Thes eh, NBA players beyond what any other sports league has right now, in addition to just being in a bubble in Disney World.

Thes eh，NBA球員超越任何其他體育聯盟的權利，除了只是在迪士尼世界的保麗龍。

And I give you my answer to that.

我給你我的答案。

Yeah.

是啊。

So what?

那又怎樣？

So what?

那又怎樣？

Let me put the camera on me, take away, though.

讓我把相機放在我身上，帶走，雖然。

Damn highlights.

該死的亮點。

I'm gonna say it again.

我再說一遍

So what?

那又怎樣？

You can walk and chew gum at the same time Just because you're gonna play basketball games Just because you've got to travel to do your job in which you get paid for does not strip you off the ability to have a conscious be socially conscientious and to engage in whatever active activities.

你可以一邊走路一邊嚼口香糖，只是因為你要去打籃球比賽，只是因為你要出差去做你的工作，而你的工作是有報酬的，這並不能剝奪你有意識地成為社會良知的能力，並從事任何積極的活動。

20.

20.

0, there's another level.

0，還有一個層次。

Let me address that First.

讓我先談談這個問題。

I know this level.

我知道這個水準。

There's a lot on MBA players, plates?

MBA球員身上有很多，盤子？

No, a lot.

不，很多。

And I can understand if they're emotionally and mentally exhausted when I say that's the cost of doing business, they are in leadership positions.

而且我說這是做生意的成本，他們身處領導崗位，如果他們情緒和精神疲憊我也能理解。

They took those positions actively.

他們積極採取了這些立場。

They get credit for that from many, including we here on this show.

他們的功勞來自於很多人，包括我們在這個節目中。

They you know, a lot of working.

他們... ...你知道，很多工作。

Ah, lot of working people have to do all kinds of uncomfortable things.

啊，很多上班族都要做各種不舒服的事情。

Forget about just people on the front lines during the pandemic and while they are athletes and we think of them differently and they don't have Thio work with a jackhammer or whatever, things are sometimes tougher than other times.

忘了只是在大流行期間在前線的人，雖然他們是運動員，我們對他們的看法也不一樣，他們也沒有Thio用千斤頂或其他東西工作，但事情有時比其他時候更艱難。

And this is one of those times, including for MBA players.

而這是一個時代，包括對MBA學員來說。

I think I think the other piece that is just going to say to is, if potentially, we're gonna have the second wave of coronavirus and where they would potentially play this game, This would allow them more time to kind of figure things out and see what's gonna happen if we are gonna have a spike and protect the players.

我想我認為另一塊，只是要說到的是，如果有可能，我們會有冠狀病毒的第二波，他們會有可能玩這個遊戲，這將使他們有更多的時間來種弄清楚的事情，看看會發生什麼，如果我們要有一個峰值和保護玩家。

And I think there's more of an appetite after the New Year because we're gonna be in the thick of it.

而且我覺得過完年之後，大家的胃口會更大，因為我們會在濃濃的年味中。

With NFL heating towards the playoffs, here's my response.

隨著NFL對季後賽的升溫，以下是我的迴應。

No one should be telling them to shut up and dribble or shut up and play.

沒有人應該告訴他們閉嘴運球或者閉嘴打球。

I'm not doing that.

我不會這樣做。

I'm saying do it all These are tough times and you have to doom or than you are accustomed to do it.

我說做這一切 這些都是艱難的時刻，你必須做的厄運或比你習慣做它。

You have to do more.

你必須做得更多。

The more the challenges that you're going to face are not going to be ordinary.

你要面對的挑戰就越是不會普通。

A matter of fact, they're going to be extraordinary.

事實上，他們將是非凡的。

One of the things we talked about when LeBron James and the Lakers won the championship, we talked about whether we actually have a discussion, Max as to whether or not this might be his greatest title ever, because the obstacles in which he had to overcome in route to that championship may have been some of the greatest ever.

當勒布朗-詹姆斯和湖人隊奪得總冠軍時，我們談論的其中一件事是，我們是否真的有一個討論，馬克斯對於這是否可能是他有史以來最偉大的冠軍，因為他在奪得總冠軍的過程中必須克服的障礙可能是有史以來最偉大的一些。

We understand so many of us millions upon millions of people have toe face challenges now that they never had to face before.

我們明白，我們這麼多的人，千千萬萬的人，現在都要面對他們以前從來沒有面對過的挑戰。

All I'm saying is, except that, well, it's not one thing about that.

我想說的是，除了，嗯，這不是一件事。

I'll say one thing about that.

我要說的是一件事。

You and I are discussing what we think they should do right.

你和我在討論我們認為他們應該怎麼做才對。

But I would say to Molly's point about the MBA players and what they and how they were able to pull this off, the level of cooperation and sacrifice, all those things, including leading on social justice, just because I think they should do it.

但我想說的是，對於莫莉的觀點，關於MBA球員和他們以及他們如何能夠完成這個任務，合作和犧牲的程度，所有這些事情，包括在社會正義上的上司，只是因為我認為他們應該這樣做。

I do think that they have.

我確實認為他們有。

I mean, of course it's up to them what they do, but from just kind of a moral position they have earned the right to say, You know what?

我的意思是，當然這是由他們自己決定的，但從道德立場來看，他們有權利說，你知道嗎？

No, we're not gonna get even if we're leaving, but we're not.

不，我們走了也不會得到平，但我們不。

We're way.

我們的方式。

That's fine.

那就好

No disagreement.

沒有異議。

But then you have to acknowledge as a grown up that a business has a right to say we totally respected.

