Name: 納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫。伊爾哈姆-阿利耶夫總統對英國廣播公司的講話 - 英國廣播公司新聞 (Nagorno-Karabakh: President Ilham Aliyev speaks to the BBC - BBC News)
Uploaded: 2020-11-09T18:55:25.000Z
Duration: 6 min 21 s

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By the way, today, the opportunities to compromise is shrinking because we're getting those territories back by force.

順便說一句，今天，妥協的機會越來越少，因為我們要用武力奪回那些領土。

And if they behave reasonably, we can work on some forms off self governance.

如果他們的行為合理，我們可以在一些形式上進行自我管理。

But frankly, speaking with this prime minister of Armenia, I don't think that any possibility for peace do you intend to fight for every square inch off Nagorno Karabakh on the surrounding seven territories.

但坦率地說，與亞美尼亞總理交談時，我不認為有任何和平的可能性，你打算為周圍七塊領土上的納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫的每一寸土地而戰。

I said from the very beginning that if passion in he personally not his foreign minister, he personally says Armenia, withdraw the troops from the three remaining regions which they have toe liberate on.

我從一開始就說，如果激情在他個人不是他的外交部長，他個人說亞美尼亞，從剩下的三個地區撤軍，他們必須要解放上。

Are you saying that if the Armenian leadership agrees to vacate the territories outside of Nagorno Karabakh, you will stop?

你是說，如果亞美尼亞領導人同意撤出納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫以外的領土，你就會停止？

You will not fight on exactly at the same time, this is not the whole, you know, issues on the negotiation table.

你不會完全在同一時間打上，這不是整個，你知道，談判桌上的問題。

Of course, after that we will work on the return off Azerbaijani refugees to Nagorno Karabakh because before the war, the nineties.

當然，在那之後，我們將努力使阿塞拜疆難民返回納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫，因為在戰爭之前，90年代。

They've been 40,000 Azerbaijani living in Nagorno Karabakh on the percentage of Azerbaijani population was 25%.

他們有40 000名阿塞拜疆人居住在納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫，阿塞拜疆人口的比例為25%。

So they expelled them all on after that, committed ethnic cleansing on, then announced independence.

所以他們在那之後就把他們全部驅逐了，進行種族清洗，然後宣佈獨立。

But the fear is that if you take control of Nagorno Karabakh by force, that you may do exactly the same.

但令人擔心的是，如果你以武力控制納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫，你可能會做同樣的事情。

There are very strong fear is being expressed by Armenia that there will be ethnic cleansing of their people.

亞美尼亞人非常擔心他們的人民會遭到種族清洗。

With respect of the Armenian population of Nagorno Karabakh, they will continue to live there.

關於納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫的亞美尼亞人，他們將繼續生活在那裡。

Our citizens on I on many occasions expressed this position.

我國公民在I上多次表達了這一立場。

You have very recently said, and I'm quoting you here.

你最近說過，我在這裡引用你的話。

If they do not leave, we will chase them like dogs.

如果他們不走，我們就像狗一樣追趕他們。

That's hardly the kind of statement that would make people feel safe.

What I said I meant those who continue to occupy our territories.

我說的是指那些繼續佔領我們領土的人。

I meant Armenian military political leadership.

我指的是亞美尼亞軍事政治領導人。

I meant so called authorities off Nagorno Karabakh.

我指的是納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫以外的所謂當局。

這個犯罪元老，所以我指的是他們。

So are you saying that you will give an absolute guarantee that there will be no ethnic cleansing off Armenian citizens.

所以你的意思是說，你會給一個絕對的保證，不會對亞美尼亞公民進行種族清洗。

Do you accept that there is a danger now off a humanitarian catastrophe this winter in Nagorno Karabakh, you are closing in.

你是否同意，納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫今年冬天有可能發生人道主義災難，你正在接近。

You could be in a position soon to besiege the area.

你可能很快就會陷入包圍圈的境地。

What is going to be the fate of the civilians inside?

If they're cut off by your forces, how can they survive?

如果他們被你的勢力切斷，他們怎麼能活下來？

We will provide them with everything with food, with water, with everything but 90,000 of them approximately have already fled.

我們將為他們提供食物、水和一切，但其中約有9萬人已經逃亡。

They don't seem to be comforted by these assurances.

他們似乎並沒有得到這些保證的安慰。

According to our information, the rial population off those who lived in Nagorno Karabakh was from 60 to 70,000 people.

根據我們的資料，居住在納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫的民眾有6至7萬人。

All those figures are highly exaggerated.

Therefore, I doubt that 90,000 could could flee because the maximum maximum 70.

是以，我懷疑9萬能能逃，因為最大最大70。

We have had an attack in Nagorno Karabakh, a church which was shelled twice on the same day.

我們在納戈爾諾-卡拉巴赫遭到襲擊，一座教堂在同一天遭到兩次炮擊。

Now you have said that possibly it was a mistake.

You have said you will carry out an investigation.

In order to investigate it, we have to be there to investigate.

為了調查它，我們必須到場調查。

I said many times either it was a mistake off our artillery or it was a deliberate provocation by Armenians themselves.

我說過很多次，要麼是我們的大炮打錯了，要麼是亞美尼亞人自己故意挑釁。

It could have been by mistake on Lee because there was no military target.

因為沒有軍事目標，所以可能會誤傷李。

Church was not among military targets, but could you have made a mistake twice in the same day?

教會不在軍事目標之列，但你能在同一天內犯兩次錯誤嗎？

Have you seen the images off other by Johnny Mosques on the occupied territories?

你見過約翰尼清真寺在被佔領土上的其他影像嗎？

他們把鎬頭放在我們的清真寺裡。

They attacked ganja with ballistic missiles, deliberately destroying the civilian compound.

他們用彈道導彈攻擊ganja，故意摧毀平民院落。

Well, let me tell you, Mr President, I live for our own.

好吧，讓我告訴你，總統先生，我為我們自己而活。

BBC colleagues have seen they were in Stepanakert in Nagorny Karabakh.

英國廣播公司的同事看到他們在納戈爾內卡拉巴赫的斯捷潘納克特。

On the 1st, 2nd and 3rd of October, they witnessed random shelling of the town, including at an emergency services center on apartment block, destroyed as people tried to flee.

10月1日、2日和3日，他們目睹了對該鎮的任意炮擊，包括一個公寓樓上的緊急服務中心，在人們試圖逃離時被摧毀。

Shortly afterwards, more shelling nearby.

They characterized it as indiscriminate shelling off a town without clear military targets.

他們將其描述為對沒有明確軍事目標的城鎮進行狂轟濫炸。

Say this was witnessed and filmed by the BBC.

When they were, they were their president to live.

It doesn't mean anything that can we fake news?

這並不意味著什麼，我們可以假新聞？

Why would any journalist going there design Because of the biased approach to the conflict?

為什麼會有記者去那裡設計，因為對沖突的偏見？

Because off this black propaganda against Azerbaijan in international media.

因為國際媒體對阿塞拜疆的這種黑色宣傳。

There is evidence that you have used cluster munitions in civilian areas in the streets off Stepanakert, documented extensively by Human Rights Watch, photographs, videos, testimony from witnesses on.

有證據表明，你在斯捷潘納克特附近的街道上的平民區使用了集束彈藥，人權觀察、照片、視頻、證人的證詞等都有廣泛的記錄。

They actually had the opportunity to go to the scene.

Now, why are you using cluster munitions which can be so imprecise in a civilian area?

現在，你為什麼要在平民區使用集束彈藥，而集束彈藥又是如此的不精確？

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