HE IS SO NICE TO SEE YOU, AARON.

他很高興見到你，AARON。

>> GREAT TO SEE YOU.

>> 很高興見到你。

>> James: HOW ARE YOU HOLDING UP?

>> 詹姆斯。你是如何堅持下去？

HOW HAVE YOU BEEN COPING WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON?

你是如何應對這些事情的？

>> OH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAPPILY TRADE

>> 哦，你知道，我想，大多數人都願意交易

THEIR STRUGGLES FOR MINE.

他們為我的奮鬥：

>> James: WELL YES, THERE IS LOTS OF BLESSINGS TO KOWBILITY

>> 詹姆斯。嗯，是的，有很多的祝福 叩拜。

COUNT, FOR SURE.

數，肯定的。

BUT I'M CONNEDDERRING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE, FOR MY MONEY

但我是在連接，因為很明顯你是，為了我的錢

ONE OF THE GREATEST WRITERS ALIVE.

現存最偉大的作家之一。

DURING ALL OF THIS TIME, DO YOU GET PEOPLE GOING WELL, THIS MUST

在所有這些時間，你得到的人去好了，這必須

BE GREAT FOR YOU.

對你有好處。

YOU CAN JUST WRITE ALL DAY AND YOU THINK YEAH, I DON'T FEEL

你可以一整天都在寫作，而你認為是的，我不覺得。

THAT CREATIVE RIGHT NOW SUR PIEINGLY-- SURPRISINGLY.

那創意現在SUR派 - 驚喜。

>> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> 這是完全正確的。

I DON'T FEEL THAT CREATIVE RIGHT NOW.

我不覺得現在的創意。

I'M MORE FRIGHTENED THAN ANYTHING.

我比任何事情都要害怕。

AND IT ST HARD WHEN YOU KNOW, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY

當你知道有很多人都很難受的時候

SUFFERING.

痛苦：

EITHER THEY'RE SICK OR THEY ARE UNEMPLOYED OR THEY ARE NOT IN

要麼是生病了，要麼是失業了，要麼是沒有工作。

SCHOOL.

學校：

IT'S BAD OUT THERE.

那裡很糟糕。

SO IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ME.

所以這對我不好。

>> OBVIOUSLY THE ELECTION IS COMING UP.

>>顯然選舉在即。

IT'S BEEN AN ABSOLUTE ROLLER COASTER.

它已經是一個絕對的滾軸。

EVERY DAY SOME CRAZY NEWS STORY, UNFORE SEEN.

每天都有一些瘋狂的新聞故事，前所未見。

WHAT'S BEEN THE MOST SHOCKING EVENT FOR YOU OUT OF THIS

對你來說，這次最震驚的事件是什麼？

ELECTION?

選舉？

WHAT IS THE ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT OVER THESE PAST KNEW

什麼是最突出的一件事，而不是過去知道的。

MONTHS.

月數：

>> FIRST OF ALL, LET'S REMEMBER I HAVE BEEN ENGAGED POLITICALLY

>>首先，讓我們記住，我已經參與了政治。

IN FICTIONAL WORLDS, WHERE I GET TO DECIDE WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS

在虛構的世界裡，在那裡我可以決定每個人說的話

AND DOES.

並做到了。

BUT WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST SHOCKING THING HAS BEEN THE

但毫無疑問，最讓人震驚的事情是...

PRESIDENT TELLING US OVER AND OVER THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A

主席一遍又一遍地告訴我們，不會再有了。

PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER.

和平移交權力；

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A HEADS UP, THAT MEN WITH BOX

我覺得我們已經得到了一個警告，那就是帶盒子的男人。

CUTTERS AND BAD INTENTIONS ARE BOARDING PASSING TO PLANES.

Cutters和壞意念是登機傳到飛機上。

THAT IS SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULDER WHAT.

這是我從來沒有想過的事情 我想我想什麼。

I DON'T ANY ANY OF US DID.

我沒有任何一個人做的。

>> James: BECAUSE I REMEMBER, HE ALLUDED TO IT WHEN HE WAS

>> 詹姆斯。因為我記得，他提到了它，當他是。

RUNNING IN 2016.

在2016年運行。

THERE WAS A MOMENT IN 2016 WHERE HE SAID I WILL-- THE PROTEST IF

2016年有一個時刻，他說我會... ...如果的抗議。

I WIN.

