So you've gone the other way.

所以你走了另一條路。

I think right away, as a comedian, you went even I was a little reluctant to do online and zoom shows just like this is so depressing.

我覺得馬上，作為一個相聲演員，你去連我都有點不願意做網絡和放大節目，就這樣太鬱悶了。

But you went right in right away.

但你馬上就進去了

Thio, Zoom shows Jack, I don't know where it's posted, but I have not seen you do any online shows outside of this one.

Thio，Zoom節目Jack，我不知道貼在哪裡，但除了這個節目之外，我沒有看到你做任何在線節目。

Yeah, I mean, no, I I only came here because I love everybody on this That's here.

是的，我的意思是，不，我... ...我只是來這裡，因為我愛大家 在這裡。

Outside that.

在這之外。

I just didn't see a point.

我只是覺得沒有什麼意義。

I'm sorry.

我很抱歉

I just didn't see a point to doing it.

我只是覺得這樣做沒有意義。

And I felt that this was the time Thio learn some new and and build other parts of what you do as a comedian.

而且我覺得這是Thio學習一些新的和和建立你作為一個喜劇演員的其他部分的時間。

And so I've been doing mostly that during this period.

所以這段時間我主要做的就是這個。

Like I missed stand up with, like, I genuinely go through phases from, like, all of this is not worth it without standing up.

就像我錯過了站起來與，一樣，我真心經歷了從，一樣的階段，不站起來這一切都不值得。

And I like, sad about it.

而我喜歡，悲傷的事情。

I genuinely, like have those little breakdowns.

我真的，喜歡有這些小故障。

But I unfortunately found 2 to 3 other things I could do and and and have ready for when Cove, it is never done.

但不幸的是，我發現還有2到3件事情我可以做，並且和和準備好了，當灣，它永遠不會完成。

What are those things for someone?

那些東西是什麼人的？

That is because I've talked to two friends that are comedians that are really having a hard time with this E For me, it's like I, I like, live performing.

那是因為我和兩個喜劇演員朋友聊過，他們真的很難接受這個E對我來說，就像我，我喜歡，現場表演。

I hate this.

我討厭這樣

I like talking to people.

我喜歡與人交談。

But I hate, you know, just performing like this.

但我討厭，你知道，只是這樣的表演。

What One of the things that you found that are fulfilling enough to keep you motivated, doing that thing, even though there's no end in sight, there's no promise that, like whatever you're writing is going to be made.

你發現有一件事，足以讓你有動力，做那件事，即使沒有終點，也不能保證，比如你寫的東西都會被做成。

Or I just got fortunate that before everything kind of went down, I got lucky with some with Network, and so we're making a thing.

或者說我只是很幸運，在一切都有點不順之前，我和Network一起幸運地得到了一些，所以我們在做一件事。

But it was It was just like diving into animation as much as I possibly can.

但這就是我儘可能多地涉足動畫的原因。

And even being a big fan of seeing what Maria has done on Big Mouth was like inspiration when itself and like, understand, like when you're such a stand up for the being part of your career, you kind of you know, other shit, but you don't know it.

甚至是一個大風扇 看到什麼瑪麗亞已經做了大嘴 就像靈感，當本身和喜歡，理解，喜歡當你這樣的站起來的 被你的職業生涯的一部分，你種你知道，其他狗屎， 但你不知道它。

And so I've just been going back and like doing my research and like so if I'm gonna have these conversations with these people.

所以我只是一直在回去 並喜歡做我的研究和喜歡 所以，如果我要去有 這些對話與這些人，

I need to not just know Gindi Tartakovsky.

我不僅要認識金迪-塔塔科夫斯基。

I need to know everybody that led to a guinea Tartakovsky I need to know everybody that led to a Ralph basket.

我需要認識每一個導致豚鼠塔塔科夫斯基我需要認識每一個導致拉爾夫籃子的人。

I need to know everybody that led to a Aaron McGruder on Boondocks.

我需要知道每個人都導致了Aaron McGruder在Boondocks上。

Like I gotta understand these animation studios, these people is like the same way that us for can sit around and talk shit.