但你又不得不承認作為一個成年人，一個企業有權利說我們完全尊重。

But we're not paying you.

但我們不給你錢。

You got E paying you to say we have a right to do.

你讓E給你錢，說我們有權利做。

Is this December deadline?

這是12月的最後期限嗎？

Is this really gonna happen?

這真的會發生嗎？

E think it is, I think, is very, very real that it's going to happen because you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars being lost.

我認為這是，我認為，是非常，非常真實的，它會發生，因為你說的是數以億計的美元損失。

If it doesn't players did this already.

如果不這樣做玩家已經做到了。

They wanted 82 games.

他們想要82場比賽。

They couldn't figure out a compromise bubble, whatever.

他們想不出一個妥協的泡影，管他呢。

Eventually the lead just said no.

最後，上司只是說了句不。

We're going to unilaterally say 60 games and pro rate salaries and the players lost the money.

我們要單方面說60場比賽和職業球員的工資，球員就虧了。

But that was their choice.

但這是他們的選擇。

And the MBA players, if anyone has a has a right to have the fans with them if they make a choice to postpone.

而MBA的球員，如果有誰有一個有權利讓球迷與他們一起，如果他們做出選擇延後。

But the problem is the players, and I'm not saying most of the players, all of them you do have a few that talk as if we shouldn't have toe work, but we should still get paid.

但問題是球員，我不是說大部分球員，所有的球員你確實有幾個，說得好像我們不該有趾夠的工作，但我們還是應該得到報酬。

That's not practical in any business.

這在任何企業都不實用。

We have to understand.

我們必須明白。

I understand.

我明白了。

Molly.

Molly.

I'm sitting here doing first take with you and Max.

我坐在這裡和你還有麥克斯一起做第一次拍攝。

We number one in the morning.

我們是早上的第一名。

Well, guess what if I don't show up?

好吧，你猜如果我不出現呢？

I don't expect to get paid.

我不期望得到報酬。

I don't expect to see that.

我不希望看到這一點。

Oh, I'm not gonna show up because you know what?

哦，我不會出現，因為你知道嗎？

Not just the coronavirus, but I got these social justice issues that are on my mind.

不僅僅是冠狀病毒的問題，我還想到了這些社會正義的問題。

And to me, that's where my focus lies over.

而對我來說，這才是我的重點所在過。

By the way, can I still get my check?

對了，我還能拿到支票嗎？

It don't work that way.

它不工作的方式。

And all I'm saying is everybody has to understand that that is reality.

我想說的是，每個人都要明白，這就是現實。

Who are these players who want to get paid the same and talkto?

這些想拿一樣的工資和談託的球員是誰？

Well, you know, if you don't talkto what was the matter?

好吧，你知道，如果你不說，那是怎麼回事？

They make enough money.

他們賺的錢夠多了。

Let me look at all the money we generated for the fucking We can still get their millionaire.

讓我看看我們為他媽的創造的錢，我們還能得到他們的百萬富翁。

It's just so much on their shoulders.

他們肩上的擔子實在是太重了。

Is there such strange times in the middle of a pandemic and everything with the election?

難道在流行病和一切的選舉中，還有這樣奇怪的時代嗎？

It's a lot, but I hear you think business At the end of the day, I say this, you can I ask a question?

這是一個很大的，但我聽到你認為業務 在一天結束時，我說，你可以我問一個問題？

Yeah.

是啊。

You actually think it's more on their shoulders than it is on the common Joe out here that if they don't goto work, they can pay their e a lot.

其實你覺得他們的責任比外面的普通人更大，如果他們不工作，他們可以給他們的e很多。

Everybody.

各位

I know that that's not what everybody.

我知道這不是每個人都有的。

That's not what I asked.

我問的不是這個

I know that's a lot on everybody.

我知道這對每個人來說都是很大的負擔。

Nobody's absolved.

沒有人被赦免。

I'm asking you, Do you think it's more on their shoulders?

我問你，你覺得這更多是他們的責任嗎？

Of course not where people don't know how they're gonna but food food in their mouth.

當然不是哪裡的人不知道他們會如何，但食物食物在他們的嘴。

Yes, of course, people.

是的，當然，人。

But I think millionaires also have problems as well.

但我覺得百萬富翁也有問題。

People experience their lives relative to their surroundings.

人們的生活體驗是相對於周圍環境而言的。

So to Danny Green or an MBA player, of course, they would not trade places with most people who are actually working harder and for much less reward.

所以對於丹尼-格林或者MBA球員來說，他們當然不會和大多數人交換位置，因為他們其實更努力，回報更少。

But it's still like, Wait a minute, this is what we're used to.

但它仍然像，等一下，這是我們習慣的。

And now we're asked to do all this extra stuff and then go back right back at it again, and they have a point, but so does everybody else.

而現在我們被要求做這些額外的事情，然後再回到正確的位置上，他們有一個點，但其他人也是如此。

Everybody is being asked to do extra everybody into your point.

每個人都被要求做額外的大家進你的點。

As far as the average Joe.

至於普通的喬。

Yeah.

是啊。

They also have a lot of average Joes pulling on them as well.

他們也有很多普通的喬幫主拉著他們。

Yes, yes, a lot of people to support beyond other millionaires who came from wealth.

是的，是的，除了其他的百萬富翁出身的人之外，還有很多人需要支持。

A lot of us would know about that.

我們很多人都會知道的。

And guess what?

你猜怎麼著？

We still got to deal with it.

我們還是要面對它。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

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訂閱ESPN，加。