it feels like you always have the answers, right?

這感覺就像你總是有答案，對不對？

And it's easy to say that "Oh, I knew, I knew, I knew".

而且很容易說 "哦，我知道，我知道，我知道"。

And most things I won't be able to say

而且大部分事情我都說不出來了

that I knew I was on the right course,

我知道我是在正確的路線上。

but for the Wu-Tang Clan, I knew.

但對於武當派，我知道。

Peace, whatup yo?

和平，怎麼了喲？

This is RZA, right here, from the Wu-Tang Clan

這是RZA，就在這裡，來自武當幫的。

and this is the timeline of my career.

這是我職業生涯的時間軸。

♪ I got too many ladies ♪

我得到了太多的女士

♪ I got to learn to say no ♪

我得學會說 "不

♪ Ohh, We Love You Rakeem ♪

哦，我們愛你Rakeem

When I first started makin' music I was part of a crew:

當我第一次開始做音樂的時候，我是一個團隊的一員。

me, Ol' Dirty Bastard, and GZA

我，Ol'Dirty Bastard，和GZA。

called "All in Together Now".

叫做 "現在大家在一起"。

And we had joined the manager named Melquan.

而我們加盟的經理叫梅爾坎。

And Melquan thought that I had the lyrical talent

而梅爾坎認為我有抒情的天賦。

to be a solo artist,

要做一個獨當一面的藝術家。

so he put me in the studio to record songs, on my own.

所以他把我放在工作室 錄製歌曲，在我自己的。

But none were as catchy,

但都沒有那麼吸引人。

or as poppy as the hip-hop movement was at that time.

或像當時的嘻哈運動一樣流行。

And so Tommy Boy suggested that I recorded a song

所以湯米男孩建議我錄一首歌。

that had more of a pop appeal

更具流行魅力

and kind of fun, female-orientated song.

和種有趣的，女性化的歌曲。

"Ooh We Love You Rakeem" became that song.

"哦，我們愛你Rakeem "成了那首歌。

It became my first single as a recording artist,

它成為我作為錄音師的第一首單曲。

my first release, my first video.

我的第一次發佈， 我的第一個視頻。

When you try to go and become an artist,

當你試圖去成為一個藝術家。

and you record a song, and you get a video,

和你錄製一首歌，你得到一個視頻。

you feel that life is gonna be all uphill.

你覺得生活會是所有的上坡。

But the song didn't work,

但這首歌沒有用。

and so eventually Tommy Boy pulled the plug

所以最終湯米男孩拔掉了插頭

on my album project.

在我的專輯計劃中。

There was a defeat in all reality,

現實中都有敗績。

but I think my determination

但我想我的決心

and my personality of not accepting defeat,

以及我不服輸的性格。

I didn't blame myself.

我沒有責怪自己。

I didn't blame nobody.

我沒有責怪任何人。

I just felt like it was a bad move

我只是覺得這是個錯誤的舉動

and I gotta make a better move.

我得做一個更好的動作。

And so, even though I felt the defeat of it,

所以，儘管我感覺到了它的失敗。

that defeat actually fueled me

一敗塗地

to make sure my next attempt became successful.

以確保我的下一次嘗試變得成功。

♪ The ruckus, ten times ten men committing mad sin ♪

喧鬧，十次十人犯瘋罪

♪ Turn the other cheek ♪

* Turn the other cheek *

♪ And I'll break your fucking chin ♪

我將打破你他媽的下巴

♪ Slaying boom-bangs like African drums [we'll be] ♪

# Slaying boom -bangs like African drums [we'll be] #

♪ Coming around the mountain when I come ♪

繞山而來，當我來

For me, creatively, I realized that the best thing

對我來說，在創作上，我意識到，最好的事情是

I could do is express myself, unfiltered,

我可以做的就是表達自己的想法，不加過濾。

uninfluenced by outside opinions.

不受外界意見的影響。

If I'm feelin' good about it

如果我感覺良好的話

and if my immediate crew around me is feelin' good about it,

而如果我身邊的工作人員感覺良好的話。

something has to be good about it.

有些東西必須是好的。

So I returned back to my hip-hop roots.

於是我又回到了我的嘻哈根源。

Was just makin' beats in my my basement,

我只是在我的地下室裡打打拍子。

making songs, spontaneous, based on a vibe,

創作歌曲，自發的，基於一種氛圍。

and I was feelin',

我覺得'。

it was all about, just coming with a natural,

這一切的一切，都是為了，只是帶著一種自然而然的來。

unpredictable talent that I felt that I had inside me.

