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  • Hello. This is 6 Minute English from

    你好,這裡是6分鐘英語這裡是6分鐘英語,來自

  • BBC Learning English. I'm Neil.

    BBC學習英語。我是尼爾。

  • And I'm Sam.

    我是山姆。

  • Tell me, Sam, do you think Neil Armstrong

    告訴我,山姆,你覺得尼爾-阿姆斯特朗

  • really landed on the Moon

    真的登月了

  • in 1969? I mean,

    在1969年?我的意思是

  • that must be fake news!

    那一定是假新聞!

  • And who shot JFK? Surely the CIA

    是誰殺了肯尼迪?肯定是中情局

  • were involved? Unless it was

    牽涉其中?除非是

  • the giant lizards controlling

    巨蜥

  • the government!

    政府

  • Oh dear! It looks like reading online

    哦,天哪!好像是在網上看書

  • conspiracies has sent Neil down

    陰謀讓尼爾倒下

  • the rabbit hole - an expression

    兔子洞

  • used to describe a situation which

    的情況下

  • seems interesting and uncomplicated

    似是而非

  • at first but ends up becoming

    起初,但最終成為

  • strange, confusing and hard to escape

    撲朔迷離

  • from. Luckily in this programme

    從。幸運的是,在這個方案中

  • we'll be hearing

    我們將聽到

  • some advice on how to talk

    一些關於如何交談的建議

  • to people who've become convinced

    確信的人

  • by online conspiracies.

    由網上的陰謀。

  • It seems that during times of crisis,

    看來,在危機時期。

  • as people feel uncertain and fearful,

    由於人們感到不確定和恐懼。

  • they actively

    他們積極

  • look for information to feel more secure.

    尋找資訊,才會更有安全感。

  • Nowadays this information is often

    如今,這些資訊通常是

  • found online, and while there are

    在網上發現,雖然有

  • reliable facts out there,

    可靠的事實在那裡。

  • there's also a lot of misinformation.

    也有很多錯誤的資訊。

  • Somebody who's the target of many

    有人是許多人的目標

  • conspiracy theories is Microsoft's

    陰謀論是微軟的

  • Bill Gates and our

    比爾-蓋茨和我們

  • BBC fact checkers have been busy

    英國廣播公司的事實檢查員一直在忙碌

  • debunking - or exposing - some of the

    揭穿--或揭露--一些

  • more bizarre accusations

    奇談怪論

  • made against him. But what strange

    對他提出的。但奇怪的是

  • behaviour has Bill Gates been

    比爾-蓋茨的行為已經

  • accused of recently? That's

    最近被指控的?那是

  • my quiz question for today. Is it:

    我今天的考題。是這樣的

  • a) being a member of the

    (a) 屬於

  • Chinese Communist

    中共

  • Party?, b) being an alien lizard? or,

    黨,b)是外來蜥蜴嗎,還是。

  • c) being involved in the

    (c) 參與

  • assassination of JFK?

    刺殺肯尼迪?

  • They all sounds pretty silly to me but I'll

    他們都聽起來很愚蠢的我,但我會

  • guess b) being an alien lizard.

    猜測b)是外星蜥蜴。

  • OK, Sam, if you say so! We'll find out the

    好吧,山姆,如果你這麼說的話!我們會找出

  • answer later. Now, I'm not the

    稍後回答。現在,我不是

  • only one who's

    唯獨

  • been doing some internet research.

    一直在做一些互聯網研究。

  • Ever since the outbreak of the Covid

    自從科維德事件爆發後

  • pandemic there's

    疫情

  • been an avalanche of online conspiracies

    陰謀的雪崩

  • linking Bill Gates to the coronavirus.

    將比爾-蓋茨與冠狀病毒聯繫起來。

  • Here's Marianna

    這是瑪麗安娜

  • Spring, presenter of BBC World Service

    春天

  • programme, Trending, to tell us more:

    節目《趨勢》,來告訴我們更多。

  • The Microsoft founder is a rich

    微軟創始人是個有錢人

  • and powerful person and he's funded

    有權有勢的人,他的資金

  • research into vaccines

    疫苗研究

  • - that's why he's become a target.

    - 這就是為什麼他成為目標。

  • Some of the claims are bonkers - that

    有些說法是瘋狂的--那

  • he wants to

    他想

  • use the virus as a pretext to microchip

    以病毒為藉口,將微芯片

  • everyone in the world. Others say

    世界上所有的人。還有人說

  • a vaccine would actually

    疫苗實際上

  • kill people rather than save their lives.

    殺人而不是救人。

  • These ideas are without any evidence.

    這些想法是沒有任何證據的。

  • We should

    我們應該

  • treat them with the disdain they deserve.

    對他們不屑一顧。

  • Some conspiracies claim that Bill Gates

    一些陰謀家聲稱比爾-蓋茨。

  • wants to implant microchips

    想植入微型芯片

  • in people and that he's

    在人和他的

  • using the coronavirus as a pretext - a

    以冠狀病毒為藉口----------。

  • pretend reason for doing

    假借

  • something that is used to

    用來

  • hide the real reason.

    隱瞞真實原因。

  • Claims like these are described as

    這樣的索賠被描述為

  • bonkers - an informal way

    瘋癲--一種非正式的方式

  • to say silly, stupid or

    說傻、說笨、說

  • crazy, and should therefore be treated

    瘋瘋癲癲

  • with disdain - disliking

    不屑--不喜歡

  • something because you

    因為你

  • feel it does not deserve your

    覺得不值得

  • attention or respect.

