>> Stephen: HEY, WELCOME BACK, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY FIRST

>> Stephen:嘿，歡迎回來，女士們，先生們，我的第一次。

GUEST TONIGHT IS THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE CYBER SECURITY

今晚的嘉賓是前任網絡安全局局長。

AND INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AGENCY AND THE LATEST PERSON TO

基礎設施安全局和最新人員的報告。

BE FIRED BY THE PRESIDENT VIA TWEET.

被總統通過推特炒掉。

PLEASE WELCOME, CHRISTOPHER KREBS.

歡迎你，克里斯托弗-克雷布斯。

MR. KREBS, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

KREBS先生，謝謝你能來KREBS, 謝謝你來這裡.

>> HEY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.

>> 嘿，謝謝你邀請我。

>> Stephen: NOW, FORMER DIRECTOR OF -- I THINK THAT IS

>> Stephen:現在，前主任... ... 我想那是... ...

THE ACRONYM HOW IT IS PRONOUNCED.

縮寫詞如何發音。

>> MOST PEOPLE KNOW YOU AS THE GUY THAT IS FIRED FOR SAYING

>> 大多數人都知道你是那個因為說了一句話而被解僱的人。

THIS ELECTION WAS QUOTE THE MOST SECURE IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

這次選舉是美國曆史上最安全的選舉。

WHAT LEADS YOU TO SAY IT IS THE MOST SECURE IN AMERICAN HISTORY?

是什麼讓你說它是美國曆史上最安全的？

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

你怎麼知道？

>> WELL, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO SECURE THIS ELECTION FOR FOUR

>> 我們一直在努力確保這次選舉的安全。

YEARS.

年。

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL 50 STATES, THOUSANDS OF

我們已經與所有50個州，數以千計的人合作。

JURISDICTIONS WORKING WITH THE ENTIRETY OF THE INTELLIGENCE

與全部智力活動合作的司法機構：

COMMUNITY, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, WE WORKED TO IMPROVE

社區，國防部，我們努力改善。

AND SECURE THE SYSTEM AND WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE

並確保系統安全，我們只是有很多的信任。

BASED ON THAT WORK, BASED ON THE RELATIONSHIPS AND BASED ON

根據該工作，根據關係，並基於

HONESTLY THE THREATS THAT WE SAW EMERGE AND ABLE TO KNOCKDOWN,

老實說，我們看到的威脅出現了，並能夠敲打。

THERE WAS NO FOREIGN INTERFERENCE WITH THIS ELECTION.

這次選舉沒有受到外國干涉。

>> Stephen: BUT THERE WERE, WE SAW THREATS EMERGE AND KNOCK

>> 斯蒂芬：但在那裡，我們看到威脅出現和敲擊。

THEM DOWN, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE THREATS WERE YOU KNOCKED

你能不能告訴我們你所受到的威脅是什麼？

DOWN?

下降？

>> YES.

>> 是。

SO ABOUT, I THINK AROUND OCTOBER 22ND OR SO THE IRANIANS

那麼，我想大約在10月22日左右，伊朗人就會...

ACTUALLY SENT SOME E-MAILS AROUND, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT

實際上，我已經發了一些電子郵件，你可能會記得，

WERE PURPORTEDLY FROM THE PROUD BOYS.

據說是驕傲的孩子們的。

>> Stephen: OH, RIGHT.

>> Stephen:哦，對了。

>> INTIMIDATING VOTERS AND WE SAW THAT.

>> 恐嚇投票者，我們看到了。

WE WERE ABLE TO CONCLUSIVELY PROVE IT WAS NOT IRANIANS AND

我們能夠最終證明，它不是伊朗人，也不是伊朗人。

GOT INFORMATION OUT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND ABOUT 27

向美國人民提供了資訊，並對27個國家進行了宣傳。

HOURS FROM THE FIRST DETECTION OF THOSE E-MAILS TO THE ACTUAL

從第一次發現這些郵件到實際收到郵件的時間。

PRESS CONFERENCE AND I THINK THAT WAS JUST A REAL HISTORIC

新聞發佈會，我認為這是一個真正的歷史性的

RAPID DEBUNKING OF THREATS TO OUR ELECTIONS.

迅速揭開對我們選舉的威脅。

>> Stephen: YOU TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT AGAINST FOREIGN AND

>> 你曾發誓要保護自己不受外國和美國人的傷害

DOMESTIC THREATS.

