which airs weekday mornings at 6:00 a.m. on MSNBC.

該節目於每週日早上6點在MSNBC播出。

Here are Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski!

這是喬-斯卡伯勒和米卡-布熱津斯基！

-Hey, how you doing? -Nice to see you.

-嘿，你好嗎？-很高興見到你

There's a lot I want to talk to you both about.

我有很多話想跟你們倆說。

First of all, thank you for just surviving this election cycle.

首先，感謝你能在這個選舉週期中倖存下來。

This has been pretty crazy. -Or a presidency.

這真是太瘋狂了-或者說是一個總統職位

-Yeah, no, it's been a crazy four or five years,

-是的，不，這是一個瘋狂的四年或五年。

so I think all of us are exhausted.

所以我想我們大家都累壞了。

We actually thought before 2016 --

其實在2016年之前，我們就認為--

we told our boss, Phil Griffin, at MSNBC.

我們告訴我們的老闆，菲爾・格里芬，在MSNBC。

I said, "Listen, after Hillary wins, this is exhausting."

我說："聽著，希拉里贏了之後，這很累人。"

-Take a break. -"We're going to take --

-休息一下。-"我們將採取 --

we're going to take about a two-month break."

我們要休息兩個月左右。"

-[ Laughs ] -And that never happened.

-而這一切都沒有發生。

-Never. -No.

-沒有-沒有

And I also want to mention, congrats on your anniversary.

我還想提一下，恭喜你們的週年紀念日。

Is it two years married for you guys?

你們結婚兩年了嗎？

-[ Laughs ] -Well, you know,

-好吧，你知道的。

it's very interesting, Jimmy, you say that.

很有趣，吉米，你這麼說。

Actually, I know that. -Thank you!

其實，我知道-謝謝你！

I know that too. -And you know that.

我也知道-你也知道

-I know that. -Uh-oh.

-我知道-我知道

-But right before we came on the show,

-但就在我們上節目之前。

I turned to Mika... -No, I know that.

我轉向美嘉...-不，我知道

-...and I said, "Hey, do you know what today is, honey?"

-我說："嘿，你知道今天是什麼日子嗎，親愛的？"

And she said, "Uh, no, why?" -No, come on.

她說："呃，不，為什麼？"-不，來吧。

-Oh, my goodness. -It's our two-year anniversary.

-哦，我的天啊-今天是我們的兩週年紀念日

She still doesn't know what month I was born in.

她還是不知道我是幾月出生的。

So that's my birthday. -Listen.

所以，這是我的生日。-聽著

-So it doesn't matter. -When we did the show

-所以這並不重要.-當我們做節目的時候

this morning and I said what the date was to everybody,

今天早上，我跟大家說了日期是什麼。

something hit me that it was a special day.

我覺得今天是個特別的日子。

-You knew it was special. -No.

-你知道這很特別-你知道它很特別

-Yeah. -It was something about it.

-是的 是關於它的一些事情。

-Something. -Some of us -- Some of us knew

一些東西。 - 我們中的一些人...-我們中的一些人 -- 我們中的一些人知道

it was special, and it really is now.

它是特別的，它真的是現在。

Now it's doubly special.

現在加倍特別了。

Congrats on that, guys.

恭喜你，夥計們。

I love seeing you guys together.

我喜歡看到你們在一起。

I love seeing you separately as well.

我也喜歡分別見你。

But together, it's unbelievable. It's magic.

但結合在一起，就不可思議了。這是神奇的。

You guys were hosting a special Saturday edition.

你們在舉辦週六特別版。

They kept adding these special editions of your show,

他們一直在添加這些特別版的你的節目。

of "Morning Joe." -Yeah, it just kept going.

的 "早安喬"。 - 是的，它只是繼續下去。-是啊，它只是繼續前進。

-And, man, I honestly -- I applaud you.

-而且，夥計，我真的... ... 我為你鼓掌。

Thank you so much.

非常感謝你。

The American people thank you for just being on the air.

美國人民感謝你在直播中的表現。

But you -- MSNBC made the call

但你... ... MSNBC做了電話

that Joe Biden had become President-elect.

喬-拜登已成為當選總統。

Joe, what was it like for you to make that announcement?

喬，你宣佈這個消息是什麼感覺？

-Well, you know, something happened to me

-嗯，你知道，有些事情發生在我身上。

that's never happened before in like -- what? --

這是從來沒有發生過的 在像 - 什麼？

17 years in television.

在電視臺工作了17年。

I had somebody say into my ear that Joe Biden is going...

有人在我耳邊說喬-拜登要...

-Alex. -...to be the 46th President

-亞歷克斯亞歷克斯 -... 將成為第46任總統。

of the United States. Our EP Alex said that.

的美國。我們的EP Alex說：

And I was supposed to, you know, do the Brian Williams --

我本來應該，你知道，做布萊恩-威廉姆斯 -

"We have just received..." -He's good at it.