不可預知的天賦，我覺得我內心有。

And that led me to start making beats

這讓我開始做節拍

that was probably obscure,

那可能是晦澀難懂的。

very different from a lot of producers at the the time.

與當時的很多製作人非常不同。

And it also led me to connect with my Wu-Tang brothers,

也讓我與武當兄弟們建立了聯繫。

other MCs who also was hungry

其他司儀也很餓

for the raw style of hip-hop,

為原始風格的嘻哈。

the style of hip-hop that was really based in lyricism,

嘻哈的風格，是真正基於抒情。

and MC battles, and challenges.

和MC的戰鬥，和挑戰。

And you take that energy

而你把這種能量

along with, I think, some of mythology

還有，我想，一些神話故事。

that we acquired through watching kung-fu movies

武俠片裡看出來的東西

and reading comic books.

和閱讀漫畫書。

When we fused our natural lives together,

當我們把自然生活融合在一起的時候。

it definitely effected and created a product

它肯定會影響和創造一個產品

that stands the test of time.

經得起時間考驗的。

For me to go back and reflect

讓我回去反思一下

on the first sessions that Wu-Tang had,

在武當的第一次會議上。

I mean, there had to be something,

我的意思是，必須有一些東西。

like Columbus discovering America,

就像哥倫布發現美洲一樣。

like a new frontier.

如同一個新的疆域。

But to get all nine members and all this energy,

但為了讓九名成員和這些能量。

bundled together in the studio session

捆綁式錄音棚

was unknown of, unheard of,

是不為人知的，聞所未聞的。

and for me, it was just total excitement.

而對我來說，這只是總的興奮。

And as the producer,

而作為製作人。

I never left the studio.

我從來沒有離開過工作室。

You know, you look back and see me in old documentaries,

你知道嗎，你回過頭來看看我在老紀錄片裡的樣子。

you'll see me just,

你會看到我只是。

you could tell my Under Armours was smelling bad, y'all.

你可以告訴我，我的Under Armours是聞起來很糟糕，你們。

Because you could tell that I slept there,

因為你能看出我睡在那裡。

I got up in the next day,

第二天我就起來了。

I kept goin', I kept goin'.

我不停地走，我不停地走。

It felt, kinda, almost like mad scientist

這感覺，有點，幾乎像瘋狂的科學家

tryin' to create something.

試圖創造一些東西。

Exuberating, exhilarating, all the energies

旺盛的，令人振奮的，所有的能量。

that I felt recording that album

我覺得錄製那張專輯

has never been captured again in our reality.

在我們的現實生活中再也沒有捕捉到過。

It was experimenting and going into what was unknown.

這是在實驗，去做未知的事情。

You know?

你知道嗎？

But bravely going into it, you know?

但勇敢地去做，你知道嗎？

Creatively.

創意上。

It's that style of bringing sound energy together

是那種將聲音能量凝聚在一起的風格。

was definitely new

絕對是新的

and as that mad scientist producer,

而作為那個瘋狂的科學家制作人，

it was like the trip of a lifetime.

這就像一生的旅行。

♪ Escape from your Dragon's Lair ♪

逃離你的龍穴

♪ In particular ♪

特別是

♪ My beats travel like a vortex ♪

我的節拍旅行像一個漩渦

♪ Through your spine ♪

通過你的脊柱

♪ To the top of your cerebral cortex ♪

? 你的大腦皮層的頂部?

♪ Make you feel like you bust [buzz] from raw sex ♪

讓你覺得你胸圍[嗡嗡]從原始的性愛

After going through the first five albums

在經歷了前五張專輯

into the "36 Chambers",

成 "三十六院"。

"Return to the 36 Chambers", O.D.B,

"重返三十六宮"，O.D.B。

to "Cow" by Method Man,

到 "牛 "的方法人。

"Only Built 4 Cuban Linx..." by Raekwon,

"只建了4個古巴林克斯... "由Raekwon。

"Liquid Swords" by the GZA,

GZA的 "液體劍"。

even "Ironman" by Ghostface Killah,

甚至是鬼臉基拉的《鐵人》。

and maybe the Gravediggaz,

也許還有Gravediggaz。

so all these records that came out,

所以，所有這些記錄，出來了。

all was platinum or gold, and critically acclaimed

都是鉑金或金幣，並廣受好評。

and it was like the Wu-movement

就像 "吳運動 "一樣

felt like it was really firmly established in hip-hop.

