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>> Stephen: HEY!
>> Stephen:嘿!
WELCOME BACK TO A "LATE SHOW," EVERYBODY.
歡迎回到 "晚間秀",各位。
MY NEXT GUEST HAS SPENT HIS CAREER IN NATIONAL SECURITY AND
我的下一個客人已經在國家安全局度過了他的職業生涯,並且...
SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE C.I.A. FROM 2013-2017.
2013年至2017年擔任中情局局長。
HE HAS JUST WRITTEN A NEW MEMOIR: "UNDAUNTED: MY FIGHT
他剛剛寫了一本新的回憶錄:"UNDAUNTED: MY FIGHT"。
AGAINST AMERICA'S ENEMIES, AT HOME AND ABROAD."
反對美國的敵人,在國內和國外。"
PLEASE WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW," DIRECTOR JOHN BRENNAN.
歡迎收看 "深夜秀",導演約翰-布倫南。
DIRECTOR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
導演,謝謝你來這裡。
>> THANKS TO THE INVITATION.
>> 謝謝你的邀請。
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION.
期待著討論。
>> Stephen: AS AM I.
>> Stephen:如我。
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS REVEALED
我想問你一件事,我發現了一件事。
TODAY.
今天。
YOU SPENT YOUR CAREER TRYING TO HELP MAKE THIS COUNTRY AND ITS
你花了你的職業生涯來幫助這個國家和我的孩子們
CITIZENS SAFE.
安全的公民。
TODAY 13 MEN WERE CHARGED WITH PLANNING TO KIDNAP MICHIGAN
今天,13名男子被指控策劃綁架密歇根州的人。
GOVERNOR GRETCHEN WHITMER AND PUT HER ON TRIAL FOR TREASON AND
格雷琴-惠特瑪總督,並以貪汙腐敗罪對她進行審判。
ATTACK THE STATE CAPITOL TO OVERTHROW THE MICHIGAN
攻打州政府,推翻密歇根州政府的統治
GOVERNMENT.
政府:
HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE EMERGENCE OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT
如何應對反政府的突發事件?
MILITIA?
MILITIA?
WHEN YOU WERE THE C.I.A.
當你是C. I. A. 的時候。
DIRECTOR, DID YOU HAVE ANY SENSE FROM THE INTELLIGENCE YOU SAW
局長,你看到的情報有什麼感覺嗎?
THAT THIS WAS A GROWING PROBLEM IN THE UNITED STATES?
這在美國是一個日益嚴重的問題?
>> WELL, ABSOLUTELY.
>> 好吧,絕對是。
EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T THE AREA OF C.I.A. FOLKS, -- FOCUS, I KNO
即使它不是C.I.A. FOLKS的領域, - 重點,我不知道。
THE F.B.I. WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS,
聯邦調查局擔心的是白人至上主義團體。
THE ONE WHO TRY TO BLAME FOREIGN INFLUENCES AS WELL AS GOVERNMENT
試圖將責任歸咎於外國勢力以及政府的人。
OVERSIGHT FOR THEIR PROBLEMS.
對他們的問題進行透視。
THEY ARE HYPER NATIVISTS THAT ARE REACT TO WHAT THEY PERCEIVE
他們是對他們所認為的事情有反應的超級本地人。
AS GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION IN THEIR LIVES ANDETH QUITE
作為政府對他們生活的干預,以及對他們生活的影響。
DISTURBING AND I THINK THE F.B.I. HAS THEIR HANDS FULL IN
令人不安,我想FBI已經忙得不可開交了。
TERMS OF DEALING WITH THEM.
與它們打交道的條件:
>> Stephen: THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WILL SOMETIMES
>> 史蒂芬: 美國總統有時會...
RE-TWEET THESE NATIVIST ORGANIZATIONS OR PRAISE THEM.
轉發這些土著人組織的微博或讚美它們。
IS THAT ITSELF A THREAT TO OUR SECURITY IS THIS.
