WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF "LONG TIME COMING: RECKONING

我們再次邀請到了《久遠的未來：重新開始》的作者。

WITH RACE IN AMERICA," MICHAEL ERIC DYSON.

與種族在美國，"邁克爾-埃裡克-戴森。

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO SAY BASICALLY

你對外面那些說基本話的人說什麼？

AMERICA IS ON A DEMOGRAPHIC TRAJECTORY TO CHANGE OUR

美國正走在改變我們的人口軌跡上。

ATTITUDES ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, RACE BEING ONE OF THEM, THAT

對許多事情的態度，種族是其中之一，這

BASICALLY, THE NEXT GENERATION WILL REPLACE THE PRESENT

基本上，下一代人將取代現在的人。

GENERATION THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT THE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE

不願接受需要改變的世代

MADE?

做的？

>> YEAH, THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK

>> 是的，我唯一的問題是，當你看到的是

AT THE TIKI TORCH BEARERS, THEY WERE YOUNG, WELL COIFFED, HAD

在TIKI TORCH BEARERS，他們是年輕的，有很好的髮型，有很好的身體。

NICE HAIR DOS, BUT THEY WERE PROMOTING NEOFASCISM AND

漂亮的頭髮，但他們是在宣揚NEOFASCISM，而不是在鼓動他們。

NEO-NAZIISM.

新納粹主義。

IN OTHER WORDS, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE YOUNGER DOESN'T MEAN

換句話說，只是因為你更年輕，並不意味著

YOU'RE MORE ENLIGHTENED.

你更開朗了。

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REAL INTENTION TO CHANGE THE WORLD AS

你必須要有一個真正的意圖來改變世界，因為這是你的目標。

WE SEE IT.

我們看到了。

A PEW REPORT STUDY SAID THAT EXCEPT FOR INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE,

PEW REP報告研究指出，除了相互間的婚姻。

MILLENNIALS THINK THE SAME THING ABOUT RACE AS THE BOOMERS DID.

千禧一代對種族問題的看法，與繁榮時期的人是一樣的。

SO STOP WITH THE "OKAY BOOMER," STUFF, BECAUSE YOU THINK THE

所以別再說什麼 "好吧，繁榮 "之類的話了，因為你覺得 "好吧，繁榮"。

SAME THINGS THAT THEY DID.

他們所做的同樣的事情。

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, BESIDES INTERRACIAL

在一天結束的時候，除了交互式的之外，

RELATIONSHIPS, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME PAGE.

關係，他們是相當多的 在同一頁上。

THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT REAL WORK TO DO, AND JUST BEING YOUNG

這意味著我們有真正的工作要做， 而只是年輕。

AIN'T ENOUGH.

不夠。

>> Stephen: THE BOOK ENDS WITH A PLEA FOR HOPE.

>> 斯蒂芬：這本書以希望之書結束。

HOW DO YOU STAY HOPEFUL?

你如何保持樂觀的態度？

WHAT GIVES YOU HOPE RIGHT NOW?

現在給你希望的是什麼？

WELL, YOU KNOW, LOOK, BESIDES WATCHING YOUR SHOW AND SEEING

好了，你知道，你看，除了看你的節目，並看到。

YOU DIRECTLY THE MOST EDIFYING VENOM AGAINST THE MOST VICIOUS

你直接用最先進的毒液來對付最凶殘的人。

PRESIDENCY WE'VINE SEEN, I DIG INTO MY FAITH.

總統我們藤蔓看到了，我挖到了我的信仰。

AND I SAY, LOOK, HOWARD THURMAN, ONE OF THE GREAT MISTACS IN MY

我說，看，HOWARD THURMAN，我的一個偉大的MISTACS的

TRADITION, SAID YOU CAN'T REDUCE YOUR DREAMS TO THE EVENT YOU'RE

傳統，說你不能減少你的夢想的事件，你是。

CONFRONTING RIGHT NOW.

面對現在。

THE THING YOU'RE CONFRONTING RIGHT NOW MAY LOOK LIKE A HUGE

你現在所面對的事情可能看起來像一個巨大的。

OBSTACLE.

OBSTACLE：

BUT OUR SLAVE FORPARENTS ENVUGZED THE WORLD.

但我們的奴隸父母讓世界充滿了活力。

YOU CAN BE A PRISONER OF EVENT OR A PRISONER OF HOPE.

你可以是事件的囚徒，也可以是希望的囚徒。

I CHOOSE TO BE A PRISONER OF HOPE.

我選擇做一個希望的囚徒。

NO MATTER HOW DARK IT GETS, IT CAN BE BRIGHTER.

無論天色多暗，它都可以更亮。

NO MATTER HOW HORRIBLE THINGS LOOK, THEY CAN BE MADE BETTER.

不管事情看起來有多糟糕，都可以做得更好。

AND NO MATTER HOW WE HAVE GIVEN IN TO THE WORST ANGELS OF OUR

不管我們如何向我們最壞的天使屈服。

SOULS, WE CAN APPEAL TO THE BETTER ANGELS OF OUR NATURE.

靈魂，我們可以求助於我們本性中更好的天使。

>> Stephen: WELL, CAN THE TIME IS AVAILABLE NOW.

>> Stephen:好了，可以時間現在可用。

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, EVERYBODY.

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON，每個人。

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

我們馬上回來。

MICHAEL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

邁克爾，謝謝你來這裡。