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  • - I kind of always thought it would be all right.

  • I thought I'd do okay.

  • I have a lot of self-belief.

  • By that, I don't mean arrogance,

  • but I feel like you have to have the courage

  • of your convictions in terms of what you want to do,

  • you have to believe it, and I sound

  • like a motivational speaker.

  • Hi, I'm Simon Pegg, and this is the timeline of my career.

  • [lively jazz piano music]

  • - Tell us about everything.

  • - Well, I believe that the films

  • "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" and "RoboCop"

  • both borrow heavily from my own life experiences.

  • I never thought at any point in my career

  • I would be speaking to Vanity Fair

  • about "Six Pairs of Pants."

  • "Six Pairs of Pants" was a sketch show.

  • It wasn't even on national television in the U.K.,

  • it was on local television, and it was a comedy sketch show.

  • But it's where I met Jessica Hynes

  • and forged a relationship which would

  • carry me forward to "Spaced" and beyond,

  • so it was a very important show in that respect.

  • I think you can probably find bits of it on YouTube.

  • I hope not.

  • I'd come out of university and decided to do

  • stand-up as a way of having some autonomy

  • and not having to wait for the phone to ring.

  • And this comedy sketch show, they put an alert out

  • for stand-ups to come and audition for their show,

  • and my agent just sent me along and I got it.

  • It was just an audition, you know?

  • So I was a stand-up, but I wanted to get back into acting,

  • 'cause that was kinda my first love.

  • I always wanted to be an actor, from when I was a kid,

  • and my mom was sort of into community theater

  • and I used to go along to it with her,

  • and I was in a load of shows when I was a kid.

  • And when I was about 15, I realized that I could

  • quite possibly do it as a career,

  • even though I was from essentially,

  • Tatooine, in terms of the town I was in.

  • But I didn't really set out necessarily

  • to be a comedy actor.

  • I wasn't like, "I always wanted to be a comedy actor."

  • I wanted to do everything, you know.

  • - [Interviewer] Right.

  • [someone wails in background] - I think you're upset

  • about the house!

  • [Brian sighs]

  • - Why would I be upset about the house?

  • This house is the one thing I can rely on,

  • it's the one port in a storm.

  • - Yeah, Jess and I just sort of really

  • hit it off on "Six Pairs of Pants."

  • We tried to do as many sketches as we could together.

  • She just made me laugh so much,

  • and that I always find that incredibly

  • sort of attractive in anyone.

  • I love people that make me laugh,

  • and Jess was just an expert at that.

  • And when we came to do a show

  • on the Paramount Comedy Channel called "Asylum,"

  • which Edgar Wright was directing,

  • there was a dearth of female actors in the show.

  • It was mainly stand-up comics,

  • and stand-up, like, sadly, many areas of everywhere,

  • was male-dominated.

  • And I knew a girl, I knew a girl

  • from "Six Pairs of Pants" who was brilliant,

  • and funnier than anybody else in the room,

  • and we should get her.

  • So Jess came along to do "Asylum,"

  • which was directed by Edgar.

  • And there was a producer working on "Asylum"

  • who was moving over to a different network

  • who had the idea of Jess and I having a vehicle

  • written for us to be in, because we worked

  • really well together in "Asylum,"

  • 'cause we'd come off the back of our chemistry

  • on "Six Pairs of Pants."

  • And Jess and I said, "Yeah, we'd love that,

  • "but can we write it?"

  • And so we wrote "Spaced," and we asked if Edgar

  • could direct it because we'd loved working with him

  • on "Asylum," and that was how that little trio came about.

  • I look back on that time and think,

  • "Man, we were so lucky."

  • We were that sort of naive and sure of ourselves,

  • And the people around us as well, the personnel

  • were all fairly young and they were sort of making roads

  • into network TV, and Jess and I just went,

  • "Yeah, okay, but we want to write it."

  • That was our stipulation, like we had

  • any kind of wiggle room to negotiate.

  • but they were like, "Sure, okay."

  • And along the whole way, for a long time,

  • it was just like, "Sure, yeah, okay, yeah."

  • We were enabled.

  • I'd stepped into this world thinking,

  • "Hey, everything just gets handed to you.

  • "This is great."

  • It's not the case.

  • And I don't think "Spaced" would get made now.

  • It would be experimented on, on a deep network,

  • a digital satellite network somewhere,

  • before we even saw the light of the mainstream.