國內威脅：

WE EXPECTED THE FOREIGN THREATS.

我們期待著外國的威脅。

DID YOU EXPECT THESE DOMESTIC THREATS TO OUR FAITH IN THE

你是否預料到這些國內的威脅會對我們的信仰造成影響？

INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION?

我們選舉的完整性？

BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS BEEN GIVING THE PRESIDENT A LOT OF ROPE,

因為大家都給了總統很大的壓力。

GIVE HIM TIME, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE HAS EVER LOST W HAVE TO

給他點時間，這是他第一次輸掉比賽。

HANDLE HIM WITH KIDS GLOVES BUT HE IS JUST GETTING WORSE.

用孩子的手套處理他，但他只是變得更糟。

>> SO EVERYONE THAT ENTERS FEDERAL SERVICE PLEDGES AN OATH

>> 是以，每個進入聯邦服務的人都要宣誓。

TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION FROM THREATS FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC AND

捍衛憲法不受國內外的威脅，以及

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

所以這就是我們所做的。

WE WENT IN, WE PUT COUNTRY OVER PARTY, YEAH I AM A LIFELONG

我們進去了，我們把國家放在了黨之上，是的，我是一個終身的。

REPUBLICAN, I AM NOT ASHAMED TO ADMIT IT BUT ULTIMATELY IT WAS

共和黨人，我並不羞於承認這一點，但歸根結底，它是......。

MORE IMPORTANT THAT THIS AMERICAN EXPERIMENT THAT TIMES

更重要的是，這種美國的經驗，時代。

CAN SEEM SO FRAGILE, WE HAD TO PROTECT IT AND MOVE FORWARD AND

可以看起來如此脆弱，我們不得不保護它，並向前邁進，並。

YEAH, THERE WAS DOMESTIC DISINFORMATION AND IT CONTINUES

是的，有國內的資訊洩露，而且還在繼續。

TO THIS DAY THAT IS ACTIVELY UNDERMINING THE AMERICAN VOTER'S

直到今天，它還在積極地破壞著美國選民的利益。

CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS AND I THINK IT IS JUST -- IT HAS GOT

對程序的信任，我認為這只是 -- -- 它已經得到了。

TO STOP.

它是一個停止。

IT HAS TO STOP.

它必須停止。

>> Stephen: NOW, YOU ARE A HIGH TECH GUY, I SAW THE CYBER

>> Stephen:現在，你是一個高科技的傢伙，我看到了cyber

IN THE TITLE THERE, BUT YOU LOVE PAPER BALLOTS.

在標題那裡，但你愛紙質選票。

WHY DO YOU LOVE PAPER BALLOTS SO MUCH?

為什麼你這麼喜歡紙質選票？

CAN WE MAKE IT EVEN MORE PRIMITIVE?

我們能讓它變得更重要嗎？

SHOULD WE JUST GO WITH JELLYBEANS IN A CAN, WHAT ABOUT

我們是否應該只用罐裝的果凍豆呢？

YOUR STICK YOUR FINGER IN THE DYE THING PEOPLE DO SOMEWHERE IN

你的手指插在染料上的事情，人們在某個地方做的。

THE WORLD?

世界？

>> THAT IS I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE EXTREME, BUT LOOK THE

>> 那是我認為這可能是一個有點過分，但看看。

APPROACH HERE IS KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID, AND PART OF WHAT PAPER

這裡的方法是讓它簡單，愚蠢，和什麼紙的一部分。

GIVES YOU IS SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT YOU CAN RUN BACK AND YOU

給你的是一些棘手的東西，你可以跑回來，你。

CAN CHECK.

可以檢查。

YOU HAVE GOT BASICALLY YOU HAVE THE RECEIPTS AND YOU CAN GO BACK

你已經得到了基本的你有食譜，你可以回去了。

AND CONFIRM THE OUTCOME, AND SO I THINK PROGRESS THAT ELECTION

並確認結果，所以我認為進展選舉。

OFFICIALS MADE OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF GETTING MORE PAPER

官員們在過去四年獲得更多文件的情況下所做的工作。

BASED, PAPER BASED SYSTEMS OUT THERE, WE HAVE GOT TO CONTINUE

基礎，紙質系統在那裡，我們必須繼續... ...

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL PAPER BASED AND POST ELECTION AUDITS

我們必須有所有的紙質基礎和選舉後的審計。

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING HAVE TO DO TO RESTORE

這些是我們必須做的事情，以恢復。

CONFIDENCE IN THE ELECTIONS.

