General manager Daryl Murray.

總經理Daryl Murray。

He's out as his coach, Mike D'Antoni, but during his weekly appearance on CNBC's power lunch for Tita said that Houston's outlook hasn't changed.

他作為他的教練，邁克-德安東尼已經出局了，但在他每週出席CNBC的權力午餐時，蒂塔說，休斯頓的前景並沒有改變。

They are still contending, Stephen A.

他們還在爭奪，斯蒂芬-A。

Do you agree with for TD's plan to keep the superstars intact?

你是否同意TD保留超級明星的計劃？

No, I do not.

不，我沒有。

Andi, I'm not saying that definitively, like meaning you have to trade him.

安迪，我不是說明確的，比如說你必須交易他。

I'm saying you can't close the door on that possibility.

我是說你不能把這種可能性關上。

Um, you know, when you look at a guy like Russell, Westbrook has been around for a long time.

嗯，你知道，當你看到像拉塞爾這樣的人，威斯布魯克已經存在了很長一段時間。

You look at James Harden had been around while, of course, you keep one of them.

你看詹姆斯-哈登一直在身邊，當然，你留一個人。

But the other may have may bring you incredible assets in return for their services.

但對方可能有可能為你帶來不可思議的資產，以回報他們的服務。

And I, of course, I'm gonna be a supporter of keeping James Harden at all.

而我，當然，我也會是一個支持者，完全可以留下詹姆斯-哈登。

Of course, the brother just finished averaging 34.

當然，弟弟剛剛完成了平均34歲的成績。

He averaged 30 60 year before.

他前年平均30歲60歲。

He's a league MVP.

他是聯盟的MVP。

He's been a top two candidate for MVP honors.

他一直是MVP榮譽的前兩名候選人。

Attn.

Attn.

Least three separate occasions.

至少有三個單獨的場合。

This brother is something special Offensively.

這位兄弟在進攻上很特別。

He is a magician with that basketball now the flip side to it is that you've got to get the right coach up in there.

他是一個魔術師，他的籃球現在反過來說就是，你得找一個合適的教練上去。

You got to get a coach up in there that's gonna preach.

你得找一個教練在那裡會講道。

Movement is gonna make sure they make adjustments at halftime.

運動會確保他們在中場休息時做出調整。

Is going to prioritize defense a little bit more than Mike D'Antoni did, even though Elston Turner, I thought, did a really good job and then the postseason.

是會比邁克-德安東尼更優先考慮防守一點，即使埃爾斯頓-特納，我認為，做得非常好，然後季後賽。

Houston had the top offensive top defense in the bubble at one point before they went up against the Lakers.

休斯敦在對陣湖人之前，一度擁有泡影中的頂級進攻頂級防守。

I mean, considering those eight regular season games in the first round of the playoffs, they had the best defense in the bubble, so we can't ignore that.

我的意思是，考慮到季後賽首輪的那八場常規賽，他們的防守是保麗龍中最好的，所以我們不能忽視這一點。

But in the end, when you consider the fact that what you have tried isn't working, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson coming back and go to State Lakers ain't going anywhere.

但最終，當你考慮到你所嘗試的並不奏效，斯蒂芬-庫裡和克雷-湯普森回來後，去州湖人是不會去的。

Kawhi Leonard and Paul George now have Ty Lue as their coach, so there's a new voice in the Clipper land.

卡維-萊昂納德和保羅-喬治現在有泰-盧擔任他們的教練，所以快船隊的土地上有了新的聲音。

Okay, we saw what Utah and Denver could do, etcetera.

好吧，我們看到了猶他和丹佛能做什麼，等等。

The West is going to be loaded.

西部要裝。

What Houston has is not enough.

休斯頓所擁有的還不夠。

This is not enough to win a championship this year.

這還不夠今年奪冠的條件。

How about next year?

明年呢？

It's not gonna be enough.

這是不夠的。

That's what I'm saying.

這就是我要說的。

It wasn't enough.

這還不夠。

This year is not gonna be enough next year until my fatigue A does not need to be saying we ain't changing.

今年不夠明年再來，直到我的疲勞A不需要在說我們不改變。

Yes, you are because the man wants to win.

是的，你是因為他想贏。

You would need to change their two levels to this number one.

你需要把他們的兩個級別改成這個數字。

We agree about that part.

我們同意這部分。

I don't have to rehash, hire a GM first and then let them figure it out right now.

我不需要複述，先請一個總經理，然後讓他們現在就想辦法。

Here, the two levels.