我得理解這些動畫工作室，這些人就像我們一樣，可以坐在這裡說廢話。

And we could name comedians from the 19 twenties till now.

我們可以說出從1920年代到現在的喜劇演員。

I wanna have that same level of knowledge when it comes Thio.

我想有同樣的知識水準，當它來Thio。

And that's just how I feel.

這就是我的感覺。

That's why I've been on Well, you tell you lean heavily into enemy because of the sword behind you eyes that katana.

這就是為什麼我一直在 嗯，你告訴你重重地靠向敵人，因為你的眼睛背後的劍，武士刀。

It is my girlfriend's birthday.

今天是我女朋友的生日。

What's it from?

什麼來的？

There must be more to that katana and just katanas air guns in Japan.

在日本，那把武士刀和單純的武士刀氣槍一定有更多的關係。

See?

看到了嗎？

They don't even make them there.

他們甚至不在那裡做。

She had to order this from China.

她不得不從中國訂購這個。

Oh, my God.

哦，我的上帝。

It's fully functional.

它的功能齊全。

This is a is a covert purchase.

這是一個是一個祕密的購買。

Is there any plan of, like, pure Kobe purchase?

有沒有什麼計劃，比如說，純粹的科比收購？

What?

什麼？

What happened?

怎麼了？

You pull it out when you're like making a salad, Do you just like, take a katana to the cucumber.

你把它拉出來的時候，你喜歡做沙拉， 你只是喜歡，採取卡塔納到黃瓜。

You have it in there.

你有它在那裡。

I used to be on a daily tip where I would just like play Joe D.

我以前每天都在提示，我只想玩喬D。

C and play with the sore.

C、玩的痛快。

But now it's like I, like, hurt myself and didn't tell Nobody's so like I was just like, I'm not gonna play with hold up for E.

但現在就像我一樣，傷害了自己，沒有告訴Nobody's，所以就像我只是想，我不會玩與保持了E。

I cut the back of my cab and then, like everybody, you're gonna end up cutting yourself.

我把我的駕駛室後面切開了，然後，像所有人一樣，你最終會把自己切開。

You're gonna cutting yourself.

你會割傷自己的。

I cut the back of my cab, didn't tell nobody and was just like, No, I just you know, it's it's more decoration.

我把我的駕駛室後面切開，沒有告訴任何人，就像，不，我只是... ...你知道，這是它更多的裝飾。

I don't really think I should be like, you know, if Moses comes back with a weapon of some kind of gonna freak out Beautiful.

我真的不認為我應該像， 你知道，如果摩西回來 與某種武器 會嚇壞了美麗。

I kept this because I'm so embarrassed of this purchase.

我之所以留著這個，是因為這次買的東西很不好意思。

You carry a sword with you on the road.

你帶著一把劍上路。

You're me, not on the road.

你是我，不是在路上。

I bought this at 14 because I was very into Lord of the Rings and had hit no puberty.

我14歲的時候買了這個，因為我很喜歡《指環王》，而且還沒到青春期。

So I looked maybe 10 and I would act out scenes in the backyard with this exact sort, not let go.

所以我看大概10歲的時候，我會在後院演一些場景，完全是這種，不放。

Let it go, because it's such an embarrassing purchase.

讓它去吧，因為這是一個尷尬的購買。

A lot of money for 14 I bought off eBay had had Thio intercept the package before.

很多錢的14我從eBay上買的之前有Thio攔截包裹。

My mom found it because we were not allowed to buy anything at all.

我媽媽發現，因為我們根本不允許買任何東西。

And I had was out around Moses.

而我是在摩西的周圍。

I've got the same.

我也有一樣的。

I've got the same thing these I had.

我有同樣的東西，這些我有。

I also think it was this was made in Taiwan, not China.

我也認為是這個是臺灣製造的，不是中國製造的。

Japan.

日本：

But it does.

但確實如此。

Yeah, Probably longer than you've gotten into contracting, gotten scamming rich people out of construction projects and saying is to take way longer than it and it helps.

是啊，可能比你搞承包的時間還長，被騙了有錢人的建築工程，說是要比它時間長，有用。

Maria, What was was there any apprehension or you just leaned right away into the zoom shows when Jack was like, Okay, let's do something else.