對選舉的信任；

>> Stephen: SO WITH SO MANY AMERICANS RIGHT NOW, AND WHO

>> 斯蒂芬: 現在有那麼多美國人，而誰又能在這個世界上生存下去呢？

KNOWS IT MIGHT BE A FLEETING LOSS OF CONFIDENCE, BUT WITH SO

知道這可能是一個失信於人的行為，但與此同時，也有那麼一

MANY AMERICANS RIGHT NOW WITH A LOSS OF CONFIDENCE CAN IN OUR

許多美國人現在失去了信心，他們可以在我們的。

ELECTIONS, WHAT DO YOU THINK CAN BE DONE TO RESTORE THAT?

選舉，你認為可以做些什麼來恢復它？

>> THERE IS THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME MOST RIGHT NOW, IS

>> 我現在最擔心的事情，就是

THESE NUMBERS YOU CITE, WE SEE IT ALL OVER THE PLACE IN

你引用的這些數字，我們到處都能看到。

TRADITIONAL MEDIA AND SOCIAL MEDIA THERE ARE PEOPLE ACTIVELY

傳統媒體和社會媒體中，有一些人在積極地使用傳統媒體。

QUESTIONING WHETHER THEY SHOULD EVEN PARTICIPATE IN DEMOCRACY,

質疑他們是否應該參與民主制度。

AND MY MENTION TO THEM IS YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD HAVE

我想說的是，你絕對應該有。

CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ELECTION OFFICIALS THE FIRST THING WE

對選舉官員的信任是我們的第一要務。

NEED TO DO IS CONTINUE INVESTING NO DEMOCRACY, I THINK CONGRESS

需要做的是繼續投資不民主，我認為國會。

NEEDS TO FUND MORE GRANTS TO MODERNIZE SYSTEMS, THE SECOND IS

需要提供更多的贈款，以實現系統的現代化，第二是：

WE HAVE TO GET PAPER BALLOTS OUT THERE TO 100 PERCENT, WE ARE

我們必須把紙條弄到100％，我們... ...

PROBABLY AT ABOUT 90 PERCENT RIGHT NOW.

現在大概在90%左右。

WE NEED 100 PERCENT PAPER BALLOTS AND MEANINGFUL POST

我們需要百分之百的紙質選票和有意義的郵票。

ELECTION AUDITS, AND THE THIRD THING IS, WE HAVE GOT TO GET

選舉審計，第三件事是，我們必須得到的。

CIVIC EDUCATION BACK ON THE BOOKS IN K-12 AND PROBABLY WITH

公民教育重新回到K-12的書本上，並可能與之相伴。

ADULTS TOO SO WE HAVE GOT TO DO MORE TO EDUCATE ON HOW ELECTIONS

成人也是如此，所以我們必須做更多的工作來教育人們如何進行選舉。

WORK AND THEY ARE NOT JUST EVERY FOUR YEARS.

工作，而且它們不只是每四年一次。

>> Stephen: ON TUESDAY, GEORGIA ELECTION OFFICIAL DWAYNE

>> Stephen:週二，喬治亞州選舉官員DWAYNE。

STERLING WARNED SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET KILLED DUE TO TRUMP

斯特林警告說，有人會因為特朗普而被殺。

AND HIS FOLLOWERS RHETORIC.

和他的追隨者們RHETORIC。

TRUMP LAWYER YES NOVA, I THINK, EVEN MADE A THREAT ABOUT YOU,

特朗普的律師，是的，我想，甚至還威脅過你。

YOU SHOULD BE DRAWN AND QUARTERED AND SHOT AT DAWN.

你應該在黎明時分被拉開，四分，然後被射殺。

DO YOU HAVE A MESSAGE TO THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS WHO ARE

你有什麼話要對共和黨領導人說嗎？

FANNING THESE FLAMES?

煽動這些火焰？

>> LOOK, WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING ELECTION OFFICIALS

>> 聽著，我們應該慶祝選舉官員的到來

AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE, GETTING THEM INTO THEIR

還有那些在外面的人，把他們帶進自己的房間

JOBS, NOT FANNING THESE FLAMES AS YOU PUT IT, WHERE THEY ARE

工作，而不是像你說的那樣把這些火焰燒掉，它們在哪裡？

THE -- THEY ARE GETTING TARGETED AND THEY ARE GETTING DEATH

該 - 他們得到的目標，他們得到的死亡。

THREATS.

