Of course, of course.

當然，當然。

What are you even talking about?

你到底在說什麼？

We're not talking about well at the time.

我們不是在說當時的好。

I understand their decision, a decision making process.

我理解他們的決定，一個決策的過程。

So you shouldn't have regrets.

所以你不應該有遺憾。

That's not the question.

這不是問題所在。

The question is what we know.

問題是我們知道什麼。

Given what we now know.

鑑於我們現在知道的情況。

If you could do it again, would you do it?

如果可以再來一次，你會這麼做嗎？

Or do you regret doing it?

還是說你後悔這麼做？

How could they not regret doing it?

他們怎麼可能不後悔這麼做呢？

Guys, I'm the one who was, among others who was saying Carson Wentz is the M V P.

夥計們，我是一個誰，在其他人誰是說卡森-溫茨是M V P。

At the time he was, he got hurt.

在他的時候，他受傷了。

Was it three or four years ago?

是三四年前的事嗎？

Now I would say he's the M V P over Brady over everyone.

現在我會說他是M V P，比布雷迪更勝一籌。

I thought he was great.

我覺得他很不錯。

I thought it was absolutely fantastic.

我覺得這絕對是太棒了。

Then he got hurt.

然後他受傷了。

I was like, These dudes are dead in the water.

我當時想，這些花花公子都死在水裡了。

Come on, Nick.

來吧，尼克。

Foles takes over.

福爾斯接手。

They win the Super Bowl.

他們贏得了超級碗。

He leads them through the through the end of the regular season through the playoffs, and they win the Super Bowl.

他帶領他們從常規賽結束到季後賽，他們贏得了超級碗。

He went Super Bowl M V P.

他去了超級碗M V P。

If it was just that, you say he caught lightning in a bottle whence put him in a position to win, you know, home field on all this.

如果只是這樣，你說他在瓶子裡抓到了閃電... ... .......

He had a great team around him.

他身邊有一個很好的團隊。

Okay?

好嗎？

The next year, whence I want to say the Eagles were like five and six when Foles took over the team.

第二年，當我想說老鷹隊在福爾斯接手球隊的時候，就像五六。

They were either 500 or a game under 500 dead in the water.

他們要麼是500人，要麼是500人以下的遊戲死在水裡。

The team wasn't going anywhere.

球隊哪裡也不去。

They were dead in the water.

他們都死在了水裡。

Falls, takes over, goes four and one, beats Chicago at Soldier Field, where Chicago was a lot of people Sleeper pick.

瀑布，接管，走四和一，在阿兵哥場擊敗芝加哥，芝加哥是很多人臥鋪的選擇。

They might come out of the NFC.

他們可能會從NFC出來。

Look at this.

看看這個

Historically great talent on defense.

歷史上偉大的防守人才。

Almost beat the Saints in New Orleans to follow up, beating the Bears at Soldier Field.

差點在新奧爾良擊敗聖徒隊，跟進，在阿兵哥球場擊敗熊隊。

Receiver turns around.

接收者轉身。

He hit the receiver they might beat.

他打了他們可能會打的接盤俠。

The Saints in New Orleans came that close.

新奧爾良的聖徒隊就差那麼一點。

That's a title defense and unsuccessful eventually, but that's a title defense Now.

那是一個冠軍衛冕，最終沒有成功，但那是一個冠軍衛冕現在。

The Eagles had a choice to make.

老鷹隊必須做出選擇。

What did they dio They choose, whence falls goes to Jacksonville.

他們選擇了什麼？ 他們選擇了傑克遜維爾。

It's a bad situation.

這是一個糟糕的情況。

I get it, but eso So what could folds do with this team there, too?

我明白了，但是... ...那麼，Folds在那裡也能用這支隊伍做什麼呢？

Banged up?

傷痕累累？

They don't have enough.

他們沒有足夠的錢。

You might as well have went.

你還不如去。

No.

不知道

Given what we know now, whence is not enough to cover up for your mistakes.

以我們現在所知道的情況來看，什麼時候都不足以掩蓋你的錯誤。

Well, they made the playoffs last year.

嗯，他們去年打進了季後賽。

You're saying Folds couldn't have in Activision last year, once did not play well down the stretch.

你說的是去年福茲在動視不能有，一旦在後期沒有打好。

They want.

他們想。

Oftentimes, in spite of whence who played poorly, especially in the second half of games down the stretch against bad teams, Falls could have done that or he might have.

很多時候，儘管什麼時候誰打得不好，特別是在下半場對陣不好的球隊的比賽中，福爾斯可以做到這一點，或者他可能做到這一點。

But even if he didn't, what was the point of last year?