瑪麗亞，有什麼是有任何的憂慮，或者你只是靠在馬上進入變焦顯示時，傑克說，好吧，讓我們做一些別的事情。

You're like, I need to perform again.

你就像，我需要再次表演。

Can I mention again that I'm old and I've tried different things?

我可以再提一下，我已經老了，我已經嘗試過不同的東西了嗎？

E tried script writing and stuff like that and he said, Oh, I just I'm not good at it.

E試著寫劇本之類的東西，他說，哦，我只是我不擅長。

And so I just I'm just doing the things that I'm good at.

所以我只是... ...我只是在做我擅長的事情。

So now I have Ah, I have some Internet, you know?

所以現在我有啊，我有一些互聯網，你知道嗎？

Oh, I give people stickers.

哦，我給人們貼紙。

Um, let Za sticker during the show.

嗯，讓小紮在節目中貼。

Kamala Harris, who is that?

卡馬拉-哈里斯，那是誰？

No.

不知道

Guess what?

你猜怎麼著？

They have multicultural.

他們有多元文化。

Also empowering female stickers at your local Michael's, Our craft store.

還可以在你當地的Michael's，我們的工藝品商店裡買到賦予女性權力的貼紙。

Also, you could just uh Oh.

此外，你可以只是呃哦。

What if I put out a mustache halfway through the show?

如果我中途放出鬍子怎麼辦？

Michaels is for white people that have a lot of time on their hands.

Michaels是為那些有很多時間的白人準備的。

Uh, you know, we're actually support you.

呃，你知道，我們其實是支持你的。

Here's what I made a side or you have a mustache.

這是我做的一個側面，或者你有鬍子。

Look at this.

看看這個

This is what happened here.

這就是這裡發生的事情。

Comedians don't have Stand up.

喜劇演員沒有Stand up。

Some of us have stickers, and mustache is Stashes of us.

我們有些人有貼紙，鬍子是我們的藏品。

Have sore.

有姐姐。

I am insanely into my air.

我瘋狂地投入我的空氣。

Prior e have a J air fryer.

之前e有一個J空氣炸鍋。

And I talk about that every day.

而我每天都在談論這個問題。

That's how nothing e have nothing.

這就是無為e有無為的原因。

So all I do like, yo, I bet I could burn your sandwich.

所以，我喜歡，喲，我打賭我可以燒你的三明治。

Can you put Orioles in there?

你能把金鶯隊放在那裡嗎？

Yeah, I put some flour batter on that motherfucker.

是啊，我把一些麵粉麵糊 在那個混蛋。

We could frost Orioles.

我們可以把金鶯隊凍死。

Come on over.

過來吧

That's so fucking cool.

太他媽酷了

Coolest diabetic of all time.

史上最酷的糖尿病患者。

Yes.

是的，我知道

Fried that motherfucker.

炒那個混蛋。

I've made 22 batches of fried chicken since co vid, and, uh, it is very hard to make.

我做了22個批次的炸雞，因為co vid，而且，它是很難做。

Uh, it is so good and then very difficult to make.

呃，它是如此的好，然後非常難做。

So, uh, we FC has a log that you can burn that smells like fried chicken they put out.

所以，呃，我們FC有一個木頭，你可以燒，聞起來像炸雞，他們把出來。

And so they sell it at Walmart.

所以他們在沃爾瑪賣。

And I don't know who would do that to the family.

我也不知道誰會這樣對家人。

Look at this air fryer Way to pull up with my air fryer.

你看這個空氣炸藥機的方式來拉昇我的空氣炸藥機。

We could get the chicken Really going with you, Moses, That seems so, so cruel along.

我們可以和你一起去吃雞肉，摩西，這似乎太殘忍了。

So you can you imagine if that started a forest fire?

所以你能想象如果這引發了森林大火嗎？

And so, for, like, 90,000 acres of Southern California E hope is that smell burned in your memory?

所以，對於南加州9萬英畝的土地來說，希望這種味道能烙在你的記憶裡？

Because, uh, Alex used to work at a KFC in, of all places, Penn Station.