"我們剛剛收到..."-他很在行

-"...word that Joe Biden

--"......話說喬-拜登。

will be the next President of the United States."

將成為下一任美國總統。"

I got, "Joe Biden is," and then I had to stop.

我得到了 "喬-拜登是"，然後我不得不停下來。

-And I got worried. -The last thing I wanted to do

-我開始擔心了.-我最不想做的事

was have anybody hear any emotion in my voice.

是有誰聽出了我的聲音裡有任何情緒。

We were, especially since it was election coverage,

我們是，特別是因為這是選舉報道。

I wanted to play it straight down the middle.

我想直接從中間打過去。

Everybody knew that we were supporting

大家都知道我們在支持

Joe Biden over President Trump.

喬-拜登比特朗普總統。

But at the same time,

但與此同時。

the last thing I wanted to do was get emotional.

我最不想做的事情就是情緒化。

-Start crying. -With a Cronkite moment,

-開始哭泣-有了克朗凱特的時刻。

taking off my glasses.

脫掉我的眼鏡。

So I said, "Mika." -Yeah.

所以我說，"米卡"-是的

-And she said -- then she did the whole thing.

-她說... 然後她做了整個事情。

-Well, your work has paid off.

-好吧，你的工作得到了回報。

MSNBC and your show in particular

特別是MSNBC和你的節目

have been fantastic in the ratings.

在收視率上一直表現出色。

So congrats on that if that makes you feel any better.

所以，恭喜你，如果這讓你感覺更好。

But I don't even know if you care.

但我甚至不知道你是否在意。

At this point, you're like, "Let's just --"

在這一點上，你會說，"我們只是... ..."

-Nope. -"We just want a weekend off."

-"我們只想過個週末"。

-Yes. -Yeah, exactly.

-是的 是的，沒錯

-It feels like there's never been a slow news day

-感覺就像從來沒有一個緩慢的新聞日。

during Trump's presidency.

在特朗普任內，。

-There hasn't been.

-沒有

In fact, since the campaign, and as Joe said, we wanted --

事實上，從競選開始，正如喬所說，我們想... ...

every time you would want to take a break,

每次你想休息的時候。

every time you go take a break, it follows you.

每次你去休息的時候，它就會跟著你。

And now, literally, in this pandemic,

而現在，從字面上看，在這場大瘟疫中。

you cannot leave your job.

你不能離開你的工作。

It is there with you 24/7.

它24小時與你同在。

And with this president,

而與這位總統。

it has been one you-know-what after another.

它一直是一個你知道什麼，一個又一個。

-Yeah, is this going to change the pace

-是啊，這是要改變節奏嗎？

of all news shows in general?

在所有新聞節目中，一般?

-I hope. I mean, don't you hope?

-我希望我是說，你不希望嗎？

-Yeah.

-是的

-I'd take boring.

-我會選擇無聊的。

We can't wait to be boring.

我們不能等閒視之。

-[ Laughing ] Yeah. -Yeah, I mean, I do think,

-是啊 是啊，我是說，我是這麼認為的。

though, actually one of the problems

不過，其實其中一個問題

over the past four years --

在過去四年裡 -- --

actually probably over the past couple of decades --

實際上，可能在過去的幾十年裡，

is that politics has become a blood sport.

是政治已經成為一項血腥的運動。

People turn to their channel.

人們轉向他們的管道。

-You call it a shock opera.

-你說這是一出震撼人心的歌劇

-Yeah, it is a shock opera,

-是的，這是一部震撼人心的歌劇。

and people root for their team, root for their side.

而人們為自己的團隊，為自己的一方紮根。

-I think we've been desensitized as well

-我想我們也已經脫敏了

to shocking news from the presidency.

到來自總統府的驚人消息。

And it's going to take a long time to unwind this,

而且要花很長時間才能解開這個問題。

no matter what side of this you're on.

不管你站在哪一邊，都是如此。

-Yeah, and both sides watch your show.

-是啊，兩邊都看你的節目。

I will say that, too.

我也會這麼說。

I mean, it's good to have the conversation with them.

我是說，能和他們對話是件好事。

-Absolutely. -Yeah, it is.

-當然了.-是的，是這樣的

And I think, you know, we used to go and give an awful lot

我想，你知道，我們曾經去 並給出了一個可怕的很多。

of speeches to civic groups,

對民間團體的演講。

and we just stopped doing it over the past several years

我們只是停止這樣做 在過去的幾年裡，

in colleges because things became so intense.

在大學裡，因為事情變得如此激烈。

It used to be that Mika would get up

以前美嘉都會起來的

and she would take the more liberal view.

而她會採取比較自由的觀點。

I'd take the more conservative view.

我會採取比較保守的觀點。

-We switched all around.

-我們換了個地方

-We had this really fun back-and-forth.

-我們有這個非常有趣的來回。

And let's just say the fun has gone away a little bit

而我們只能說，樂趣已經消失了一點。

in the past couple years when it comes to talking about politics.