我贏了。

I REMEMBER WATCHING THAT THINKING THAT'S IT NOBODY CAN

我記得我看了那場比賽，覺得就是這樣，沒有人可以做到。

TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY IN SUCH A WAY AND GO ON TO BECOME THE

以這樣的方式談論民主，然後繼續做一個民主的人。

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

美國總統：

AND I MEAN HOW WRONG COULD I HAVE BEEN.

我的意思是，我怎麼會錯了。

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> 沒錯。

HE IS NOW THE PRESIDENT SAYING IS THAT UNLESS HE WINS IT'S BEEN

他現在說的是，除非他贏了，否則就會被淘汰。

RIGGED.

RIGGED。

THAT MAIL-IN BALLOTS ARE CORRUPT AND HE HAS PEOPLE BELIEVING IT.

他說郵寄投票是腐敗的，他讓人們相信它。

AND IF-- THERE WAS A POLL RECENTLY, 23% OF AMERICANS

如果... ... 最近有一個民意調查，23％的美國人，

BELIEVE IN Q A NON, SO THERE-- Q-ANON, SO THERE IS A

相信Q A NON，所以有... Q A NON，所以有一個。

HUGE POPULATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GULL I BELIEVE AND A THIRD

大批的人誰是牛，我相信和第三。

WHO HAVE THIS IDIOCY THAT TRUMP AND HIS ABLERS ARE TRYING TO

誰有這種白痴，特朗普和他的助手們正在試圖

SELL.

賣。

>> DOES IT COME DOWN TO A RESPONSIBILITY IN THE MEDIA,

>> 它是否歸結為媒體的責任。

WHICH IS SOMETHING IN YOUR JOE I REALLY LOVED THE NEWSROOM, YOU

我真的很喜歡新聞室，你呢？

TOUCHED UPON QUITE A FEW TIMES.

摸過不少次。

THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MEDIA TO NOT BE ENTERTAINED.

媒體有責任不被娛樂。

TO JUST BE FACT DRIFEN.

要只是事實DRIFEN。

HOW DO WE-- HOW IS THAT PROTECTIVE AND BRING IF IN A

我們如何... 如何保護和帶來的IF在一個。

WAY, WHAT YOU NEED SELF-REE NEWS CONVERSATION IN-- ORGANIZATION

途徑，你需要什麼自如的新聞交談中--組織

IN AMERICA IF NOT THE WORLD TO GO WHOEVER ANNOUNCES THAT

在美國，如果不是世界去誰宣佈，

SOMEONE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE WON.

有人可能會贏，也可能不會贏。

WELL NOT EVERY VOTE HAS BEEN COUNTED AND WE WILL NOT RESPOND

好吧，不是每張票都被計算過了，我們也不會迴應。

TO THAT.

到，。

>> YEAH, THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU SAY THE MEDIA, WHO EXACTLY ARE

>> 是的，問題是，當你說媒體，到底是誰？

WE TALKING ABOUT NOW?

我們現在在說什麼？

BECAUSE THERE IS ONE NETWORK, ONE NEWS NETWORK THAT HAS A LOT

因為有一個網絡，一個新聞網絡，有很多。

OF VIEWERS THAT LIES TO ITS VIEWERS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

經常對觀眾撒謊的觀眾的比例。

I THINK THAT FRANKLY I THINK THE EXCEPTION OF FOX, THE OTHER NEWS

我認為，坦率地說，我認為例外的福克斯，其他新聞

NETWORK, AND NEWS OUTLET, NOT JUST TELEVISION, PRINT, ONLINE,

網絡和新聞機構，而不僅僅是電視、報紙、網絡。

HAVE ACTUALLY IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF

在過去的四年裡，實際上已經做了一件了不起的工作，即

COMING AROUND TO THE BELIEF THAT THIS ISN'T NORMAL A.

走向相信這不是正常的 A．

THAT WE SHOULD CALL A LIE A LIE.

我們應該把謊言稱為謊言。

FRANKLY I THANK GOD FOR THEM, THAT THIS HAS NEVER BECOME

坦率地說，我感謝上帝為他們，這從來沒有成為。

NORMALIZED.

正常化。

AND BY THE WAY THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO DESERVE THANKS FOR, THAT FOR

順便說一下，其他值得感謝的人，這對於

NOT NORMALIZING THAT, YOU AND THE OTHER LATE NIGHT HOSTS.

不正常化，你和其他深夜節目主持人。

>> James: I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT MOSTLY ME.

>> 詹姆斯。我聽到你在說什麼，但我。

>> James: WHEN.