因為，呃，亞歷克斯曾經在肯德基工作 在所有的地方，賓州車站。

I, um here's the thing people are like, Do you hate fried chicken?

我，嗯，這裡的東西人們都喜歡，你討厭炸雞嗎？

I'm like, No, I just hate fried chicken that comes out of a bag frozen.

我想，不，我只是討厭從冷凍袋裡拿出來的炸雞。

So every other kind of fried chicken, if I see it made and it's not coming directly out of a bag frozen.

所以每一種其他的炸雞，如果我看到它的製作，它不是直接從袋子裡冷凍出來的。

I love that.

我喜歡這樣

But I haven't been Teoh.

但我沒有去過泰奧。

You know, I didn't go to KFC for years after I started working, um, in the fine dining game, because, you know, you don't return to Vietnam, but it was you could go back on vacation.

你知道，我沒有去肯德基多年後，我開始工作，嗯，在美食遊戲，因為，你知道，你不回越南，但它是你可以回去度假。

But it was It was really You start to smell like those places, too.

但這是真的，你也開始聞到了那些地方的味道。

It's a really I have a great, like, sense memory.

這是一個真正的我有一個偉大的，喜歡的感覺記憶。

And I dated someone in high school.

而我在高中的時候就和別人約會過。

She worked at KFC, and it was just It was a constant shower.

她曾在肯德基工作過，那是一個持續的淋浴。

It was just always in her pores.

只是一直在她的毛孔裡。

And also you smell not just like you don't smell like fried chicken.

而且你的味道也不只是像你沒有炸雞的味道。

You smell like a combination of all the ingredients.

你的味道就像所有成分的組合。

And I was a kosher Jew, so I couldn't eat bacon.

而我是猶太教猶太人，所以我不能吃培根。

And my friends were like, I'm sorry, but you smell like a little bit like bacon and a bunch of other stuff.

我的朋友們都說，對不起，但你聞起來有點像培根和其他一堆東西。

So, like, why do you, like, smell forbidden?

那麼，你，為什麼會聞到禁忌的味道？

What is going on here?

這到底是怎麼回事？

Did you ever as a zey Orthodox, you have to assemble a bacon ater e.

你有沒有作為一個東正教徒， 你必須組裝一個培根後，e。

It was one of those hazmat suits.

是那種危險品防護服的一種。

I had to put it on.

我不得不穿上它。

Yeah, s so I actually had bacon once on accident.

是啊，所以我真的有 培根一次意外。

My my roommate in college had some macaroni and cheese in the fridge and I asked if I could have some.

我大學時的室友在冰箱裡放了一些通心粉和奶酪，我問我能不能吃一些。

And as I was eating it, I was like the sun dried tomatoes are incredible.

而當我吃的時候，我就覺得晒乾的西紅柿真是不可思議。

And he's like what?

他說什麼？

Son dropped.

兒子掉。

Oh, no.

哦，不

Like I was really theatrical about it.

就像我真的很戲劇化一樣。

I really milked it.

我真的把它擠奶了。

I went to the the garbage like, spat it out and everyone was like, You're still going, You know, it's not.

我去了垃圾桶一樣， 吐出來，每個人都喜歡， 你還是要去，你知道，這不是。

Do you feel guilty about it, or do you just feel like your best thing that's ever happened to me?

你是覺得內疚呢，還是覺得這是我遇到的最好的事情？

But he's eating backing all the time he has.

但他有的時候都在吃後盾。

Do you have Thio?

你有Thio嗎？

You have to go talk to somebody after you do that.

做完這些你得去找人談談。

Like, how do you renew your license after you plunder?

比如說，你掠奪後怎麼續證？

So in Catholicism's you have a priest.

所以在天主教中，你有一個牧師。

But in Judaism you have to write a letter to Mel Brooks and No, no, you're fine.

但在猶太教中，你必須給梅爾-布魯克斯寫一封信，然後不，不，你很好。

You're fine.

你很好。

You just you just keep you just keep going to do whatever.

你只是... ...你只是保持... ...你只是保持去做任何事情。

Alex, Did you ever have the pay us knowing?

亞歷克斯，你有沒有付我們知道嗎？

Yes, because So the reason The pace of those curly ear locks there's a biblical commandment that you have to keep some some of this around here.

