S presidential election, Donald Trump has again claimed without evidence that he won and that Democrats are trying to steal the election from him.

S總統選舉，唐納德-特朗普再次聲稱沒有證據，他贏得了，民主黨人正試圖從他那裡竊取選舉。

In fact, Trump is losing ground as counting continues in four swing states that remain on decided.

事實上，特朗普正在失去陣地，因為在四個仍在決定的搖擺州的計數繼續。

Let's take a closer look at those.

我們來仔細看看這些。

The latest figures show Biden with 264 Electoral College votes overall, and President Trump with 214.

最新數據顯示，拜登的選舉人團總票數為264張，特朗普總統為214張。

Uh, let's get down to the states the Georgia, where 16 electoral votes are up for grabs there.

呃，讓我們到喬治亞州去吧，那裡有16張選舉人票要爭奪。

It's an extremely tight race.

這是一場極其激烈的比賽。

Biden and Trump still neck and neck with 99% of votes counted, the latest count has shown the former vice president less than 2000 votes behind the president and catching up in Pennsylvania.

拜登和特朗普仍以99%的計票率並駕齊驅，最新計票結果顯示，前副總統落後總統不到2000票，在賓夕法尼亞州迎頭趕上。

That's the biggest yet to be decided, with 20 electoral votes Donald Trump currently holding a narrow lead.

這是最大的還沒有決定，20張選舉人票唐納德-特朗普目前保持著微弱的領先優勢。

But that gap is constantly narrowing, and the remaining mail in ballots are expected to favor Joe Biden Well in Arizona, votes are still being counted to the AP news Agency, which is our main source of election data.

但這一差距正在不斷縮小，預計剩餘的郵寄選票將有利於喬拜登好在亞利桑那州，選票仍在統計美聯社，這是我們選舉數據的主要來源。

Those are the numbers you're seeing from them.

這些都是你從他們身上看到的數字。

Uh, AP has called, uh, that state for Biden, but most other media outlets have not called it yet.

美聯社已經給拜登打了那個州的電話，但其他大部分媒體還沒有打過來。

11 college votes at stake there, which were including in Biden's count.

那裡關係到11張學院票，包括在拜登的統計中。

But again that could change.

但這又可能會改變。

And finally, Nevada Nevada Joe Joe Biden there, currently with a slim lead in Nevada, the state carries the six votes he needs to win.

最後，內華達州喬-拜登那裡，目前在內華達州以微弱的領先優勢，該州攜帶著他獲勝所需的6張選票。

There's still around 190,000 votes left count there with most in Democratic favored areas.

那裡還有大約19萬張選票，大部分在民主黨青睞的地區。

So with voting still being tallied, Donald Trump's path to victory is looking increasingly difficult.

所以在投票還在統計的情況下，唐納德-特朗普的勝利之路看起來越來越難。

States in red or blue on the map you're seeing have been called by AP for Trump or Biden.

你看到的地圖上紅色或藍色的州已經被美聯社稱為特朗普或拜登。

States in lighter blue or pink car leaning toward Biden or Trump, respectively, in any one state will give Biden the win.

淡藍色或粉色車的州分別傾向於拜登或特朗普，在任何一個州，都會讓拜登獲勝。

Trump, however, needs a combination of states to hang on.

不過，特朗普需要結合州來堅持。

So, facing tough odds, Trump has once again addressed the nation stating multiple falsehoods and saying he's being robbed of the second term.

所以，面對艱難的局面，特朗普再次向全國發表講話，陳述了多條假話，並稱自己被搶走了第二個任期。

The Trump campaign has launched legal action, claiming fraud, trying to stop the count In some states, State election officials say there is zero evidence of wrongdoing.

特朗普競選活動已經發起法律行動，聲稱欺詐，試圖阻止計數在一些州，州選舉官員說，有零證據表明存在錯誤行為。

To the contrary, they say counting is proceeding smoothly across the country.

