with just a handful of effects can be laggy,

只用少量的效果就會很滯後。

so typically, I preview comps in a half or a quarter quality

所以一般情況下，我都會在半數或四分之一的品質中預覽comps。

when I'm trying to work super fast.

當我想超速工作的時候。

I was hoping that when I tested out the Mac Pro,

我在測試Mac Pro的時候就希望。

I wouldn't have that issue, but I ran into the same problems

我不會有這個問題，但我遇到了同樣的問題。

that I do on my iMac at home.

我在家裡的iMac上做的。

Like if I move a shape, all of a sudden,

就像如果我移動一個形狀，突然。

the picture will go from super clear

畫面會從超清晰

to like incredibly pixelated.

到喜歡難以置信的像素化。

And the only way to get rid of that

而唯一的辦法就是擺脫這個

is to render the scene and play it.

是渲染場景並播放。

And the fact that it happened on this computer

而事實上，它發生在這臺電腦上

is pretty crazy.

是相當瘋狂的。

- I use a 2017 MacBook Pro.

- 我使用的是2017年的MacBook Pro。

I have to work pretty fast on "Today, Explained."

"今天，解說 "我得趕快工作。

Sometimes I only get a couple hours

有時候，我只有幾個小時的時間

to turn around a project.

來扭轉一個項目。

But, I don't think the Mac Pro would help me

但是，我不認為Mac Pro會幫助我。

do my job any better than I currently do it.

做我的工作比我現在做的更好。

All the programs that I use run just as fast

我使用的所有程序都運行得一樣快。

on my current computer as they do on the Mac Pro,

在我目前的電腦上，它們和在Mac Pro上一樣。

so there's really no point in getting a Mac Pro for me

所以我真的沒有必要買Mac Pro了

at my current job.

在我現在的工作。

But, if I were working on a much more intensive,

但是，如果我的工作強度更大。

maybe lush project with a hundred, two hundred tracks,

也許鬱鬱蔥蔥的項目有一百，兩百軌道。

I think the Mac Pro could make a difference.

我認為Mac Pro可以有所作為。

- At The Verge, I work on a late 2015 iMac.

- 在The Verge，我用一臺2015年末的iMac工作。

Womp, womp.

Womp，Womp。

I work primarily in Photoshop, Illustrator,

我主要從事Photoshop、Illustrator方面的工作。

After Effects and Cinema 4D.

After Effects和Cinema 4D。

Deadlines are one of the biggest factors for me.

最後期限對我來說是最大的因素之一。

Rendering can take a really long time,

渲染可能需要很長的時間。

especially when working in 3D.

特別是在3D工作時。

I didn't notice any playback slowdowns, so in that regard,

我沒有發現任何播放速度的減慢，所以在這方面。

I guess it's much faster than my normal workstation.

我想它比我的普通工作站快多了。

We created an animated illustration using Cinema 4D

我們使用Cinema 4D製作了一個動畫插圖。

that we would have otherwise been unable to make.

否則我們將無法進行。

Having 32 threads meant that rendering using the CPU

擁有32個線程意味著使用CPU進行渲染。

was much faster than my old iMac.

比我以前的iMac快多了。

The biggest thing was

最大的事情是

the individual apps themselves would be slow.

單個應用本身會很慢。

In Photoshop, I tried to save a PNG and it took forever.

在Photoshop中，我試圖保存一個PNG，但卻花了很長時間。

Illustrator was also slow.

Illustrator也很慢。

Finding a use case that really pushed the GPUs

尋找真正推動GPU發展的用例

was a challenge, especially because at the time

是一個挑戰，特別是因為當時

I was using the computer,

我在用電腦。

none of Adobe's software was optimized to use them.

Adobe的軟件沒有一個是優化使用它們的。

- Did you catch that?

- 你看到了嗎？

None of Adobe's software was optimized to use the GPUs.

Adobe的軟件都沒有針對GPU的使用進行優化。

That's it.

就這樣吧

That's the big story with the Mac Pro.

這就是Mac Pro的大事件。

The hardware is way, way ahead of the software support.

硬件上的支持比軟件上的支持要領先很多很多。

Those GPUs are really fast, if you can light them up.

如果你能把它們點亮的話，那些GPU真的很快。

The Afterburner card seems really fast,

Afterburner卡似乎真的很快。

if you work in ProRes and Final Cut Pro.

如果你在ProRes和Final Cut Pro中工作。

Otherwise, you do get the benefit of having

否則，你會得到的好處是有

so many more CPU cores, but for a lot of people,

這麼多的CPU核心，但對於很多人來說。

it just didn't feel that much faster

只是感覺沒那麼快

because the software we use just isn't ready.