>> 詹姆斯。什麼時候。

>> WHEN THE DAY COMES YOU DON'T OPEN YOUR SHOW WITH YOU CAN

>> 當有一天，你不與你的表演開場時，你就會發現，你是一個很好的人。

BELIEVE WHAT IS GOING ON, THAT IS WHEN WE ALL CAN GET

相信正在發生的事情，那是我們所有人都能得到的。

FRIGHTENED.

嚇壞了。

>> James: I THINK A TAKE A THE LO OF CREDIT FOR THAT, I THINK

>> 詹姆斯。我想我們應該感謝你，我想。

IT'S MOSTLY ME.

這是我的錯。

>> IT IS MOSTLY YOU.

>> 是你的錯。

>> James: IN MANY RESPECTS, IF I HADN'T BEEN HERE THE LAST FOUR

>> 詹姆斯。在許多方面，如果我沒有在這裡的過去四年

YEARS, I AM AFRAID TO THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

年，我不敢想象會發生什麼。

BECAUSE I.

因為我：

>> JOKE ALL YOU WANT, MY BRITISH FRIEND, BUT IT'S TRUE.

>> 隨你怎麼開玩笑，我的英國朋友，但這是真的。

>> James: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE

>> 詹姆斯。我們正在談論， 我不能相信，

THIS, IT MADE ME FEEL VERY OLD BUT WE ARE COMING UP TO THE TEN

這一點，它讓我覺得很老，但我們即將到來的十。

YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE SOCIAL NETWORK BEING RELEASED.

年週年的社會網絡發佈。

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT IL FILM, WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW WHEN YOU

當你看到那部IL電影時，你會怎麼想？

SEE WHAT FACEBOOK HAS BECOME AND WHAT IT REPRESENTEDS TO SO MANY

看看FACEBOOK變成了什麼樣子，它代表了很多人的心聲。

PEOPLE.

人。

>> YEAH.

>> 是的。

LISTEN, I KNOW MORE ABOUT FACEBOOK IN 2005 THAN I DO ABOUT

聽著，我對2005年的FACEBOOK的瞭解比對我的瞭解還要多。

IT IN 2020.

它在2020年。

>> James: FOR SURE.

>> 詹姆斯。當然。

>> BUT BACK THEN I JUST FELTS THAT FACEBOOK AND OTHER SOCIAL

>> 但當時我只是覺得FACEBOOK和其他的社交網站都是很好的選擇。

MEDIA WERE JUST KIND OF BAD FOR US SOCIALLY.

媒體只是有點壞 我們的社會。

IT WASN'T A GOOD WAY TO SOCIALIZE WITH PEOPLE.

這不是與人交往的好方法。

BUT NOW IT'S GROWN TO BE MUCH, MUCH WORSE THAN THAT.

但現在已經發展到比這更糟糕的地步了。

ST A AMPLIFIER AND MULTIPLIER OF BAD INFORMATION, WHICH AGAIN, IT

ST一個放大機和多倍的壞資訊，其中再一次，它。

WOULDN'T MATTER IF PEOPLE WEREN'T QUITE SO GULLIBLE.

如果人們不那麼愚蠢，就不會有什麼問題。

AND AVAILABLE WITH THIS ABSURD INFORMATION.

和可用與此荒謬的資訊。

IF PEOPLE TOOK THEIR NEWS DIELT MORE SERIOUSLY.

如果人們更認真地對待他們的新聞報道，

>> James: BUT ALSO IT IS THE ALGORITHM.

>> 詹姆斯。但它也是一種算法。

YOU COULD HAVE A SLIGHT INTEREST ARE O I SLIGHT THOUGHT AND THE

你可以有一個輕微的興趣是我輕微的思想和。

ALGORITHM WILL TAKE YOU FURTHER INTO WHATEVER IT IS YOU MIGHT BE

算術將帶你更進一步地進入你可能的領域。

SORT OF INTERESTED IN.

有點興趣。

SO IT SORT OF, IT BECOMES A THING WHERE LIKE NO LONGER, I

所以，它的排序，它成為一個東西 在那裡喜歡沒有長，我。

THINK BACK TO 2005 WHEN YOU WROTE THE FILM AND YOU SORT OF

回想一下2005年，當你寫了這部電影，你就有點...

THINK WELL, SORRY, WHEN FACE BOOK STARTED IT AND YOU STARTED

想好了，對不起，當FACE BOOK開始的時候，你就開始了。

TO WRITE THE FILM AFTER THAT.

寫電影之後。

THE ARGUMENT WAS THAT WE ARE JUST A PLATFORM.

爭論是我們只是一個平臺。

WE ARE JUST A FLAT FORM WHERE THINGS EXISTED.