  • We just wanted to make something that really spoke to us,

  • but none of the programs leveled at 20-somethings

  • at the time really spoke to us in any way

  • on a personal level.

  • They were all very aspirational

  • and they were full of beautiful people.

  • As much as we loved "Friends,"

  • we wanted to make the anti-"Friends"

  • and have it be about what unemployed loser dropouts do.

  • And people seemed to respond to it, which was lovely.

  • Oh my God!

  • [zombie gasps]

  • She's so drunk!

  • [chuckles]

  • I wrote a scene in "Spaced" where Tim is playing

  • Resident Evil under the influence of amphetamines

  • and starts to live out the game,

  • which was just an excuse, really, to shoot a sequence

  • where I was jumping around killing zombies.

  • I think it was one of the first things that we shot.

  • Edgar really wanted to sort of lay out his stall

  • and show what kind of show we were making to the producers.

  • And we shot the sequence and we edited it together

  • and showed it and said this is the kind of thing

  • we were gonna do.

  • And I never forget the degree of pride

  • that I felt when "Spaced" aired,

  • just after "Friends" finished on Friday night at 9:30,

  • within minutes of "Friends" finishing,

  • of their being a sort of lovefest on the couch

  • at Central Perk, I blew off a zombie's head

  • on television and felt such a joy, a swell of pride.

  • And after shooting that sequence, Edgar and I

  • were like, "Oh, it'd be great if we could make

  • "a zombie film, wouldn't it?

  • "Our own zombie film.

  • "It could be about just us, you know,

  • "like what would happen if it happened to us?"

  • [laughs] And then that's how it was born.

  • It's a wonderful thing when you step

  • onto a film set of something you have written,

  • because you see your own imagination writ large,

  • you see your own imagination realized in places

  • and situations, and that's really, really amazing.

  • And so, to suddenly find ourselves

  • in the Winchester set, or walking around Crouch End

  • when it's literally teeming with zombies,

  • was an amazing thing, and it still is.

  • I didn't really think of where it was gonna be shown

  • or if it would get shown or whether it would

  • ever see the light of day in any other country

  • other than the U.K.

  • It was just, we were in the moment,

  • we're making our movie and not hobbled

  • by [laughs] the burden of expectation.

  • It was kind of, "Let's just get this on DVD

  • and then we can give it to our moms and that'll be fun."

  • And then it came out in the U.K., and it was well received,

  • and then it started to get attention in the U.S.,

  • and George Romero saw it and a lot

  • of our favorite directors saw it,

  • and there was a little campaign to get

  • it a theatrical release, which it did.

  • And then we went out on tour, on a six-week tour

  • of the U.S., me and Edgar and Nick.

  • It was like being in a band.

  • It was amazing.

  • It was more like being in a band when we went back

  • with "Hot Fuzz," 'cause people had liked our first album,

  • so then we felt like little indie rock stars.

  • Yeah, it was extraordinary.

  • I look back on it now and just think,

  • I'm glad I was that naive in a way.

  • Oh, no, no, I'm serious.

  • I've just come out of a relationship.

  • [Shaun yelps]

  • - Benji, what do you got?

  • - Well, these hard drive platters are just fried.

  • They just made a mess of them.

  • There's just holes in them and stuff,

  • and it's got scorched all the way through.

  • And then there's, look, this one's got

  • a hole in it and stuff.

  • I don't believe it, I can't even look at it.

  • Edgar and I were writing "Hot Fuzz,"

  • and the phone rang upstairs and we put the call through,

  • "Oh, J.J. Abrams is on the phone."

  • I said, "What, the 'Alias' man?"

  • We had a chat and he'd said he'd liked "Shaun of the Dead,"

  • and he'd seen me and Edgar at the Saturn Awards,

  • but he said he [laughs] didn't have the guts

  • to come and say hello, which is hilarious to me

  • because J.J.'s the most gregarious, ebullient human being

  • you could ever meet.

  • But he said, "Do you wanna come and do

  • a bit of 'Mission: Impossible III'?"

  • And I said, "Yeah, all right, why not?"

  • And that was that.

  • It was a really odd.

  • And he said, "I'm gonna send you, I've got this new show."

  • [laughs] This is great.

  • "So I've just done this new show for ABC.

  • "I'll send it to you."

