Well, my list.

好吧，我的名單。

Time to blow the whole damn thing up.

是時候把這該死的東西全部炸掉了

Listen, Russell Westbrook has already gone, okay?

聽著，拉塞爾-威斯布魯克已經走了，好嗎？

He's not coming back.

他不會再回來了

He was.

他是。

He requested the trade.

他要求交易。

I know Russell Westbrook.

我認識Russell Westbrook

He's done OK.

他做得很好。

And if you If you're James Harden, you cannot stay there and get and wait to see what you're gonna get back in return.

如果你是詹姆斯-哈登，你就不能呆在那裡，等著看你會得到什麼回報。

Because it's not gonna be someone that's gonna put you in a title contention or someone that's gonna that they're gonna get equal value that bring in back for Russell Westbrook.

因為它不會是一個人，會把你的冠軍競爭或人，他們會得到相等的價值，帶回拉塞爾-維斯特布魯克。

That's gonna help you win the championship.

那會幫助你贏得冠軍。

So it's time to blow the whole thing up.

所以，是時候炸掉這一切了。

Look, both of these guys are at the point of their career where they have accomplished everything individually.

你看，這兩個人都是在他們的職業生涯中，他們已經完成了個人的一切。

For all the accolades they got, the MVPs, the scoring titles.

對於他們獲得的所有榮譽，MVP，得分冠軍。

The only thing left for those guys to do is to win a title.

對於這些人來說，唯一能做的就是奪冠。

And once you trade Russell Westbrook, you're not gonna get back anything.

一旦你把拉塞爾-維斯布魯克交易出去 你就什麼都拿不回來了。

So James Harden is not going to sit around and and and be waiting on the rebuilding stage rebuilding process.

所以，詹姆斯-哈登是不會坐以待斃的，並且在重建階段重建過程中。

So if I'm James Harden once Russell Westbrook is traded, I'm walking in the door and talking to the owner and the G m and the coach and say, Hey, my time is up.

所以，如果我是詹姆斯-哈登，一旦拉塞爾-威斯布魯克被交易，我就會走進門，跟老闆、G m和教練說，嘿，我的時間到了。

It's time for me to go.

我該走了

I need a new destination.

我需要一個新的目的地。

It's time for me to go somewhere where I could compete and when the title.

我是時候去一個可以競爭的地方了，當題目。

So I said they need to trade both of them.

所以我說他們需要把他們兩個都交易出去。

They have to It's time to blow it up.

他們必須這樣做，是時候炸掉它了。

Yeah, I think that's pretty clear, Andi yet I would say if I'm the Rockets, At least I know Hardened may be unhappy.

是啊，我覺得這很清楚，安迪然而我想說，如果我是火箭隊，至少我知道哈登可能會不高興。

Whatever, but if I have him under contract, I'm gonna say what Dr Buss told Kobe Bryant.

不管了，但如果我和他簽了合同，我就會說布斯博士對科比-布萊恩特說的話。

Once upon a time, I got a five carat diamond.

從前，我得到了一顆五克拉的鑽石。

I'm not trading it for 51 carat diamonds.

我不會用它來換51克拉的鑽石。

James, I'm sorry.

詹姆斯，我很抱歉

You're gonna have to bear with me like you're under contract.

你得像簽了合同一樣忍受我。

I'm not just gonna unload you because you wanna be unloaded.

我不會因為你想被卸貨就把你卸下來的

We have to get equal value for you.

我們要為你爭取同等價值。

And that is going to be very difficult because there aren't that many players on your level.

而這將是非常困難的，因為你這個級別的玩家並不多。

So, you know.

所以，你知道。

And once you move Westbrook, by the way, you don't know your right perk.

而一旦動了威斯布魯克，對了，你不知道你的權利福利。

You're not gonna get a Westbrook level player back, but Harden has shown he doesn't necessarily need that to build a team around him.

你不可能找回威斯布魯克級別的球員，但哈登已經表明他不一定需要這樣的球員來圍繞他建隊。

That could be very competitive.

這可能是非常有競爭力的。

Andi.

安迪

And once you clear that salary off your books, you have a lot more flexibility to maneuver.

而一旦你把這筆工資從賬上清掉，你就有了更多的靈活操作空間。

Ah, clever GM might figure out a way to put a team there that Harden likes.