覺得它在嘻哈中的地位真的很穩固。

So after all these solo albums,

所以在出了這麼多個人專輯之後。

it's now time to regroup and go back in the studio

現在是時候重整旗鼓，回到工作室了

and try to recapture that team of energy

並試圖重新找回那支精力充沛的隊伍。

that we did on "36 Chambers".

我們在 "三十六計 "上做的。

I was probably at my best creative self.

我大概是在我最好的創作狀態。

I had gained some knowledge on music theory.

我對樂理知識有了一定的瞭解。

My music equipment was advanced at that stage as well.

我的音樂設備在那個階段也很先進。

It wasn't the same as when we was doing the first album

這和我們做第一張專輯的時候不一樣了。

where we all was in the studio,

在那裡我們都在工作室。

you know, sharing a big [indistinct],

你知道，共享一個大[模糊]。

sharing a sandwich.

分享一個三明治。

It was like, now success was tasted by everyone.

就像，現在成功的滋味大家都嚐到了。

It wasn't egos,

這不是自負。

it was more like everyone now wanted to come back together

更像是現在大家都想重歸於好的樣子

and prove that Wu-Tang could be number one.

並證明武當可以成為第一。

I asked these guys to give me five years

我讓這些人給我五年時間

and I promised we would be number one,

我保證我們會成為第一。

so now it was time to live up to that promise.

所以現在是時候實現這個承諾了。

We actually all headed to California,

我們其實都是去加州的。

and we had what they called the Oakwood apartments.

我們有什麼他們所謂的奧克伍德公寓。

And we rented out fifteen apartments.

我們租了十五間公寓

We rented out two studios

我們租了兩個工作室

and these studios was going 24 hours a day.

這些工作室一天24小時都在工作。

It was really like the studio was kinda like a barbecue,

真的就像工作室有點像燒烤一樣。

you know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Because there was so many of us there

因為那裡有我們這麼多人

and so much talent being recorded.

和這麼多的人才被記錄下來。

We rocked that place.

我們在那地方很受歡迎

It came out and it was number one on the Billboards.

它出來後，在廣告牌上排名第一。

We shipped two million records in the first couple of weeks.

我們在前幾周運出了兩百萬張唱片。

And it was a double album.

而且是雙專輯。

And so that means it ended up grossing the industry

所以，這意味著它最終的總收入是行業的

about 40 million dollars, yo.

約4000萬美元，喲。

And that's, like, Hollywood numbers,

而這，就像，好萊塢的數字。

you know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

We felt like Hollywood stars.

我們覺得自己像好萊塢的明星。

We definitely felt like we were sittin' on top of the world.

我們絕對覺得我們是坐在世界之巔。

I felt it, as a producer, as a MC,

我感覺到了，作為一個製作人，作為一個MC。

but more importantly for me,

但對我來說更重要的是。

I think I felt that what I considered the nine greatest MCs

我想我覺得我認為的九大MCs。

in the world had arrived to their destiny

世間萬物皆有歸宿

to show the world that they was number one.

向世界展示他們是第一。

It was our triumph.

這是我們的勝利。

[melodic hip-hop beat]

[旋律hip -hop節奏]

- Ghost Dog, Power Equality.

- 鬼狗，權力平等。

- Always see everything, my brother

- 總是看到一切，我的兄弟

- So after "Wu-Tang Forever",

- 所以在《武當永遠》之後。

if any fans of Wu-Tang would listen to the album,

如果有武當的粉絲會聽這張專輯。

you would know the songs like "Reunited"

你應該知道《重逢》這首歌吧？

and you would hear loud violins being played

你會聽到響亮的小提琴聲

and you would hear that certain melodies

你會聽到某些旋律

and certain chord progresses are starting to grow.

和某些和絃進度開始增長。

It's starting to become more classical in production style.

它的製作風格開始變得更加古典。

So music theory is evolving more and more inside of me.

所以，音樂理論在我內心的發展越來越多。

And then, having a chance to be friends with Quincy Jones

然後，有機會和昆西-瓊斯做朋友 And then, having a chance to be friends with Quincy Jones.

and have a lot of conversations with him

和他聊了很多

about jazz theory and what music should be,

關於爵士樂理論和音樂應該是什麼。

and then one day in my office,

然後有一天在我的辦公室。

a guy named Dreddy Kruger shows up at my office

一個叫Dreddy Kruger的人出現在我的辦公室。

with Jim Jarmusch.