因為我們使用的軟件還沒有準備好。

I mean, look, we tried to edit the review

我的意思是，你看，我們試圖編輯的審查。

that you're watching right now on our Mac Pro

您現在正在我們的Mac Pro上觀看的視頻。

using full res 4K video files in Premiere

在Premiere中使用全分辨率4K視頻文件。

instead of lower res proxies and it dropped frames.

而不是使用低分辨率的代理，而且它還會掉幀。

I went and asked Adobe for a timeline

我去問Adobe公司要了一個時間表

and they basically told me they don't have one yet.

他們基本上告訴我，他們沒有一個呢。

And that's gonna be true for a lot of software,

而且很多軟件都會如此。

not just Creative Cloud.

不僅僅是創意雲。

Apple hasn't had Pro machines at this class for a long time

蘋果已經很久沒有這個級別的Pro機了

and people haven't built software for 'em.

而人們還沒有為他們建立軟件。

So, if you live in Apple's pro apps and use their formats,

所以，如果你生活在蘋果的專業應用中，並使用他們的格式。

it'll be faster but that's not the case for everything else.

它會更快，但其他一切都不是這樣。

Hopefully that will change, but it's gonna take a while.

希望這種情況會有所改變，但這需要一段時間。

The other problem is that the Mac Pro runs

另一個問題是，Mac Pro運行的是

macOS Catalina, which is a little messy.

macOS Catalina，有點亂。

It also killed support for a bunch of older 32 bit software

它還殺死了對一堆舊的32位軟件的支持。

and required upgrades for basically everything else.

並要求對其他的東西進行升級。

If you've got a bunch of Legacy Photoshop plugins,

如果你有一堆Legacy Photoshop插件。

or some weird little app that makes your workflow go,

或一些奇怪的小程序，讓你的工作流程走。

it might just never work.

它可能只是永遠不會工作。

That's not a big deal if you're a single creator,

如果你是單身創客，那也沒什麼大不了的。

or you run a small shop and you can be flexible,

或者你是開小店的，你可以靈活運用。

but for a bigger production house like ours,

但對於我們這樣的大製作公司來說。

it gets complicated pretty fast.

它得到複雜的相當快。

We have to make sure that everything still works together,

我們必須確保所有的東西都還在一起工作。

we have to make sure we can move projects

我們必須確保我們可以移動項目

between people and machines.

人與機器之間。

We generally have to pick stability and reliability

我們一般要選擇穩定性和可靠性

over having the latest thing.

在擁有最新的東西。

A lot of things stop when something breaks around here.

很多事情都是在這裡壞了之後才停止的。

Now, I don't wanna overemphasize this,

現在，我不想過分強調這一點。

software updates are just a fact of life.

軟件更新只是生活中的一個事實。

I just wanna point out that the Mac Pro

我只是想指出，Mac Pro

is not drop it in and go faster.

是不掉進去，走得更快。

It was more like drop it in, update the apps,

更多的是把它丟進去，更新應用。

see what broke, fix that stuff, upgrade some other stuff

看看什麼地方壞了，修復那個東西，升級一些其他的東西。

and then maybe go faster.

然後也許會走得更快。

I think most places are gonna buy one or two first to test

我想大多數地方都會先買一兩個來測試一下

to see how things go,

看看情況如何。

and then they'll decide to place a big order.

然後他們會決定下大單。

That's effectively what we're doing just on camera,

這實際上是我們在做什麼 只是在相機。

and I think it's gonna take us a while.

我想這要花我們一段時間。

To be honest, it's kind of what I expected.

說實話，這也算是我的期待吧。

What I wasn't expecting

我沒有想到的是

is that not everyone loved the display.

是，並不是每個人都喜歡這種展示。

(upbeat techno music)

(歡快的電子音樂)

Apple made a huge deal out of announcing

蘋果大張旗鼓地宣佈

their Pro display XDR, the company's new 32 inch 6K LCD

的Pro display XDR，該公司新的32英寸6K LCD

that can hit 1,600 nits at peak brightness.

可以達到1600尼特的峰值亮度。

It's a local dimming LCD,

這是一個局部調光的LCD。

so the back light is composed of 576 blue LEDs

所以背光燈是由576個藍色LED組成的

that can be individually dimmed or even turned off.

可以單獨調光甚至關閉。

That allows Apple to claim a million to one contrast ratio

這讓蘋果可以宣稱百萬比一的對比度

using certain industry standard test patterns,

使用某些行業標準的測試模式。

and to make a bunch of comparisons

並進行一堆比較

to vastly more expensive OLED reference displays.

到昂貴得多的OLED參考顯示屏。