相反，他們說全國各地的計數工作都在順利進行。

Well, here's some of what the president had to say Challenge Joe and every Democrat to clarify that they only want legal votes because they talk about votes.

好吧，這裡有一些總統要說的話 挑戰喬和每一個民主黨人，澄清他們只想要合法的選票，因為他們在談論選票。

And I think they should use the word legal legal votes.

而且我覺得他們應該用合法合法票這個詞。

We want every legal vote counted, and I want every legal vote counted.

我們希望每一張合法的票都被計算在內，我也希望每一張合法的票都被計算在內。

We want openness and transparency.

我們希望公開和透明。

No secret count rooms, no mystery ballots, no illegal votes being cast after Election Day.

沒有祕密計票室，沒有神祕選票，沒有選舉日之後的非法投票。

You have election Day and the laws were very strong in that you have on Election Day and they don't want votes cast after Election Day, and they want the process to be an honest one.

你有選舉日，法律是非常強大的，你有在選舉日，他們不希望在選舉日之後投票，他們希望這個過程是一個誠實的過程。

It's so important.

這是非常重要的。

We want an honest election.

我們想要一個誠實的選舉。

We want an honest count and we want honest people working back there because it's a very important job.

我們希望有一個誠實的計數，我們希望誠實的人在後面工作，因為這是一個非常重要的工作。

So that's the way this country is going to win.

所以這個國家就是要用這樣的方式來取勝。

That's the way the United States will win, and we think we will win the election very easily.

這就是美國獲勝的方式，我們認為我們將非常容易地贏得選舉。

We think there's going to be ah, lot of litigation because we have so much evidence, so much proof, and it's going to end up perhaps at the highest court in the land.

我們認為會有啊，很多的訴訟，因為我們有這麼多的證據，這麼多的證據，它將最終也許在土地的最高法庭。

We'll see a reporter.

我們會看到一個記者。

I mean, SF is in Washington and following all of this, he joins us now.

我的意思是，SF是在華盛頓 和以下所有的這一切，他加入我們現在。

I mean, we just heard President Trump.

我的意思是，我們剛剛聽到特朗普總統。

They're talking about illegal votes and claiming that the election has been stolen from him.

他們說的是非法選票，並聲稱選舉已經被他偷走了。

How are those comments going down in America?

這些評論在美國是如何進行的？

Well, of course, Trump's supporters, those who voted for him are looking at his chances of a second term, slipping away in front of their eyes and their reinvigorated by his claims that he is going to be able to challenge theologian results that there's a reason for him.

當然，特朗普的支持者，那些投票給他的人，眼看著他連任的機會，在他們眼前溜走了，他們的重新振作起來，他說他要能挑戰神學家的結果，是有原因的。

Thio fight this in court, but it's interesting to see the reaction from the rest of the country from the majority who voted against Donald Trump but also from the media.

Thio在法庭上打這個，但很有趣的是，看到大多數投票反對唐納德特朗普的國家其他地區的反應，但也有媒體。

Three major networks cut away from some of those comments he was making, reminding their audience that these were baseless claims that jeopardized the electoral process.

三大網絡切斷了他的一些評論，提醒他們的觀眾，這些都是毫無根據的主張，危害了選舉進程。

So even Fox News, which is a major media network that is very favorable to Donald Trump, very often has repeated that there are no there's no basis for these claims that the election is being stolen from here.

是以，即使是對唐納德-特朗普非常有利的主要媒體網絡福克斯新聞，也非常經常地重複說，沒有沒有這些說法的基礎，選舉是從這裡被偷走的。

So a very divided reaction to these claims that he's making.

所以對他的這些說法，反應很不一致。

I understand that election protests are being reported in a number of places in the U.

據我所知，美國多個地方都有選舉抗議的報道。

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Can you tell us more about what those demonstrations are about?

你能告訴我們更多關於這些示威的內容嗎？

It's exactly right there about these comments that Trump has made.