在過去的幾年裡，當談到政治。

Let's hope we can get back to a place where we can talk civilly

希望我們能回到一個可以文明交流的地方去

about it again and at least be operating

重提此事，至少是在經營

from the same set of facts.

從同一組事實出發。

-[ Chuckles ] Well, Jimmy, when the show started --

-嗯，吉米，當節目開始的時候 --

So, I was sort of the straight man.

所以，我算是個直男。

And then I saw myself on "Saturday Night Live"

然後我在 "週六夜現場 "上看到了自己的身影

and realized what's happened over the past four years

並意識到過去四年發生的事情。

is we've switched roles. -Yeah.

是我們已經換了角色。-是的

-And I've become the crazy one. -You know, the funny thing is

-而我成了那個瘋狂的人.-你知道，有趣的是

everybody called us -- -He's driven me crazy!

每個人都叫我們 -- -他讓我瘋狂！

-Not me -- Donald Trump.

-不是我，是唐納德・特朗普

-Do you think that he is going to concede?

-你認為他要讓步嗎？

No, he's not going to concede, right, Mika?

不，他不會讓步的，對吧，米卡？

-Nope. -No.

-沒有 沒有

-We have a bet on this.

-我們打了個賭

That's all I'm going to say, and I'm going to win.

我就說這麼多，我一定會贏。

And it's a lot because I bet --

這是一個很大的，因為我敢打賭 -

when I bet, I bet for a lot of money.

當我下注時，我賭了很多錢。

-Yeah.

-是的

Joe, why do you think that it's taking so long for Republicans

喬，你覺得為什麼共和黨人要花這麼長時間？

to acknowledge Biden's win?

來承認拜登的勝利？

-Yeah, I wish I knew.

-是的，我希望我知道

You know, I was -- These people were my colleagues.

你知道，我是... 這些人是我的同事。

I served with them... -Your friends.

我和他們一起工作...

-...when I was young.

-...當我年輕的時候

When I was 30, I got elected to Congress

我30歲的時候，被選進了國會。

and I served with a lot of these people

我和很多這樣的人一起工作

for eight years in Congress.

在國會工作了8年。

Seven, eight years in Congress.

在國會待了七八年

And I've known them for almost a quarter of a century,

而我認識他們已經有近四分之一世紀了。

and I just don't recognize some of them.

我只是不認識他們中的一些人。

I mean, these are people that we worked together.

我是說，這些都是我們一起工作的人。

We fought the good fight together.

我們一起打了一場好仗。

We were used to -- you know, there were a lot of times

我們習慣了 -- 你知道，有很多時候

when many of us were trying to run Newt Gingrich out of town

當我們很多人都想把紐特-金裡奇趕出城的時候

and sort of leading a coup against his speakership.

和排序的上司政變 對他的演講者職位。

And we were doing it because we didn't feel like

而我們這樣做是因為我們不覺得

he was following his word, that he was keeping his word.

他是言出必行，他是守信的。

And to see a lot of these people just sort of blindly follow

而看到很多這些人只是有點盲目地跟隨

Donald Trump over the past four years and say nothing

唐納德-特朗普在過去的四年裡，什麼都不說。

when President Trump actually was talking the last two weeks

當特朗普總統實際上是在過去的兩個星期說話

of the campaign about throwing Joe Biden in jail,

的競選活動中，關於把喬-拜登扔進監獄。

having his attorney general throw Joe Biden in jail.

讓他的總檢察長把喬-拜登扔進監獄。

That's something that happens in Russia.

這是俄羅斯發生的事情。

It's bizarre, and I just kept waiting for

太奇怪了，我一直在等著

my friends to speak up, and they just didn't do it.

我的朋友說出來， 他們只是沒有做到這一點。

-You never got, like, a little wink,

-你從來沒有得到，像，一個小的眼色。

like a little Jack Nicholson, like "Cuckoo's Nest" like --

像一個小杰克-尼科爾森， 像 "杜鵑窩 "喜歡 -

-Yeah. -Nothing.

-是的 什麼都沒有

-Nothing. -Yeah, they all do.

-沒什麼-是的，他們都是這樣

No, they will all give you the little wink off camera.

不，他們都會在鏡頭外給你使小眼色。

And they go, "Yeah, we know he's crazy. Yeah, yeah.

他們走了，"是啊，我們知道他是瘋了。是啊，是啊。

But that really does none of us any good.

但這對我們來說真的沒有任何好處。

People needed to start saying it on camera,

人們需要開始在鏡頭下說出來。

and for whatever reason,

而且不管出於什麼原因。

they just couldn't bring themselves to do it.

他們只是不能把自己做到這一點。

-There's more I want to talk to you guys about.

-我還有更多的事情想跟你們說。

Can you stick around for a couple more minutes?

你能再堅持幾分鐘嗎？

-Would love to. -Absolutely.

-很樂意-當然