是的，因為這些卷耳的原因是 聖經上有一條誡命，你必須在這裡保留一些這個。

So this is why I do that.

所以這就是我為什麼這麼做的原因。

Like I have these because the idea to keep you celibate.

就像我有這些，因為讓你獨身的想法。

What worse haircut to keep you celebrate?

還有什麼更糟糕的髮型讓你慶祝？

Yeah.

是啊。

Yes.

是的，我知道

They give you plenty of protection when you're young.

當你年輕的時候，它們會給你足夠的保護。

When you're a young man, but I put on to fill in every day those those leather things that you put on your on your arm.

當你還是個年輕人的時候，但我每天都會把那些你戴在胳膊上的皮製的東西戴在身上，來填補你的空缺。

And when I mean that there are these, they do a prayer over you.

當我的意思是，有這些，他們為你祈禱。

I did this on birthright.

我是靠生來的權利做的。

I think if your name is Moses, you can lie and say you're Jewish.

我想如果你叫摩西，你就可以撒謊說自己是猶太人。

And now you went on birth, right?

現在你去生了，對嗎？

Well, my dad is technically Jewish, and but you're only Jewish if your mom is Jewish.

好吧，我爸爸是技術上的猶太人， 但你只有當你的媽媽是猶太人，你才是猶太人。

But it was enough.

但這已經足夠了。

And they saw Moses and the whole idea behind Birthright.

他們看到了摩西和 "生而為人 "背後的整個理念。

Your half Jewish Moses?

你的半個猶太人摩西？

Yeah.

是啊。

Are you kidding me?

你在開玩笑嗎？

All of us are.

我們所有人都是。

Everyone is.

每個人都是。

You're such a perfect like you look like someone who would have been chasing me 70 years ago.

你真是個完美的人，就像70年前追我的人一樣。

I You're Jewish.

你是猶太人

I call Moses Moshe as, like a joke.

我稱摩西摩西為，像個笑話。

And the joke is because too May.

而這個笑話是因為太梅。

But that's that makes I mean, not culturally, but like free trip.

但這是，這使得我的意思是，不是文化，但像免費旅行。

Absolutely.

絕對的

Where a program is trying to get just the whole idea behind Birthright is that you will hook up with someone on your trip, move there and there'll be more of you than there is Palestinians.

在那裡，一個項目正試圖讓只是整個出生權利背後的想法是，你會在你的旅行中與某人掛鉤，移動到那裡，那裡會有更多的你比巴勒斯坦人。

It's like Rachel Dolezal.

就像Rachel Dolezal一樣。

I want you to be de awards.

我想讓你成為德獎。

Did she really e words?

她真的e字嗎？

But that would be amazing.

但這將是驚人的。

Eyes hosting the mass singer, which is not It's Rachel dollars.

眼看著主持民眾歌手，這不就是瑞秋美元。

Oh, it's so funny.

哦，這太有趣了。

Because when you're in your early twenties, you wanna win every award you want to do everything.

因為當你二十出頭的時候，你想贏得每一個獎項，你想做的一切。

I remember watching like the image Awards.

我記得看像形象獎。

And I was like, How do I win one of those?

我當時想，我怎麼才能贏得其中的一個？

Like, how is that gonna home?

就像，這怎麼能回家？

I going to get something some reward from, um, I gonna soul train award or something like that amount of outrage that you would get Alex settle men, my dad and on Chris's.

我要得到的東西 一些獎勵，嗯，我要去靈魂訓練獎 或類似的東西，你會得到的憤怒量 亞歷克斯解決男人，我的爸爸和克里斯的。

Yes, I would be.

是的，我會的。

This is true.

這是事實。

I would be the first white person to ever appropriate black music for their own benefit.

我將是第一個為了自己的利益而挪用黑人音樂的白人。

Will be I'd be the first one.

將是我第一個。

Absolutely.

絕對的

First crazy.

第一次瘋狂。

I just love the idea of d c.

我只是喜歡D C的想法。

Young flat being like Alex boy.

年輕的平正在像亞歷克斯男孩。

Just come on.

快來吧