威脅：

THEY ARE THE HEROES OUT THERE.

他們是英雄在那裡。

WE NEED TO DO MORE TO SUPPORT THEM AND PROTECT THEM AND THE

我們需要做更多的工作來支持他們，保護他們和他們的家人。

REAL, YOU KNOW, THE LONGER TAIL ON THIS ISSUE IS THAT THESE

真正的，你知道，這個問題上的長尾是，這些。

DEATH THREATS ARE GOING TO HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT ON ELECTION

死亡威脅將對選舉產生寒蟬效應。

OFFICIALS GOING FORWARD.

官員們繼續前進。

I MEAN, WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO BE AN ELECTION

我的意思是，誰在正常的頭腦中會想成為一個選舉。

OFFICIAL NEXT CYCLE IF THE ELECTION DOESN'T TURN OUT THE

正式的下一個週期，如果選舉沒有結果的話。

WAY THAT SOME MINORITY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SEND DEATH THREATS

一些少數人的方式，他們將發送死亡威脅。

TO YOU.

給你。

THIS IS NOT HOW DEMOCRACY CAN WORK.

這不是民主的工作方式。

>> Stephen: LAST NIGHT, AND I KNOW WE HAVE TO GET GOING HERE

>> 昨天晚上，我知道我們必須要走了。

BUT I WANT, I SAW THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH LAST NIGHT,

但我想，我昨晚看了總統的演講。

THE PRESIDENT WENT ON A 46 MINUTE RANT THAT HAS BEEN CALLED

總統進行了46分鐘的咆哮，被稱為是

BY SOME THE MOST DISHONEST SPEECH OF HIS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY.

由一些最不誠實的講話 他的整個總統任期。

I WOULD LIKE TO RUN SOME OF THE CLAIMS THAT HE SAID LAST NIGHT

我想查一下他昨晚說的一些話。

AND HAVE YOU FACT CHECK THEM, IF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW THE FACTS OF

如果你真的知道這些事實，你有沒有對這些事實進行核實？

THESE.

這些。

THERE WERE GLIMPSE IN THE DOMNION VOTING SYSTEM THAT

在多米尼克投票系統中存在著一個小插曲，即

CHANGED VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.

將選票從特朗普改為比登。

>> SO I THINK THAT IS THE ANSWER OF COUNTY MICHIGAN ISSUE AND

>> 所以我想這就是密歇根州問題的答案。

THAT WAS JUST TWO DATABASES THAT WEREN'T STINKING UP, SINKING IS

那只是兩個沒有沉沒的數據庫，沉沒是指

UP PROPERLY AND THEY FIXED IT AND NO ISSUES, THEY HAD PAPER

他們把它修好了，沒有問題，他們有紙。

BALLOTS, BY THE WAY THAT THEY ALWAYS HAD --

投票，按照他們一直以來的方式 -- --

>> Stephen: SO THAT'S A NO?

>> 史蒂芬：所以這就是一個 "不"？

>> VOTES MADE ON A DOMINION VOTING SYSTEM ARE COUNTED IN

>> 在多民族投票系統上所進行的投票均計入票數。

FOREIGN COUNTRIES.

外國：

>> OH THIS ONE AGAIN.

>> 哦，這一個又來了。

BALLOTS ALL OF THOSE ARE COUNTED IN THE UNITED STATES.

所有這些選票都在美國計算。

I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS ONE.

我甚至不明白這一個。

I JUST DON'T.

我只是不。

>> Stephen: IN PENNSYLVANIA, BALLOTS WERE TAKEN AND COUNTED

>> 斯蒂芬: 在賓夕法尼亞州，選票已被採集和計算。

AT A TOP SECRET LOCATION AWAY FROM POLL WATCHERS.

在一個遠離民意觀察者的絕密地點。

>> YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE TO BE FALSE, IN FACT I THINK THE

>> 是的，我知道那是假的，事實上我認為是假的。

PRESIDENT TOLD THE LAWYERS THAT THERE WAS A NONZERO NUMBER OF

主席告訴律師們，現在有零的數量。

OBSERVERS IN THE ROOM.

房間裡的觀察者：

>> Stephen: THE PRESIDENT SAID IN NEVADA YOU CAN SIGN YOUR NAME

>> 史蒂芬：總統在內華達州可以簽下你的名字。

IN SANTA CLAUS AND YOUR VOTE WOULD BE ACCEPTED.