  • And he sent me the whole of the first season

  • of "Lost" on individual DVDs,

  • I got this big box, and I binged the whole show

  • before it had even shown in the U.S.

  • And I just thought, "Oh, this is amazing."

  • Because I'd seen episodes of "Alias,"

  • but I wasn't a regular viewer of the show.

  • But that was it. I was, "Oh, this guy's brilliant.

  • "I'll do this."

  • So I went over and did my little cameo

  • playing Tom Cruise's GPS.

  • And it was just that period of time

  • was a particularly rough patch,

  • And I found myself in L.A. and I didn't really know L.A.

  • I was in some hotel in Beverly Hills,

  • and I couldn't quite understand

  • how I couldn't walk anywhere.

  • I'd step out and I'd look up these long boulevards

  • like, "Where the hell is the shops [laughs] and stuff?

  • "What is this place?"

  • "This is bizarre."

  • So I wound up just stuck in this hotel room

  • for eight days waiting to be called,

  • as these big movies, sometimes,

  • the way they move, it's unpredictable,

  • and [inhales sharply] I was just sorta slowly going insane.

  • And I eventually got to set and I did my bit,

  • but I was totally wired and very jet-lagged,

  • and it was all very surreal.

  • It was very strange to be occupying a space

  • that I had kind of always dreamed of,

  • making a movie in Hollywood with one

  • of the biggest stars in the world,

  • probably the biggest star in the world,

  • and not to be enjoying it particularly.

  • But that all turned around with the next one, thankfully.

  • Well, however you spin this, there's one thing

  • you haven't taken into account.

  • And that's what the team is gonna make of this.

  • [air whooshes] [streamer pops]

  • I think we had the idea for "Hot Fuzz"

  • probably on the "Shaun of the Dead" press tour,

  • 'cause that's when me and Edgar and Nick

  • would all be together and just spending time,

  • and I think Edgar had this, he really wanted

  • to go back to his hometown and blow it up.

  • And the idea of setting an American-style

  • action movie in a very, very sort of parochial,

  • bucolic British setting just sounded really funny to us.

  • We didn't intend to do anything but take it

  • absolutely seriously and play out all those

  • action sequences with utter, terminal intention,

  • but the fact that the context was so weird,

  • that would be where the comedy came from.

  • And that was the idea, to shoot "Lethal Weapon" in Somerset.

  • "Shaun of the Dead" was basically

  • kind of from my life, sort of.

  • I mean, it wasn't a huge stretch.

  • I didn't have to research being

  • a sort of pub-going lazy bastard.

  • But with Nicholas Angel, I had to get out there

  • and really understand what it means to be a police officer

  • in metropolitan London and also out in the sticks,

  • and that required doing a lot of ride-alongs

  • and research trips, and it was really good fun.

  • But I went into it with a greater knowledge of policing.

  • [flash clicks] The notion of transport

  • beaming is like trying to hit a bullet

  • with a smaller bullet, whilst wearing a blindfold,

  • riding a horse.

  • What's that?

  • I got off an aeroplane, a flight from New York

  • back to London and opened my phone,

  • and there was an email from J.J., and it said,

  • "Do you want to play Scotty?"

  • And I was almost annoyed by that.

  • The tenacity of it irked me,

  • [laughs]

  • because you can't just throw the ball into my court

  • like that and expect me to smash it back.

  • I need some time to think about it.

  • But of course, three or four days later,

  • I was like, "Yes, of course!"

  • But it just felt like such a, he was just handing me

  • this massive opportunity, and I wanted dinner and a movie.

  • Oddly, when he offered me the role in "Star Wars,"

  • he did take me out to dinner and offer me over dinner.

  • So he's learning.

  • We laugh a lot, J.J. and I, when we're together.

  • We have horribly painful hysterics together.

  • I don't know what it is, we just set it off in each other.

  • And I just love his company.

  • He's such a can-do person and a sweet, sweet man.

  • And I owe him a lot, you know, in terms of my career,

  • and I'll never be able to thank him enough,

  • but he's a sweetheart.

  • It was my 50th birthday recently,

  • and my wife threw me a surprise party,

  • and he was there, and I was so chuffed,

  • 'cause he flew over, especially, and it was

  • such a sweet thing, and yeah, I love him to pieces.

  • Yeah, that that's such a great gang.

  • I love those guys so much.

  • And I joined the first "Star Trek" fairly late.