關於特朗普的這些言論，正是如此。

So a lot of his supporters have gone to places like in Arizona, where they're counting ballots to protest that they need to count, continue to count the ballots because they're in Arizona.

所以他的很多支持者都去了亞利桑那州等地，他們在那裡數票，抗議他們需要數票，繼續數票，因為他們在亞利桑那州。

Trump is gaining an advantage from these votes, that air just being counted now.

特朗普正在從這些選票中獲得優勢，現在空氣剛剛被計算出來。

So absentee ballots, Andi, things like that.

所以缺席選票，安迪，類似的事情。

Whereas in Michigan, where Biden was declared the winner, they're going, they have gone to polling places and demand that the count be called off.

而在密歇根州，拜登被宣佈為贏家，他們去了投票站，要求取消計票。

But on the other side, Biden supporters or just people who are worried about Trump's comments about not accepting the results are taking to the streets and demanding that every vote should be counted that we do this election like we've done it every year, that we count all the ballots absentee mail in everything like that, until we have a final result and then determine a winner of the presidency.

但在另一邊，拜登的支持者或者只是擔心特朗普不接受結果的人走上街頭，要求每張選票都應該被計算，我們像每年一樣進行這次選舉，我們計算所有的選票缺席郵寄之類的一切，直到我們有一個最終的結果，然後確定一個總統的贏家。

Okay, so we've heard from President Trump.

好了，我們已經聽到了特朗普總統的消息。

One thing he did say that is definitely true is that the office of president is very important.

他確實說過一件事，絕對是真的，那就是總統這個職位非常重要。

Uh, another man wanting to become president course.

呃，又有一個人想當總統，當然。

Joe Biden.

喬-拜登

He's been speaking.

他一直在說話。

Let's listen to what he had said.

讓我們聽聽他說了些什麼。

Democracy, sometimes missing.

民主，有時會缺失。

It's sometimes requires a little patience is well, but that patience has been rewarded now for more than 240 years with the system of governance, governance and that's been the envy of the world.

它的有時候需要一點耐心是好的，但這種耐心現在已經得到了回報，240多年來的治理體系、治理方式，讓世界羨慕不已。

We continue to feel center, and I we continue to feel very good about where things stand.

我們繼續感到中心，我我們繼續感到非常好的事情的立場。

We have no doubt that when the Countess finished, Senator Harris and I will be declared the winners.

我們毫不懷疑，當伯爵夫人完成後，哈里斯參議員和我將被宣佈為獲勝者。

So I ask everyone to stay calm, all the people to stay calm.

所以我請大家保持冷靜，所有的人都保持冷靜。

The process is working, the count is being completed and we'll know very soon.

這個過程正在進行，統計工作正在完成，我們很快就會知道。

So Joe Biden, they're saying he's on track to win, sounding optimistic.

所以喬・拜登 他們說他有望獲勝 聽起來很樂觀的樣子

I mean, when will we know who's actually won?

我是說，我們什麼時候才能知道誰是真正的贏家？

What state should we be watching out for over the next few hours?

未來幾個小時，我們應該注意什麼狀態？

Well, Georgia is one that is promising toe have its votes done very soon over nine, about 99% of the votes have been counted there, and it's down to a margin of under 2000 votes at this point, so very close.

佐治亞州是一個承諾很快就能完成投票的州 超過9個，大約99%的選票已經被計算出來了，在這一點上，它的差額不到2000票，所以非常接近。

And that would would be a state that either Biden could flip for the Democrats or Trump could secure for himself.

而這將是拜登可以為民主黨翻盤，或者特朗普可以為自己爭取的一個州。

Eso We're watching Georgia right now, and that's gonna be coming in next.

我們正在看佐治亞州的比賽，下一場就會來了。

Pennsylvania has most of its ballots counted, but in the other states Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, the electoral officials are saying everybody has to be patient, that they're not going to announce any results until all the votes have been counted because the margins are so close.