我們只是一個平坦的形式，在那裡的東西存在。

THAT ARGUMENT DOESN'T HOLD UP TODAY.

這個論點在今天不成立。

>> NO, IT DOESN'T HOLD UP ANY MORE.

>> 不，它已經撐不住了。

MAWB THAT WAS THE IDEA.

MAWB，這就是我們的想法。

BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT IT HAS BECOME NOW.

但你得看看它，看看它現在變成了什麼樣子。

AND WHAT IT HAS BECOME IS THAT THEY'RE GOING, FACEBOOK IS GOING

而它已經成為什麼，他們是怎麼回事，Facebook的是怎麼回事。

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.

鬥鬥鬥鬥鬥鬥鬥鬥。

>> WE HAVE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR BRILLIANT NEW FILM, THE

>> 我們必須祝賀你的精彩新片，"The"。

TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO SEVEN.

對芝加哥七人組的審判。

THIS SAY MOVIE YOU WROTE AND DIRECTED.

這說電影是你寫的和導演的。

FOR ANYONE WHO HADN'T CAUGHT IT YET.

對於任何一個還沒有發現它的人，

TELL US WHAT IT ABOUT.

告訴我們它是什麼。

>> SURE, IT SAY TRUE STORY.

>> 當然，它說的是真實的故事。

IN 1968, THERE WAS AN ANTIWAR PROTEST OF THE DEMOCRATIC

在1968年，有一個反戰抗議的民主黨人

NATIONAL CONVENTION IN CHICAGO.

在芝加哥舉行的全國大會：

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PEACEFUL PROTEST BUT HE SOLVED INTO A

本來是一次和平的抗議，但他卻解決了。

TERRIBLE CLASH BETWEEN POLICE AND NATIONAL GUARD.

警察和國民警衛隊之間的可怕衝突。

SEVEN LEADERS OF THAT PROTEST, EIGHT ACTUALLY.

那次抗議的七位領導人，實際有八位。

THERE ARE EIGHT NUMBER MEMBERS OF THE CHICAGO SEVEN, WERE PUT

有八個數字成員的芝加哥七人組，被置於

ON TREUL AND CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACY TO CROSS STATE LINES

關於特雷烏爾和被控密謀越界的問題

IN ORDER TO INSIGHT A RIOT.

為了洞察一場暴亂。

IT IS A FEDERAL CRIME, IT COMES WITH TEN YEARS IN PRISON AND THE

這是一個聯邦犯罪，它有十年的監禁和。

TRIAL ITSELF ULTIMATELY BECAME ONE OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS TRIALS

審判本身最終成為最臭名昭著的審判之一。

IN HISTORY FROM-- THE DEFENDANTS WRE VERY COLORFUL, THE JUDGE

在歷史上... ... 被告人是非常豐富多彩的，法官。

WAS CRAZY, AND SCM HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPENED IN THAT COURT

是瘋狂的，和SCM可怕的事情發生在該法院。

ROOM THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN ANY AMERICAN COURT.

不應該發生在任何美國法院的房間。

>> James: THIS IS A STORY I KNOW YOU HAVE WANTED TO TELL FOR

>> 詹姆斯。這是一個故事，我知道你已經想講了

QUITE SOME TIME DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, COULD YOU EVEN BEGIN TO

有一段時間，你有沒有想過，你能不能開始...

ANTICIPATE HOW RELEVANT THE FILM WOULD FEEL AT THIS MOMENT RIGHT

想象一下此刻這部電影的相關性

NOW?

現在？

>> NO, NEVER.

>> 不，永遠不會。

LOOK, IT STARTED 14 YOORS AGO WHEN STEPHEN SPIELBERG ASKED ME

聽著，這一切都始於14歲前，斯蒂芬-斯皮爾伯格問我的時候。

TO COME OVER TO HIS HOUSE ON A SATURDAY MORNING.

在一個星期六的早晨來他家。

SO IT IS VERY UNUSUAL.

所以它是非常不尋常的。

I DON'T HANG OUT WITH STEVEN SPIELBERG.

我不跟斯蒂文-斯皮爾伯格混在一起。

HE TOLD ME THAT HE WANTED TO MAWK A MOVIE ABOUT THE CHICAGO

他告訴我，他想拍一部關於芝加哥的電影。

SEVEN AND CRAZY CONSPIRACY TRIAL THAT FOLD.

七、瘋狂的陰謀審判，折。

I SAID IT IS A GREAT IDEA.