這本身就是對我們安全的威脅嗎?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> 當然。
WHAT A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAYS MATTERS AND IT
美國總統說的話很重要,也很重要。
RESONATES FAR AND WIDE, AND DONALD TRUMP'S FAILURE TO
引起廣泛反響,唐納德-特朗普未能
DENOUNCE THESE GROUPS IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS HAS JUST FUELED
毫不含糊地否定這些集團,只是助長了這些集團的氣焰。
THEIR RISE.
他們的崛起。
OF COURSE, YOU SEE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN
當然,你會發現這裡發生的事情和我們這裡有相似之處。
THIS COUNTRY AND WHAT HAPPENED IN TERMS OF THE RISE OF NAZIISM
這個國家和納粹主義的興起發生了什麼?
IN GERMANY IN WORLD WAR II, THE STRENGTHENING OF THE ARYAN
第二次世界大戰中的德國,亞利安人的加強。
NATION AND TRYING TO AGAIN RID SOCIETY OF THESE INFLUENCES.
國家,並試圖再次擺脫社會的這些影響。
SO THESE ARE GROUPS THAT HAVE NO SENSE OF SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
所以,這些都是沒有社會責任感的群體。
OR NO SENSE OF ALLEGIANCE TO ANYBODY OTHER THAN THEMSELVES,
或對自己以外的任何人都沒有任何意義上的認同感。
AND THE ONE WHO ARE ALIGNED WITH THEIR VIEWS, INCLUDING DONALD
和那些與他們的觀點一致的人,包括唐納德
TRUMP.
特朗普:
>> Stephen: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY - FAIRLY BROAD QUESTION -- BUT
>> 斯蒂芬:你會說什麼 -- -- 很寬泛的問題 -- -- 但是。
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ARE THE THREATS TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY
你認為對我們國家安全的威脅是什麼?
ON THE NEAR TERM, MIDDLE TERM AND FAR TERM?
關於近期、中期和遠期?
>> I THINK THE NEAR TERM IS NO QUESTION THAT THE NEXT 100 DAYS
>> 我認為,近階段毫無疑問的是,未來100天
IS VERY UNSETTLED PERIOD AND A FRAUGHT PERIOD FOR THE UNITED
是一個非常不穩定的時期,也是聯合國的困難時期。
STATES.
國家:
WHAT DONALD TRUMP MIGHT DO IN TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION AND
唐納德-特朗普可能會做的事情,試圖竊取選舉和。
HOW HE EXERCISES THE POWERS OF THE PRESIDENCY BEFORE AND AFTER
他在前後如何行使總統的權力
THE ELECTION, WHEN HE'S A LAME DUCK.
選舉,當他是一個跛腳鴨。
I'M QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HE MIGHT RESORT TO AND DO DURING
我很擔心他在這期間會採取什麼手段和行動
THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
那段時間。
>> Stephen: LIKE WHEN HE'S SAYING IN THE DEBATES, STAND
>> 史蒂芬:就像他在辯論中說的那樣,站起來。
BACK AND STAND BY.
後退並站在旁邊。
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> 當然。
AND HIS REFUSAL TO ACKNOWLEDGET THAT HE'S GOING TO ACCEPT THE
和他拒絕承認他將接受的。
RESULTS OF THE ELECTION.
選舉結果:
I THINK THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS TIME AND IT'S CLEAR THAT DONALD
我認為這是一個非常危險的時代,很明顯,唐納德。
TRUMP WILL RESORT TO ANY TACTIC.
特朗普會採取任何策略。
I THINK HE HAS DEMONSTRATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN HE HAS NO RESPECT
我想他已經一次又一次地證明了他不尊重人。
FOR THE RULE OF LAW AND PRINCIPLES IN THIS COUNTRY AND
的法律規則和原則,並在此基礎上,對其進行修改。
THE FACT THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE BOWING TO HIS EVERY WHIM
共和黨人對他俯首稱臣的事實。
MAKES ME VERY CONCERNED.
讓我非常擔心。
IN THE MEANTIME, JOE BIDEN WILL HAVE HIS HANDS FULL WHEN HE'S
在這段時間裡,喬-比登到時候會忙得不可開交。
TAKING OVER IN JANUARY IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES WE
1月接任,以應對我們面臨的挑戰。
FACE, COVID, THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, SOCIAL JUSTICE, THE
FACE, COVID, THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, SOCIAL JUSTICE, THE FACE.