賓夕法尼亞州的大部分選票已經統計完畢，但在其他州賓夕法尼亞州、內華達州、亞利桑那州，選舉官員說，大家要有耐心，在所有選票統計完畢之前，他們不會公佈任何結果，因為差額太接近了。

So those are the states that are going to be We're gonna watch right now.

所以這些州將是我們現在要看的。

Pennsylvania, of course, in Trump's favor.

當然，賓夕法尼亞州，對特朗普有利。

But as more votes are being counted, that could flip toward Biden.

但隨著更多選票的統計，這可能會向拜登傾斜。

And that's one of the main reasons why Biden is optimistic.

而這也是拜登樂觀的主要原因之一。

Because if he wins Pennsylvania, he wins the presidency.

因為如果他贏得賓夕法尼亞州，他就贏得了總統職位。

Very exciting indeed.

確實非常刺激。

D w I mean s if they're in Washington.

我是說，如果他們在華盛頓的話。

Thank you very much.

非常感謝你。

Well, our Peter ledeall is also following this, Of course, very closely.

我們的Peter ledeall也在關注此事，當然，非常密切。

He's with me in the studio to take a closer look at some of those claims that President Trump has been making what's first listening to more of what the president had to say.

他和我一起在演播室裡仔細看看特朗普總統的一些說法，先聽聽總統說了什麼。

I've been talking about mail in voting for a long time.

郵寄投票的事情我已經說了很久了。

It's it's really destroyed our system.

它... ...它真的毀了我們的系統。

It's a corrupt system and it makes people corrupt, even if they aren't by nature.

這是一個腐敗的制度，它使人腐敗，即使他們的本質不是。

But they become corrupt.

但他們變得腐敗了。

It's too easy.

太簡單了

They want to find out how many votes they need, and then they seem to be able to find them.

他們想知道他們需要多少票，然後他們似乎能夠找到他們。

They wait and wait, and then they find them.

他們等啊等，然後就找到了他們。

Donald Trump.

唐納德-特朗普

They're casting doubt on the legitimacy of mail in ballots, calling into corrupt system, talking about secret count rooms, extraordinary from a U.

他們對郵寄選票的合法性表示懷疑 對腐敗的制度提出質疑 談論祕密計票室，這對一個美國人來說是不尋常的

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主席：

What are we to make of these claims?

我們該如何看待這些說法？

You know, if I could be honest with you, Terry, I kind of wish I knew where a lot of this was coming from me.

你知道，如果我可以跟你說實話，泰瑞，我有點希望我知道很多事情是來自我的。

I think there are no secret count grooms.

我想，沒有祕密數新郎。

Both parties have observers during the elections.

在選舉期間，雙方都有觀察員。

The Trump campaign has said also in Pennsylvania, for instance, that they would like observers during the tabulation process.

例如，特朗普競選團隊在賓夕法尼亞州也曾表示，他們希望在製表過程中能有觀察員。

The state has agreed to that in theory, but warned that it might slow down the process.

國家已經在理論上同意了這一點，但警告說，這可能會減緩進程。

You know, we're thes claims of mystery ballots of illegal boats.

你知道，我們的說法是非法船隻的神祕投票。

Officials and observers have both said that this election has been remarkably smooth, despite taking place in the middle of endemic reports of irregularities have been absolutely minimal in the mistakes that have come up have largely been corrected quite swiftly.

官員和觀察家都說，儘管這次選舉是在地方性選舉中進行的，但選舉過程非常順利，關於違規行為的報告絕對是最少的，出現的錯誤也基本上迅速得到糾正。

Um, you know, we're looking at an election that seeing the highest turnout in over century, Asai said.

嗯，你知道，我們正在尋找一個選舉 看到最高的投票率 在超過一個世紀，淺井說。

It's taking place in middle of epidemic, which has forced a lot of states to, uh, you know, come up with different ways to try to make this process a bit more smoother.