    關注或尊重。

  • But while you might not believe

    但你可能不相信

  • such bonkers theories yourself,

    自己這種胡鬧的理論。

  • it's not hard to see how

    不難看出

  • people looking for answers can get

    求知者可得

  • sucked down online rabbit holes.

    被吸進了網上的兔子洞。

  • So how would you deal some someone

    那麼你會如何處理一些人

  • spreading baseless conspiracies

    無中生有

  • about Covid vaccines

    關於Covid疫苗

  • or Bill Gates? The BBC's Trending

    還是比爾-蓋茨?BBC的趨勢

  • programme spoke to

    節目中談到的

  • Dr Jovan Byford, senior psychology

    Jovan Byford博士,高級心理學

  • lecturer with the Open University, about it.

    開放大學的講師,關於。

  • He thinks it's important to separate

    他認為,重要的是要分開

  • the conspiracy from the theorist.

    陰謀從理論家。

  • The former, the belief,

    前者,是信念。

  • we have to dismiss, but the latter, the

    我們必須駁回,但後者,即。

  • person, is more complex.

    人,是比較複雜的。

  • Here's BBC Trending's presenter,

    這是BBC趨勢的主持人。

  • Marianna Spring, again to sum up

    瑪利亞娜春天,再次總結

  • Dr Byford's advice:

    拜福德醫生的建議。

  • How do you talk to someone who's at risk

    你怎麼和一個有危險的人說話?

  • of being sucked into the rabbit hole? First,

    被吸進兔子洞的?先說說

  • establish a basis of understanding.

    建立理解的基礎;

  • Approach them on their own terms

    以他們自己的方式與他們接觸

  • and avoid sweeping

    而避免一刀切

  • dismissals or saying, 'you're wrong!'. Try

    開除或說:"你錯了!"。試試

  • not to judge. And try to get to the bottom

    不去判斷。試著去了解真相

  • of the often legitimate concern at the

    往往是合理的關注。

  • heart of the conspiracy.

    陰謀的核心。

  • Present them with facts

    向他們介紹事實

  • and research. Try to do this neutrally.

    和研究。儘量做到中立。

  • You can't force anyone to change

    你不能強迫任何人改變

  • their mind but

    其心而

  • you can make sure they

    你可以確保他們

  • have valid information.

    有有效資訊;

  • While some conspiracies may

    雖然有些陰謀可能

  • be harmless, others are more dangerous.

    是無害的,其他的就比較危險了。

  • People thinking that vaccines

    人們認為疫苗

  • will kill them might worsen the

    會殺了他們,可能會使情況更加惡化

  • coronavirus situation worldwide,

    全球冠狀病毒情況。

  • so we need to get to

    所以我們需要去

  • the bottom of these claims - discover

    揭開這些說法的底細--發現

  • the real but sometimes hidden

    虛虛實實

  • reason why something

    原因

  • happens.

    發生。

  • A good way to engage people in

    吸引人們參與的好方法

  • discussion is to avoid sweeping

    討論是為了避免一刀切

  • claims or statements

    索賠或聲明

  • - speaking or writing about things in a way

    - 言談舉止

  • that is too general and does not carefully

    蜻蜓點水

  • consider all the relevant facts.

    考慮所有相關事實;

  • And by doing so calmly and neutrally

    而通過這樣的冷靜和中立的方式。

  • you might persuade them to reconsider

    你可能會說服他們重新考慮。

  • the funny business

    趣事

  • Bill Gates is supposedly involved with.

    比爾-蓋茨據說與。

  • Ah yes, you mean our quiz question.

    啊,對了,你是說我們的測驗題。

  • I ask you what Bill Gates

    我問你比爾-蓋茨

  • has recently been

    最近

  • accused of by conspiracy theorists.

    被陰謀論者指控的。

  • And I said b) being an alien lizard.

    而我說b)是一隻外來的蜥蜴。

  • But thinking about it now,

    但現在想來。

  • that seems pretty unlikely!

    大材小用

  • In fact, the answer was c) being a member

    事實上,答案是c)是一個成員。

  • of the Chinese Communist Party.

    中國共產黨的。

  • OK. So today we've been hearing

    好的。所以,今天我們已經聽到

  • advice on how to deal

    建議如何處理

  • with online conspiracy theories,

    與網上的陰謀論。

  • some of which are totally bonkers - silly,

    其中一些是完全瘋狂的--愚蠢的。

  • stupid and crazy - or involve

    愚蠢和瘋狂 - 或涉及

  • a complicated

    龐雜

  • pretext - a pretend reason used

    藉口----------藉口

  • to hide someone's true motivation.

    掩蓋某人的真實動機。

  • These can be treated with disdain - dislike

    這些都可以用不屑一顧的態度來對待--不喜歡

  • because they are unworthy

    因為他們不配

  • of our attention

    矚目

  • or respect.

    或尊重。

  • But with so many conspiracies online, it's

    但是,網上有這麼多的陰謀,它是。

  • easy to get lost down the

    易迷路

  • rabbit hole - intrigued

    兔子洞--好奇

  • by a situation which seems interesting

    逢場作戲

  • but ends up confusing and

    卻落得個混亂和

  • hard to escape from.

    難以逃脫。

  • It's important to get to the bottom

    摸清底細很重要

  • of these theories - discover the real

    這些理論--發現真正的