TENSIONS IN THIS COUNTRY, THE POLARIZATION TAKEN PLACE UNDER
在這個國家的緊張局勢下所採取的極化措施。
DONALD TRUMP.
唐納德・特朗普:
SO I THINK 2021 WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR JOE BIDEN ON THE
所以,我認為2021年將是喬-比登的挑戰。
DOMESTIC AS WELL AS THE INTERNATIONAL FRONT.
國內和國際前線。
HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO REPAIR ALLIANCES AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT
他將不得不修復聯盟和合作夥伴關係,該
HELPED TO STRENGTHEN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY OVER THE LAST
在過去的時間裡,幫助加強了我們的國家安全。
75 YEARS.
75年。
HE'S ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO SEND AN UNMISTAKABLE SIGNAL TO
他還得發出一個不穩定的信號,以
ADVERSARIES THAT TRUMP IS GONE SO VLADIMIR PUTIN AND KIM JONG
特朗普走了,所以弗拉基米爾-普京和金正日的不利因素。
UN AND OTHERS REALLY HAVE TO TAKE NOTE THAT JOE BIDEN IS A
聯合國和其他人真的要注意到,喬-比登是一個。
DIFFERENT PRESIDENT THAN DONALD TRUMP.
與唐納德-特朗普不同的總統。
OVER THE LONGER TERM, CLIMATE CHANGE.
從長期來看,氣候變化。
YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT ON OUR WEATHER AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO,
你知道,對我們的天氣的影響,以及如何會。
YOU KNOW, LEAD TO THE RISE OF THE OCEANS AND THE ENCROACHMENT
你知道的,導致海洋的上升和侵佔
ON COASTAL COMMUNITIES AND MIGRATION FLOWS AND HOW URBAN
沿海社區和移民流動以及城市如何發展的問題。
CENTERS WILL BE OVERWHELMED, THE CYBER REALM, DIGITAL DOMAIN,
中心將被overwhelmed,CYBER REALM,數字領域。
GENETIC ENGINEERING.
GENETIC ENGINEERING。
THERE WERE SO MANY LONGER-TERM ISSUES THAT WHILE WE WERE SO
有很多長期問題,當我們... ...
OBSESSED WITH THESE POLITICAL PROBLEMS AT HOME, WE'RE NOT
沉迷於國內的這些政治問題,我們不... ...
TAKING THE TIME AND WE'RE NOT DEDICATING THE EFFORT AND THE
需要時間,我們不奉獻的努力和
RESOURCES TO ADDRESS WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE THE
解決我認為將是最重要的問題的資源。
CHALLENGES FOR THE NEXT GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS.
下一代美國人的挑戰。
>> Stephen: BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE ALL FIGHTING EACH OTHER
>> Stephen:因為當我們都在互相爭鬥的時候
HERE, WE'RE NOT BEING AWARE OF THE WAVE THAT'S COMING OVER THE
在這裡,我們沒有意識到的浪潮,這是在過去的。
HORIZON OF THESE OTHER CHALLENGES.
這些其他挑戰的範圍:
>> YEAH, WE'RE IGNORING IT AND WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT'S NECESSARY
>> 是的,我們忽略了它,我們沒有做什麼必要的。
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE CLIMATE CHANGE
因為我們不可能扭轉氣候變化的趨勢
OVERNIGHT.
過夜。
THIS IS A CONCERTED EFFORT OVER THE LONG TERM THAT THE UNITED
這是聯合國長期以來的一項協調努力。
STATES HAS TO BE THE LEADER WE ONCE WERE AND I THINK WE SOON BE
國家必須成為我們曾經的領袖,我想我們很快就會成為領袖。
AFTER JOE BIDEN BECOMES PRESENT.
在喬-比登出席之後。
>> Stephen: BACK WITH MORE OF THE AUTHOR OF "UNDAUNTED,"
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C.I.A. DIRECTOR JOHN BRENNAN.
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