這是發生在中間的疫情， 這已經迫使很多州， 呃，你知道，想出不同的方法 試圖使這個過程更順利一點。

For instance, relying Mawr on and also first of all, obviously, to have people stay safe during this pandemic.

比如說，依靠莫爾，也首先，很明顯，要讓人們在這場大流行中保持安全。

So it is taking longer because we are looking at immense backlog of mail in votes.

所以耗時較長是因為我們要面對大量積壓的郵件投票。

Um, so there's nothing unusual about any of the things that we've been seeing these past days.

嗯，所以沒有什麼不尋常的事情，我們已經看到這些天的任何事情。

I think what's probably true is that we're looking at a at an incumbent president who currently has a very narrow path to victory, much more narrow than Joe Biden.

我想可能是真的，我們現在看到的是一位現任總統，他目前的勝利之路很窄，比喬-拜登窄多了。

At this stage, it looks like and who's essentially making up trumped up allegations to maybe say faced and to cast doubt on the integrity of a perfectly fair democratic process.

在這個階段，它看起來像和誰的本質上編造了胡亂的指控，也許說面對和懷疑一個完全公平的民主進程的完整性。

Well, this is what I like to talk about the process.

嗯，這就是我喜歡說的過程。

The because President Trump, you can understand if he's afraid he's going to lose.

因為特朗普總統，如果他害怕自己會輸，你可以理解。

He's getting a bit desperate, but the things he's saying cast out on the entire American electoral system, he's saying it's corrupt.

他有點絕望了，但他說的東西投向了整個美國的選舉制度，他說這是腐敗的。

He's essentially accusing the American electoral process of being unfair and corrupt.

他本質上是在指責美國的選舉過程不公平和腐敗。

What does that?

那是什麼？

What sort of message is that?

這是什麼樣的資訊？

Give to the American people and to the other people in the Republican Party?

給美國人民和共和黨的其他人？

Can they sign off on that?

他們能簽字嗎？

What?

什麼？

We've seen some Republicans starting to distance themselves.

我們已經看到一些共和黨人開始保持距離。

Thief, the governor of Maryland, for instance.

比如說，小偷，馬里蘭州的州長。

Later Hogan, Um, coming out yesterday saying that Trump needs to stop casting doubt on this.

後來霍根，嗯，昨天出來說，特朗普需要停止對此事的懷疑。

I mean, keep in mind, this is not just about Trump.

我的意思是，請記住，這不僅僅是關於特朗普。

We're looking at a lot of Republican states right now.

我們現在看到的是很多共和黨的州。

We're looking at Senate races were looking at local races.

我們在看參議院的比賽，我們在看地方的比賽。

Um, does that mean that all those election results are illegitimate as well?

嗯，這是否意味著這些選舉結果也都是不合法的？

Um, the Republicans have over performed in Congress.

嗯，共和黨人在國會的表現過剩。

Does that mean that we need recounts there as well?

這是否意味著我們在那裡也需要重新計算？

That dope those votes no longer matter.

那個笨蛋那些選票已經不重要了。

I don't think Trump would agree to that.

我想特朗普不會同意的。

So I mean, where does this leave us?

所以我的意思是，這讓我們怎麼辦？

It leaves us in a process where and immensely chaotic process.

它讓我們處在一個和無比混亂的過程中。

We're looking at absolutely essential that whoever comes out victorious of this process is considered a legitimate presidency.

我們正在研究絕對必要的是，無論誰在這個過程中取得勝利，都被認為是一個合法的總統職位。

Trump is currently doing everything in his power to undermine lap the legitimacy and keep in mind, he could still win.

特朗普目前正在竭盡所能地破壞大腿的合法性，請記住，他仍然可以獲勝。

Does that make him an illegitimate president?

這是否讓他成為一個非法的總統？

Um, remarkable questions.

嗯，了不起的問題。

Absolutely.

絕對的

DW Peter Lorre Ledeall.

DW Peter Lorre Ledeall.

Thank you very much for you.

非常感謝你。

Analysis Peter.

分析彼得。