在聖誕老人和你的投票將被接受。

>> THAT DEPENDS IS YOUR NAME SANTA CLAUS?

>> 這取決於你的名字是聖誕老人？

IF YOUR NAME IS SANTA CLAUS, THEN, YES.

如果你的名字是聖誕老人，那麼，是的。

>> Stephen: GOOD POINT.

>> Stephen:好點子。

>> THEY CHECK SIGNATURES.

>> 他們檢查簽名。

>> Stephen: GOOD POINT IN ARIZONA MAIL-IN BALLOTS WERE

>> 斯蒂芬: 亞利桑那州郵寄投票的好點子是什麼？

STOLEN FROM MAILBOXES AND HIDDEN UNDER A ROCK.

從信箱裡偷來的，藏在石頭下面。

>> THAT ONE IS TRUE.

>> 這一條是真的。

THERE WERE BALLOTS THAT HAS NOT BEEN CAST YET.

有一些選票還沒有投出去。

BUT IT IS BEING INVESTIGATED AND THOSE VOTERS THAT -- WHOSE

但它正在被調查，而那些投票者，誰的... ...

BALLOTS WERE STOLEN THEY WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO STILL

選票被偷，他們有機會繼續投票。

VOTE AFTERWARDS AND NOTIFIED.

事後投票和通知。

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> Stephen:好的

IN WISCONSIN, AT 3:42 A.M. ON ELECTION NIGHT THERE WAS A QUOTE

在威斯康星州，在選舉當晚凌晨3點42分，有一則消息：

MASSIVE DUMP OF SUSPICIOUS VOTES FOR BIDEN.

大量的可疑票投給比登。

HE HAD A CHART.

他有一個圖表。

>> YEAH.

>> 是的。

I AM UNCOMFORTABLE TALKING ABOUT THIS, JUST THE MASSIVE DUMP

我不舒服談論這個，只是巨大的DUMP。

THING.

事情。

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> Stephen:好的

>> BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS VOTES ARE SORTED SOMETIMES BEFORE THEY

>> 但發生的事情是，投票在某些時候被分揀之前，就已經開始了。

WERE ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM AND YOU MIGHT SEE STACKS OF BIDEN

進入系統後，您可能會看到一疊標書。

STACKS OF TRUMP AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY SORTED AND THEY

堆積的特朗普和發生了什麼事，是他們的分類和他們的。

ENTERED IT IN, BUT AGAIN PAPER BALLOTS, PAPER BALLOTS, THE ONES

輸入了它，但又是紙質選票，紙質選票，那張選票

AND ZEROS IN THESE MACHINES IS NOT THE IMPORTANT THING.

而這些機器中的零點並不是最重要的東西。

THE IT IS PAPER BALLOTS.

它是紙質選票。

>> Stephen: RUDY GIULIANI PERSONALLY SAW DEAD PEOPLE

>> Stephen:RUDY GIULIANI PERSONALLY SAW DEAD POPPERSIONY

VOTING, HE WAS BITTEN BY ONE OF THEM, IT HAS BECOME A ZOMBIE

投票的時候，他被其中一個人咬了一口，已經變成了一隻殭屍

SITUATION AND THAT'S WHY HE IS SLOWLY MELTING BEFORE OUR EYES.

這就是為什麼他在我們眼前慢慢融化的原因。

>> STEPHEN, I THINK WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT --

>> 史蒂芬，我想我們繼續下一個 --

>> Stephen: I MADE THAT ONE UP.

>> 史蒂芬：這是我編的。

I MADE THAT ONE UP.

我做了一個了。

I WAS JUST CHECKING.

我只是想確認一下

I WAS JUST CHECKING.

我只是想確認一下

WELL CHRISTOPHER KREBS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

好吧，克里斯托弗-克雷布斯，非常感謝你。

THANK YOU FOR HELPING MAKE OUR ELECTIONS SECURE.

謝謝你們幫助我們保證了選舉的安全。

THANK YOU FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING AND SAYING THE RIGHT THING

謝謝你做了正確的事，說了正確的話。

PUBLICLY.

公開地。

>> THANK YOU.

>> 謝謝你。

>> Stephen: STAY SAFE.

>> 史蒂芬：保持安全。

>> THANK YOU.

>> 謝謝你。

>> Stephen: CHRISTOPHER KREBS, EVERYBODY, WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK

>> CHRISTOPHER KREBS，各位，我們馬上回來。

WITH AUBREY PLAZA.

與AUBREY PLAZA。