但即使他不這樣做，去年又有什麼意義呢？

Or this year?

還是今年？

You think you're really going anywhere, even if you happen to make the playoffs.

你以為你真的哪裡都能去，即使你碰巧進了季後賽。

Knowing what we know now, even if Falls couldn't have put you over where once put you, it's a much smaller deal.

根據我們現在的瞭解，即使福爾斯不能把你放在曾經放你的地方，也是小事一樁。

The Eagles have their hands tied right now because they've given over 100 million guaranteed to a guy who has regressed as a quarterback and is a kind of middle of the pack guy for that give less money to fold.

老鷹隊現在手忙腳亂，因為他們給一個四分衛退步的傢伙提供了超過一億的保障，而且是那種給錢少折騰的中間人。

He ain't gonna do any worse, and if he does do a little worse, ain't gonna make a difference.

他不會做得更壞，即使他做得更壞一點，也不會有什麼不同。

Meantime, if you put a team around folds, which arm or able to do because he gets paid so much less he can win you a Super Bowl.

意思是說，如果你把一支球隊放在褶皺的周圍，哪隻手臂或能夠做到，因為他的工資少得多，他可以給你贏得超級碗。

We're gonna look out Doug Peterson because one of the reasons why people speculated that Nick Foles was successful with Doug Peterson is because Doug Peterson was very comfortable coaching him.

我們要留意道格-彼得森，因為人們猜測尼克-福爾斯在道格-彼得森那裡獲得成功的原因之一就是道格-彼得森對他的指導非常舒服。

If you want to make that argument and I say yeah, because you're believing in the coach more than you believing in the quarterback and you're saying this is what the hell we're going to dio.

如果你想提出這樣的觀點，我說是的，因為你相信教練比相信四分衛更多，你說這就是我們要dio的地獄。

But the flip side to it is that if you're Doug Peterson, when are you going to acclimate yourself to Coach and Carson Wentz?

但反過來說，如果你是道格-彼得森，你什麼時候才能適應教練和卡森-溫茨？

So Carson Wentz is not regressing under your watch.

所以卡森-溫茨並沒有在你的眼皮底下退步。

Doug Peterson is a former quarterback.

道格-彼得森是前四分衛。

Doug Peterson.

道格-彼得森

This guy that came from the offensive side of the ball.

這個從進攻方來的傢伙。

Doug Peterson.

道格-彼得森

This coached quarterbacks before.

此前執教四分衛。

Why is it that this guy is regressing on your watch?

為什麼這傢伙在你的眼皮底下退步了？

But we're sitting here talking about Carson Wentz and not Doug Peterson.

但我們坐在這裡談論的是卡森-溫茨，而不是道格-彼得森。

That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me, so I'm just looking at it.

這在我看來並沒有什麼意義，所以我只是看看。

If Nick Foles was wreaking havoc and tearing it up and doing his thing, that would be an entirely different situation altogether.

如果尼克-福爾斯大肆破壞，撕破臉皮，做自己的事情，那就完全是另外一種情況了。

That's not what I'm seeing when I've watched Nick Foles.

我看尼克-福爾斯的時候，看到的可不是這樣。

That hasn't been what I've been seeing when I've watched Nick Foles since last year.

從去年開始，我看尼克-福爾斯的時候，就沒有看到過這種情況。

So as a result of that reality, along with his own durability issues, My mentality is is that the younger guy with a greater upside and a lot of people's mind was the right direction for the Philadelphia Eagles to go.

所以，由於這個現實，加上他自身的耐久性問題，我的心態是，年輕的他有更大的上升空間，很多人心目中的費城老鷹隊的方向是正確的。

And I know Carson Wentz has been awful.

我知道卡森-溫茨一直很糟糕。

I'm not defending that.

我不是在為這個辯護。

What I'm saying is I'm looking ahead.

我想說的是，我在展望未來。

I'm looking at the future, and I find it very, very difficult to believe that this is going to continue.

我看著未來，我覺得非常非常難以相信這種情況會繼續下去。

And that's why I would go with the younger guy who is considered more talented, with a greater upside.

而這也是為什麼我會選擇被認為更有天賦，上升空間更大的年輕人。

Who's just having a very bad year.

誰只是有一個非常糟糕的一年。

Listen, I have to agree with Stephen, and I think this whole conversation is really absurd.

聽著，我不得不同意斯蒂芬的觀點，我認為這整個對話非常荒謬。

I mean, let's let's really look at this whole thing.