啊，聰明的總經理也許會想辦法把一支哈登喜歡的球隊放在那裡。

Now.

現在就去

I'm not suggesting that that winds up happening.

我並不是建議說那會發生。

I think it's an under 50 50 shot.

我想這是一個低於50的50鏡頭。

But as long as that's the case, I'm moving Westbrook first.

但只要是這樣，我就會先動用威斯布魯克。

I'm not gonna move the thing that makes my team special just for, you know, spare parts.

我不會為了你知道的備件而移動讓我的團隊與眾不同的東西。

If someone blew me away of Golden State, made me an offer for the number two pick in this and that and they could throw ah, player and the whole thing, I would have to consider it.

如果有人把我轟到金州去，給我開出這個那個的二號選秀權，而且他們可以投啊，球員和整個事情，我就不得不考慮了。

And you're going to get a much smaller hall, obviously, for Westbrook right now, given his contract and his perceived value.

而且你會得到一個小得多的大廳，顯然，對於威斯布魯克來說，現在，鑑於他的合同和他的感知價值。

Nevertheless, I would move Westbrook first and hold on to harden until the absolute last minute, when I absolutely had to trade him to try to get the most for him.

儘管如此，我還是會先動威斯布魯克，硬撐到絕對的最後一刻，那時我絕對要把他交易出去，爭取讓他得到最大的回報。

Well, first of all, I don't agree with you But there's no surprise there.

首先，我不同意你的觀點，但這並不奇怪。

Max Kellerman.

Max Kellerman.

Of course, I don't agree with you, but I will tell you this.

當然，我不同意你的觀點，但我要告訴你。

Why the hell wouldn't you get something significant for James Harden?

為什麼不給詹姆斯-哈登換點有意義的東西呢？

I mean, the man.

我是說，這個人。

Listen, he's old.

聽著，他已經老了。

132.9 million over the next three years.

未來3年，1.329億。

Russell Westbrook is old, 132.6.

拉塞爾-維斯特布魯克老了，132.6。

All right.

好吧，我知道了

Both of them have an option of players option after the next two seasons.

他們兩個人在未來兩個賽季後都可以選擇球員選項。

We get all of that, but I think the question that needs to be asking First of all, I completely agree with Kendrick Perkins.

我們得到了這一切，但我認為需要問的問題是 首先，我完全同意肯德里克-帕金斯的觀點。

He's right on the money.

他說的很對

They gotta blow the whole thing up now, because the reality is, is that if you're Houston and you've got a guy in Westbrook that wants out, let me tell you what Houston has been saying for months and stuff and what they, without question saying, are saying now.

他們現在得把整個事情吹起來，因為現實是，如果你是休斯敦，你有一個人在威斯布魯克想離開，讓我告訴你休斯敦已經說了幾個月的東西，以及他們，毫無疑問，現在說。

Kendrick Perkins.

Kendrick Perkins.

Dwight Howard was there hard and wanted them out.

德懷特-霍華德在那裡硬是要他們離開。

They lost in the playoffs a couple of years ago.

幾年前，他們在季後賽中輸了。

Last year, Rather, Harden was at the press conference, he said, We all know what the problem is to the press walked off the walked off the podium went down to the office with Maury and and everybody else.

去年，拉瑟，哈登在新聞發佈會上，他說，我們都知道問題是什麼，向媒體走下了走下了講臺走下了辦公室與毛利和和大家一起。

He said I once Chris Cp three up out of here right now, Westbrook wants out.

他說我一旦克里斯-Cp三起離開這裡，現在，威斯布魯克想離開。

And if you're Harden, you've got a situation where people are looking at you right or wrongly, and they're saying, Okay, are you a problem?

而如果你是哈登，你就會遇到這樣的情況，人們看你的眼神是對是錯，他們會說，好吧，你有問題嗎？

Now we know you average a minimum of 29 over the last four years.

現在我們知道你在過去四年裡的平均成績是29分。

We know that over the last three, you average 32 plus and you're just unstoppable offensively, your magician on the offensive side of the ball.

我們知道，在過去的三場比賽中，你場均32+，你在進攻方面就是不可阻擋的，你的魔術師在進攻方面。

But if you've got teammates, either you don't wanna play with or don't want to play with you and there's no championship to show for all the effort and all the money.