  • They'd already got to know each other,

  • and I was joining a party that had been

  • in the swing for quite a while.

  • But they were so welcoming and I was just brought in

  • with open arms and became part of the gang,

  • and that only deepened with the subsequent films

  • And they're a family, in a way.

  • You know, that's corny, but we sort of forged

  • that relationship over those films,

  • and I love them very much.

  • It's just a weird thing sometimes, making films

  • or working in this business, because you forge

  • these incredibly intense, sometimes incredibly brief

  • relationships with people where you're all

  • in this one boat for a specific period of time,

  • all working on the same thing,

  • all working towards the same end,

  • and you see these people more than you see

  • your own family for however many,

  • whether it's 20 days or six months or whatever,

  • and then suddenly it ends.

  • You constantly suffer abandonment in this business,

  • 'cause you, you make these really close,

  • close acquaintances and then suddenly they all disappear.

  • It's no wonder all actors are messed up.

  • But if you get the chance to work with that group

  • again and again, that's a real bonus.

  • And I always think a happy set is a productive set.

  • I don't like sets that feel overwrought

  • or difficult or actors that may,

  • I haven't come across many in my time,

  • but when I have, I've always thought,

  • "[beep] do it," you know?

  • We're just making a film.

  • There's no need to just be such an ass.

  • I haven't said that to them to their face, obviously.

  • Well, maybe I did.

  • [bell dings]

  • - Have you got any plans for dinner at all?

  • - Tonight we will be partaking of a liquid repast

  • as we wend our way up with the Golden Mile.

  • - Yeah, "The World's End" was probably the most personal

  • of all of the three Cornetto movies, as we call them,

  • and it's my favorite, really.

  • I think it's 'cause it's the most sort of grown-up.

  • It's probably the bleakest.

  • That character, Gary King, is just

  • one of my favorite characters I've ever played.

  • I love him. [laughs]

  • It's really fun to play complex characters

  • that are sort of not entirely revealing themselves,

  • that their surface is only a fragment

  • of who they are.

  • And with Gary, he's this really annoying,

  • [laughs] sort of relentlessly cheerful

  • kind of force of nature, but he's also a suicidal alcoholic,

  • and that, for me, was such a great gift of a role

  • because you can allow people, you see it

  • every now and again, before all the truth is revealed

  • in him, you see the cracks, and they're only small,

  • but it's really fun to play that kind of character.

  • And I have fondness for every character I play,

  • but I think Gary was just something special.

  • Again, it was that family vibe.

  • We felt like a sort of a rep company.

  • And we'd had Martin, Martin Freeman,

  • he kind of appears briefly in "Shaun,"

  • and then he's one of the police officers

  • at the beginning of "Hot Fuzz,"

  • and then he's one of the main characters

  • in "The World's End," so when we wrote the film,

  • it was always Martin, Paddy, Eddie, Nick, and Simon.

  • We didn't write the character names, we wrote the actors,

  • 'cause that's who we wanted it to be.

  • It helped us write those characters.

  • - We will, in truth, be blind,

  • drunk!

  • Let me see here.

  • Mm, one half-portion.

  • - Last week, they were a half-portion each.

  • - What about the droid?

  • I remember getting the call that J.J. was doing "Star Wars,"

  • and initially I felt like, "Oh, you've abandoned

  • "us 'Star Trek' people.

  • "He's gone off to the cooler, younger kids."

  • But obviously that was just a moment

  • of irrational jealousy. [laughs]

  • But then he took me out to dinner

  • and asked me if I wanted to play a blobfish.

  • And I said, "Yeah, okay, sure."

  • And then I started going down to the set

  • and I got all my makeup design and met everybody,

  • and being around that set was just amazing for me

  • as a fan of "Star Wars" growing up,

  • 'cause it felt very much like the "Star Wars"

  • I grew up with, and of course Carrie Fisher

  • was there, and Mark Hamill, and Harrison Ford,

  • and these are the people that I idolized as a kid,

  • and so, to get to be hanging out with them

  • was a real dream come true.

  • I had such a huge crush on Carrie Fisher when I was a kid.

  • She was my first sort of stirrings of romantic love

  • was for Carrie Fisher.

  • And I got to spend a little time with her.

  • We had a lovely day when we wandered

  • around the set of the Resistance base together,

  • arm in arm, and we were just [laughs] sort of chatting,

  • and I turned around, we were looking at each other,

  • and I was looking into her eyes and it was the same eyes.