我的意思是，讓我們來看看這整個事情。

And Stephen, They brought up some some points about Nick folding Carson Wentz number one.

斯蒂芬，他們提出了一些關於尼克摺疊卡森-溫茨一號的觀點。

When we look at what Carson Wentz back in 2017, Max, you would even admit that Carson once was the M V P candidate he was having that type of season.

當我們看看卡森-溫茨在2017年的情況，馬克斯，你甚至會承認卡森曾經是M V P的候選人，他有那種類型的賽季。

The personnel around the Philadelphia Eagles was much better than what we're seeing with the Philadelphia Eagles right now.

費城老鷹隊身邊的人員比我們現在看到的費城老鷹隊要好很多。

Hell, the Philadelphia Eagles are shallow themselves as far as their roster and coaching situation is concerned.

該死的，就費城老鷹隊的陣容和教練情況而言，他們自己都很淺薄。

Okay, And then to follow up on 2000 and two the following season, 2018 I mean, listen.

好吧，然後跟進2000年和接下來的兩個賽季，2018年我是說，聽。

Carson Wentz held with 3 3000 yards and only seven.

卡森-溫茨以3個3000碼的成績保持著，只有7個。

He had 21 touchdowns and only seven interceptions in UH, in a year that he found himself injured, injured as well.

他在UH有21次達陣，只有7次攔截，在這一年，他發現自己也受傷了，受傷了。

So it wasn't like he was just playing bad football in 2017.

所以，他在2017年並不是只打不好球。

0, 2018.

0, 2018.

It was a situation where Nick Foles again called Lightning involved and was able to make things happen with the coaching staff that he was familiar with.

這種情況下，尼克-福爾斯再次叫閃電參與進來，並且能夠和他熟悉的教練組一起完成任務。

Now we fast forward, all right?

現在我們快進，好嗎？

You got Frank Wright, who was also part of that staff who's now the head coach of the end of albums coach who was a big part of that, that quarterback room with the Philadelphia Eagles.

你得到了弗蘭克-賴特，他也是該工作人員的一部分，他現在是專輯末尾教練的主教練，他是其中的重要組成部分，費城老鷹隊的四分衛室。

So now you now, not only do you have a drained as Faras talent is concerned, personnel But as far as the coaching staff, that is all played.

所以現在的你，不僅有一個枯竭的作為法拉斯的人才，人員但至於教練組，那都是玩的。

Why are we seeing Carson Wentz playing that?

為什麼我們看到卡森-溫茨這麼玩？

The playing the way that he's playing now?

他現在的打法？

I'm not absolving Carson Wentz in this particular situation because he has been stinking up the joint.

在這種特殊情況下，我並不是為卡森-溫茨開脫，因為他一直在臭味相投。

He has been living up to his contract.

他一直在履行他的合同。

But to say that Nick Foles should have been the guy instead of Carson Wentz.

但要說尼克-福爾斯應該是那個人，而不是卡森-溫茨。

What?

什麼？

It what in their history?

它什麼在他們的歷史？

What did Nick Foles history has shown you that he should been the guy that that she'd been The guy in Philadelphia was the fact that he went to Jacksonville, signed a huge contract, and then he got replaced by Gardner Minshew.

尼克-福爾斯的歷史讓你看到了什麼，他應該是那個她一直在費城的傢伙是事實，他去了傑克遜維爾，簽署了一份巨大的合同，然後他被加德納-明修取代。

The fact he got way.

事實上，他得到的方式。

What?

什麼？

Listen, the fact that he went to Philip went down the Jacksonville and he actually got replaced by Gardner Minshew.

聽著，事實上，他去菲利普... ...去了傑克遜維爾... ...他實際上被加德納-明修取代了。

Okay, Then he gets traded to the Chicago Bears, and we look at the Chicago Bears right now.

好吧，然後他被交易到芝加哥熊隊，我們看看芝加哥熊隊現在的情況。

You could make an argument that mentioned your biscuits might be replaced Nick Foles in this situation.

你可以提出一個論點，提到你的餅乾可能會在這種情況下取代尼克-福爾斯。

So where has Nick Foles showing you right now?

那麼，尼克-福爾斯現在給你看了哪裡？

Right?

對吧？

Where has Nick Foles showing you right now that he should that he would have been the better pick over Carson Wentz, because I just I don't see anything that tells me that at all.

尼克-福爾斯現在在哪裡向你展示了他應該，他將是比卡森-溫茨更好的選擇，因為我只是我沒有看到任何東西告訴我，在所有。

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