我說這是個好主意。

COUNT ME IN AND A LEFT HIS HOUSE AND CALLED MY FATHER AND ASKED

算我一個，離開了他的房子，打電話給我父親，問道：

TO DO THE CHICAGO SEVEN.

做芝加哥七人組。

I HAD NO IDEA WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, STEVEN SPIELBERG

我不知道他在說什麼，斯蒂文-斯皮爾伯格。

ACTED THE WAY ANYONE WOULD.

表現的方式任何人都會。

BUT AFTER DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH, THEN IT JUST BECAME A

但在做了大量的研究後，然後它就變成了一個。

REALLY GOOD STORY TO TELL.

真正的好故事要講。

THIS IS GOING TO BE A TERRIBLE MOVIE.

這將是一部可怕的電影。

>> I FEEL LUKE YOU ARE-- YOUR ENTIRE KAER RADIO, YOU HAVE

>> 我覺得盧克你是... 你的整個凱爾電臺，你已經...

REALLY HAD A NABBING AT OF BEING SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON

真的有一個搶佔了略微領先的曲線上。

WHAT YOU THINK PEOPLE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT OR CARE ABOUT.

你認為人們可能會談論或關心什麼？

EVEN WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THE NEWSROOM, THE SOCIAL

甚至我們今天所談的，新聞中心，社會上的

NETWORK, AND NOW THIS, TO TAKE IT ON AS A DIRECTOR, BECAUSE IT

網絡，現在這個，把它作為一個導演，因為它。

IS A VERY DIFFERENT FILM, WAS THAT DAWNTING, THE SCALE OF TRK

是一部非常不同的電影，是那個黎明，TRK的規模。

THE SIZE OF IT?

它的大小？

>> YEAH, IT WAS INCREDIBLY DAWNTING TO ME, IT WOULD HAVE

>> 是啊，這對我來說是無比的曙光，它將不得不

BEEN DAWNTING TO ME IF IT WAS TWO PEOPLE IN A ROOM BUT THE

如果是兩個人在一個房間裡，但我一直在想

FACT THAT THERE WEREGOING TO BE RIOTS AND TEAR GAS AS WELL AS A

事實上，將有暴亂和毒氣以及一個

PRINCIPAL CAST OF 12 OTHER 13 PEOPLE.

12個其他13人的主要演員。

THIS WAS A MUCH BIGGER THING THAN I IMAGINED I COULD

這是一個更大的事情，比我想象的我可以。

WRANGLING BUT HI A LOT OF HELP.

WRANGLING BUT HI LOT OF HELP.

>> James: DID SPIELBERG EVER VISIT THE SET?

>> 詹姆斯。SPIELBERG曾經訪問過現場嗎？

>> YEAH, WHAT IS THAT LIKE WHEN ARE YOU DREAMTING AND HE IS SITK

>> 是啊，那是什麼樣子，當你在做夢，而他是SITK。

ON YOUR SHOULDER.

在你的肩膀上。

>> WHEN ARE YOU DIRECTING SEVERAL OF THE GREATEST ACTORS

>> 你什麼時候執導過幾位最偉大的演員？

IN THE WORLD.

在世界上。

>> YEAH.

>> 是的。

>> WITH STEVEN SPIELBERG STANDING BEHIND YOU.

>> 有斯蒂文-斯皮爾伯格站在你身後。

YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GO THROUGH IT YOU JUST, IT REALLY, I CAN'T DO

你知道，你只是去通過它 你只是，它真的，我不能做

IT RIGHT.

它的權利。

THERE IS NO RIGHT MOVE I CAN MAKE HERE SO IT JUST MOVES THE

我不能在這裡做正確的動作，所以它只是移動的。

SET ALONG.

設置沿。

I THINK AT ONE POINT I WENT TO THE GUYS, HE I WENT TO SACHA

我想有一次，我去找那些傢伙，他去找薩沙

BARON COHEN AND JEREMY STRONG AND MARK RILEY AND REACHED IN TO

科恩男爵和傑里米-斯特朗和馬克-裡利，並達到了在

MY POCKET.

我的口袋裡。

HI $23, I SAID GUYS, THE $23 IS YOURS, WHAT BUILD IF YOU CAN

嗨，23美元，我說夥計們，23美元是你的，如果你能，你會做什麼？

JUST BE COOL THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.

接下來的幾個小時要保持冷靜。

>> James: WELL, THEY ABSOLUTELY TOOK IT ON BECAUSE

>> 詹姆斯。好了，他們絕對把它上，因為

THE FILM IS BRILLIANT AND I URGE EVERYONE TO SEE IT

這部電影很精彩，我懇請大家去看。