但如果你有隊友，不是不想跟你玩，就是不想跟你玩，付出了那麼多努力，那麼多錢，也沒有冠軍可拿。

Eventually, the organization is gonna look atyou too.

最終，組織也會看你的。

But it doesn't mean they're gonna be stupid and lose him for nothing.

但這並不意味著他們會傻乎乎的白白失去他。

So now here's where it gets tricky when we bring up Brooklyn because KP brought up Brooklyn at the top of the show.

所以現在我們提到布魯克林的時候，就會變得很棘手，因為KP在節目的頂端提到了布魯克林。

Well, you got Spencer Dinwiddie.

好吧，你有斯賓塞-丁威迪。

You got Caris Levert, you've got picks.

你有Caris Levert，你有選擇。

You got all of those things that Brooklyn could offer.

你有布魯克林能提供的所有這些東西。

And Lord knows what else.

天知道還有什麼。

You know what else?

你知道還有什麼嗎？

Houston wouldn't wanna hear this.

休斯敦不會想聽這個的

Ah, lot of people wouldn't want to hear this.

啊，很多人都不想聽這個。

Especially Houston.

尤其是休斯頓。

Because if you're Tilman Fertitta and the Houston Rockets, why would you wanna help Daryl Morey, who just left you?

因為如果你是蒂爾曼-費蒂塔和休斯敦火箭隊，你為什麼要幫助剛剛離開你的達里爾-莫雷？

But he is the president of basketball operations in Philadelphia.

但他是費城的籃球營運總裁。

They do have somebody by the name of Ben Simmons or Joe L and B.

他們確實有一個叫Ben Simmons或者Joe L and B的人。

You're talking about somebody like a Ben Simmons, in my estimation, along with additional players, potentially picks as well toe pair hard and would then be because you stuck with Al Horford, okay, And and basically with Tobias Harris.

你說的是像本-西蒙斯這樣的人，在我的估計中，隨著額外的球員，潛在的選秀權以及腳趾對硬，然後會因為你堅持與艾爾-霍福德，好吧，和基本上與托比亞斯-哈里斯。

I don't think you stuck because I think the bias Harris would do well with the right team mates.

我不認為你卡住了，因為我認為偏科的哈里斯會和合適的隊友一起做得很好。

At the end of the day, those air just to and there's gonna be a slew of other offers.

到了最後，那些空氣剛到，會有一大堆其他的優惠。

But if I'm Houston Max, I know I can get significantly mawr for Harden.

但如果我是休斯敦的麥克斯，我知道我可以為哈登得到顯著的毛利。

I'm not saying that Russell Westbrook is not going.

我不是說拉塞爾-威斯布魯克不會去。

KP is right.

KP是對的。

He's gone.

他走了

Russell Westbrook ain't making that decision and then gonna retract.

Russell Westbrook不會做出這樣的決定然後收回的

That's not how he's built.

他的身材不是這樣的。

If he told him that, he said so to them, and he said it publicly.

如果他告訴他，他就對他們說，而且是公開說。

He wants out.

他想退出。

He out, He's out.

他出來了，他出來了。

So you're gonna move him.

所以，你要移動他。

But the first order of business, in my estimation, if you can get the fall for James Harden, you do it.

但在我看來，第一要務，如果你能讓詹姆斯-哈登上當，你就去做。

You do it because you don't know what additional assets you're going to get.

你這樣做是因為你不知道你會得到什麼額外的資產。

Four Harden That will enable you toe.

四哈登 這將使你的腳趾。

Also unload Russell Westbrook for some additional assets.

同時卸下拉塞爾-威斯布魯克，換取一些額外的資產。

That's how you play that game.

這就是你玩這個遊戲的方式。

In my estimation, I disagree about the order in which you trained them.

據我估計，我不同意你訓練他們的順序。

I think you get rid of Westbrook first and you hold on to harden until you absolutely have to let him go.

我覺得你先把威斯布魯克處理掉，你再堅持到絕對要放他走。

That said, you're right.

也就是說，你是對的。

It's almost impossible to get equal value for Harden.

哈登幾乎不可能獲得同等價值。

Ben Simmons.

本-西蒙斯。

Ben Simmons.

本-西蒙斯。

Now you're talking.

現在你說的是。

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