Zach Lowe has a great piece on ESPN dot com and the ESPN app right now on why the goat debate between LeBron and Jordan is different.

扎克-洛威現在在ESPN點com和ESPN應用上有一篇很棒的文章，講述了為什麼勒布朗和喬丹之間的山羊辯論是不同的。

And hey, look at this.

嘿，看看這個。

We're welcoming in ESPN senior writer Zach Lowe, who has been with us all year round to cover this extremely long season.

我們迎來了ESPN資深作家扎克-洛威，他常年和我們一起報道這個極其漫長的賽季。

Zach, when I say year round, I really mean year round, LeBron said.

扎克，當我說全年，我真的是指全年，勒布朗說。

He wants his damn respect.

他想要他那該死的尊重。

So how does last night change the debate that has been had over and over and over and over again between him and Michael Jordan?

那麼，昨晚如何改變他和邁克爾-喬丹之間反反覆覆的辯論？

Uh, I think the terms are different.

呃，我認為術語是不同的。

Look, I mean, LeBron is still going.

你看，我的意思是，勒布朗還在繼續。

That's the crazy thing.

這才是最瘋狂的事情。

He's almost 36 years old.

他已經快36歲了。

When the chips are down, he's still the best player in the N B A.

當籌碼減少的時候，他仍然是N B A中最好的球員。

That's incredible in itself.

這本身就很不可思議。

He's probably gonna be the all time leading scorer in NBA history is already number two.

他可能會成為NBA歷史上所有的主要得分手已經是第二名了。

If you combine regular season and playoff points.

如果把常規賽和季後賽積分結合起來。

He just passed Karl Malone and you know, this season he did it with defense to he bought in from Day one on defense, which is something we haven't seen from him since Miami, probably and grinding the entire year.

他剛過了卡爾-馬龍，你知道，這個賽季他做到了防守到他從第一天開始就買進了防守，這是我們從邁阿密開始就沒有看到他的東西，可能和磨練了整整一年。

And, yeah, I think you know he'll never be six, you know, like Michael Jordan in the Finals.

而且，是的，我想你知道他永遠不會是六，你知道，像邁克爾-喬丹在總決賽。

He's four and six.

他是四歲和六歲。

He had he had a very human moment in 2011 against the Dallas Mavericks when he melted down.

在2011年對陣達拉斯小牛隊的比賽中，他曾有過一個非常人性化的時刻，當時他融化了。

But the cumulative longevity, the endless peak, the peak is still going on.

但累積的壽命，無盡的高峰，高峰還在繼續。

It's really incredible.

真的是不可思議。

Has the debate changed for you, Richard?

辯論對你來說有變化嗎，理查德？

Well, I I think it's always hard to do this debate before an individual's career is over until, unless the individual has, like, surpassed, uh, that person, right?

好吧，我覺得在一個人的職業生涯結束之前，總是很難進行這種辯論，除非這個人已經，比如，超越了，呃，那個人，對吧？

And so I think it is.

所以我認為是這樣的。

I think it is difficult because we see LeBron every single year.

我認為這很難，因為我們每年都能看到勒布朗。

He adds something else, whether it's an assist title, Um, you know, being the best player on the best team in the Western Conference, something that he had never done before.

他還增加了一些其他的東西，無論是助攻頭銜，嗯，你知道的，是西部聯盟最好的球隊裡最好的球員，這是他以前從來沒有做過的事情。

So it's like, you know, Teoh.

所以這就像，你知道的，泰奧。

Is he gaining ground?

他的地位提高了嗎？

Yes, like that.

是的，像這樣。

That's obviously if there is a Michael Jordan is at the mountaintop, every accomplishment, and it doesn't have to be scoring titles.

這顯然如果有一個邁克爾-喬丹是在山頂，每一個成就，也不一定是得分冠軍。

It could be assist titles.

它可以是協助標題。

It could be, you know, little bitty things that closes that gap between him and MJ, but it is very, very close.

這可能是，你知道的，一點點的事情， 縮小他和MJ之間的差距， 但它是非常，非常接近。

I like the random goat that was just thrown into that montage spectacular producing there.

我喜歡隨機的山羊，只是被扔進那蒙太奇壯觀的生產有。

I look.

我看。

We talked about this a little bit the other day that that there's a Mount Rushmore right of the greatest players in NBA history.

前幾天我們談到了這個問題，那就是NBA歷史上最偉大的球員有一座拉什莫爾山的權利。

And that one, too, are comparing players between eras where there are, frankly, such different rules and such different.

而那個，也是在比較不同時代的球員，老實說，有這樣不同的規則和這樣不同的。

You know, when we go back to Bill Russell or Kareem, different levels of competition with how many teams there were in the MBA who got to be on them either globally or just coming from an American talent pool, that sort of thing.

你知道，當我們回到比爾-拉塞爾或卡里姆，不同層次的競爭與MBA有多少球隊誰能在他們身上，無論是全球或只是來自美國的人才庫，諸如此類的事情。

It's almost like you're comparing players playing not completely different games, but somewhat different games, which makes that harder as well.

這幾乎就像你在比較的玩家玩的不是完全不同的遊戲，而是有些不同的遊戲，這也增加了難度。

But it's interesting and it's getting more interesting.

但它很有趣，而且越來越有趣。