  • Obviously, it sounds really obvious to say it,

  • but it was like I was looking into those eyes

  • that had so sort of captivated me as a kid.

  • And I said, I said, "You know, I've always loved you."

  • And she grabbed my hand and looked

  • at my wedding ring and said, "[beep] you."

  • [laughs]

  • It was the best day of my life.

  • We created something beautiful, Jim, but it's changed.

  • It's really not a game anymore.

  • Are we finished?

  • - I liked how things were when they were.

  • - I loved working for Steven.

  • He's just one of my all-time favorite filmmakers.

  • I just adore him.

  • And he's such great company as well,

  • because he's always happy to talk about his work,

  • and he doesn't crow about it,

  • it's not like it's all about him,

  • but if you bring stuff up, he'll chat,

  • and it's a wonderful thing to get to talk about

  • "Close Encounters" and "Jaws" and "Raiders"

  • with him and have him just tell stories

  • from behind the scenes and, and also

  • to get to just be directed by him.

  • He's a brilliant actors' director, Steven.

  • That's why he's the whole deal.

  • He knows the language of cinema,

  • he knows how to move the camera to create tension,

  • or sadness, or whatever, but he also knows

  • how to get the performances he needs from his actors.

  • One day on the set, he was shooting the "Shining" sequence

  • and he was in the set of Room 237,

  • and it was such a bizarre thing

  • because it's a little bit like when I was on "Star Wars,"

  • but this was almost more precise

  • in that we were on the set of a film

  • that had come out 40 years ago,

  • not least one that had been directed

  • by a very dear friend and mentor of his, Stanley Kubrick.

  • And I said to him, "This must be weird, right?"

  • "I mean, you're on the set of 'The Shining,'

  • "directing the woman in the bath."

  • And he said, "Yeah, it's [beep] weird."

  • [laughs]

  • It was really, really cool.

  • And we're back to where we started.

  • [chains clank] [grunts]

  • So tell me, what happened to your dad?

  • Vaughn's a great guy, and he approached me

  • about "Terminal," which was a film

  • we made in Budapest a few years back.

  • And I really liked the fact that it

  • was a group of essentially ADs,

  • people that have worked on film, a lot of them

  • have worked on the Harry Potter movies at Leavesden,

  • and sort of got themselves together

  • and made themselves a production company,

  • one of whom happened to be dating Margot Robbie,

  • and Margot was a big champion of the script.

  • And I just really liked the fact

  • that they were pulling themselves up by their bootstraps

  • and making a movie and not waiting

  • for someone else to make it for them.

  • They were just going for it.

  • I read the script and I liked it.

  • It was really chewy, it had a lot of dialogue,

  • a lot of one-on-one stuff,

  • and that was a real fun shoot.

  • And then Vaughn sent me the script for "Inheritance,"

  • which, again, felt like quite a theatrical piece.

  • It was very dialogue-heavy, a lot of two-handed stuff

  • with my character Morgan and the character of Lauren,

  • which Lily Collins played.

  • And it just felt like, "Oh, let's do it again.

  • "We had such a fun time in Budapest making 'Terminal,'

  • "and this feels like a really chewy role,

  • "and one that I might not get offered ordinarily."

  • I get offered roles depending on the stuff that I've done.

  • People know me generally for comedy

  • or being sort of a lighthearted character

  • in a big blockbuster, and that tends

  • to be what I get offered, which is why

  • I write a lot of my own stuff.

  • But this was a really different role.

  • This was the role of an incredibly morally ambiguous,

  • sinister, mysterious character who may or may not be

  • on the up-and-up, and I really relished

  • the opportunity to play Morgan.

  • "Inheritance" was the chance to really

  • chew the scenery and be a sort of ambiguous,

  • could be bad guy, could be good guy, you don't know.

  • [laughs]

  • The bizarre Domino Rally of coincidences

  • that have occurred in terms of my love of "Star Trek"

  • and being in "Star Trek," and my love of "Star Wars"

  • and being in "Star Wars," and getting to work

  • with Steven Spielberg, whose films I just ate up as a kid,

  • all those things, I just couldn't have wished

  • for a more wish-fulfillment-style career, really.

  • I feel very, very lucky, and I hope it continues.

  • I just want to work with good people.

  • That's the dream.

- I kind of always thought it would be all right.

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