與Jim Jarmusch。

And Jim Jarmusch, I think they met each other,

而吉姆-賈木許，我想他們是互相認識的。

they had the same weed dealer.

他們有相同的雜草經銷商。

He shows up and he says that he has a film

他出現了，他說他有一部電影。

he's working on called "Ghost Dog"

他的作品叫 "幽靈狗"

and he want me to be the composer.

他要我做作曲家。

And it clicked for me,

而且它為我點擊了。

it's like "wow, I was headed to be a composer".

這就像 "哇，我本來是要當作曲家的"。

And it all just fell in place.

而這一切就這樣落到了實處。

I had conversation with Quincy Jones,

我和昆西-瓊斯談過了。

he composed his first movie at the age of thirty,

他在三十歲時創作了他的第一部電影。

and I think I had just turned twenty eight

我想我當時剛滿28歲

and I was like "well? If I start now, maybe I can catch up

我當時想 "好吧？如果我現在開始，也許我可以趕上。

and be, you know, as great as you one day".

並且，你知道，有一天會和你一樣偉大"。

When you want to go from hip-hop music to scoring,

當你想從嘻哈音樂轉為配樂。

it's not an easy transition.

這不是一個簡單的過渡。

In fact, if you hear Jim tell you the story,

事實上，如果你聽吉姆給你講故事。

I could've been, up to that day,

我本可以，到那天為止。

the toughest composer he worked with

最難纏的作曲家

because I didn't understand the technical,

因為我不懂技術。

logistical side of what composing was.

後勤方面是什麼作曲。

Jim, he tells the story and we laugh about it,

吉姆，他講故事，我們笑談。

that I would show up to the scoring session

我會出現在計分會議上的

with a deck full of music,

與滿滿一副音樂。

but not placed properly in the movie

但在電影中的位置不對

and I would show up at eleven pm at night,

而我晚上十一點就會出現在這裡。

me and O.D.B. with a couple of 40s.

我和O. D. B. 與一對40多歲的夫婦。

It was like "here's the next few pieces

這就像 "這裡是接下來的幾塊

of music that I wrote for the movie",

的音樂，我為電影寫的"。

and he has to go and figure out like "wait what do I do?".

他要去想出像 "等等我做什麼？"。

I said "well that's for that scene",

我說 "好吧，那是為了那場戲"。

but you can't do like "but that's for that scene".

但你不能像 "但那是為了那個場景"。

It has to be like "there's an in; there's an out".

要像 "有進有出"。

There's a queue sheet.

有一個隊列表。

There was no queue sheet for "Ghost Dog".

"鬼狗 "沒有排隊表。

[intense beat]

[激烈的節奏]

"Kill Bill", I think was one of the coolest things

"殺死比爾"，我認為是最酷的事情之一。

that happened to my career, to that date.

在我的職業生涯中發生的事情，到那一天。

I mean, having number one albums

我的意思是，有第一的專輯

and going to platinum records, of course, is great

和去白金唱片，當然，是偉大的。

but a movie score on such a big film.

但在這麼大的電影上的電影配樂。

I think we got nominated for BAFTAs and Oscars.

我想我們獲得了BAFTAs和奧斯卡獎的提名。

It was just a different, a different experience for me.

對我來說，這只是一種不同的，不同的體驗。

And working with a great mind like Quentin Tarantino,

還和昆汀-塔倫蒂諾這樣的大人物合作。

a great creative mind,

一個偉大的創造性的頭腦。

a music lover,

一個音樂愛好者。

and eventually a mentor of mine.

並最終成為我的導師。

When he had the script of "Kill Bill",

當他拿到《殺死比爾》的劇本時。

he put it in my hands,

他把它放在我的手中。

said "I want you to read this".

說 "我想讓你看這個"。

And I read it and I was just amazed by it.

而我看了之後，我就被它驚呆了。

I think it was 200 pages

我想是200頁

but in the original draft of the script

但在劇本原稿中

he had, like, the sound effects written in it,

他有，像， 音效寫在它。

'cause you know, I make my music like that,

因為你知道，我做我的音樂是這樣的。

so I'm like "this guy is in the same mind frame".

所以我就想 "這傢伙的心態是一樣的"。

I actually realized that I wanted to learn

其實我意識到，我想學習

about film directing,

關於電影導演。

and he was interested in learning about music production.

而且他對學習音樂製作很感興趣。

We said we would exchange ideas

我們說過要交換意見

and that led to me going to China,