在此，兩級。

If you are Kobe Bryant or you are Derek Jeter, forget football.

如果你是科比-布萊恩特，或者你是德里克-杰特，請忘記足球。

It's a different sport.

這是一項不同的運動。

You know.

你知道的

Joe Montana, Tom Brady.

喬-蒙大拿，湯姆-布雷迪。

At the end, they were on new kids.

最後，他們在新的孩子。

Let's let's take, uh, if you're if you're Kobe Bryant or Derek Jeter and you have five chips with that organization.

讓我們來看看，呃，如果你是... ...如果你是科比-布萊恩特或德里克-杰特... ...你有五個籌碼與該組織。

Guess what?

你猜怎麼著？

Derek Jeter, in his last season, plays shortstop, and it costs the Yankees a trip to the postseason because his defense wasn't good enough anymore.

德里克-杰特，在他的最後一個賽季，打游擊手，這讓洋基隊失去了一次季後賽之旅，因為他的防守不夠好了。

He didn't hit much.

他沒怎麼打。

Kobe Bryant got that last contract 25 year.

科比-布萊恩特得到的最後一份合同25年。

Anyone good enough anymore and the Lakers were terrible, But fans of that team could say, uh, Derek Jeter.

任何人都足夠優秀了，湖人隊也很糟糕，但那支球隊的球迷可以說，呃，德里克-杰特。

That dude's never putting on another uniform.

這傢伙再也不會穿上別的制服了。

Kobe Bryant.

科比-布萊恩特。

There'd be there'd be like a riot.

會有... ...會有像暴動。

They're, you know, they're there.

他們，你知道，他們在那裡。

Be a mutiny there.

要在那裡譁變。

You cannot let Kobe Bryant Derek Jeter put on a five time champions for those towns and those franchises, they can't leave.

你不能讓科比-布萊恩特-德里克-杰特為那些小鎮和那些加盟商上演五次冠軍，他們不能離開。

That's not James Harden and Russell Westbrook in Houston.

這不是詹姆斯-哈登和拉塞爾-威斯布魯克在休斯頓。

I'm sorry they didn't come up with those teams.

我很遺憾他們沒有想到這些團隊。

They haven't won any championships with those with that team.

他們和那支球隊的那些人沒有贏得任何冠軍。

Now here's where it gets tricky.

現在，這裡是它變得棘手的地方。

Here's the second level if you wait until the guy isn't that valuable anymore.

這是第二關，如果你等到這傢伙沒那麼值錢了。

The Knicks did this with Patrick Ewing, and then you trade him.

尼克斯隊對帕特里克-尤因就是這樣做的，然後你就把他交易了。

You know what?

你知道嗎？

You wind up with cat problems.

你的風與貓的問題。

You trade him for guys who aren't that good.

你用他去換那些沒那麼好的人。

And and the Knicks were buried with cat problems, trading Patrick because they waited till he didn't have value.

而和尼克斯埋下陰謀，交易帕特里克是因為他們等到他沒有價值。

And they if you planned on moving on, you should have traded him when he still had some value.

而且他們如果你打算繼續前進，你應該在他還有一些價值的時候把他交易出去。

Shaquille O'Neal.

Shaquille O'Neal.

Here's the other part.

這是另一部分。

Shaquille O Neal still had value when the Lakers traded him.

湖人隊交易沙奎爾-奧尼爾的時候，他還有價值。

They didn't get back.

他們沒有回來。

Equal value in the Lakers weren't good enough anymore until they made several years later a trade for Pau Gasol.

等價值在湖人已經不夠好了，直到幾年後他們做了一筆交易，換來了波-加索爾。

So the issue is it's hard to replace a guy like James Harden, usually in the MBA.

所以，問題是很難取代詹姆斯-哈登這樣的人，通常在MBA。

That history the league is whoever gets the best player in the deal wins the deal.

那歷史上聯盟是誰在交易中得到最好的球員，誰就能贏得交易。

Go find a better player than James Harden.

去找一個比詹姆斯-哈登更好的球員。

If you want to trade him, you can't just treat him for who are who.

如果你想交易他，你不能只把他當做誰是誰。

Are they going to get what they dio?

他們會得到他們想要的東西嗎？

I understand that they can't win with this new clueless, but it's not like superstars of their level are just growing on trees.

我明白他們這個新的沒辦法贏，但他們這種級別的超級巨星又不是長在樹上的。

That's why if they wind up keeping Harden and treating Westbrook, I wouldn't be surprised.

這就是為什麼如果他們最終留住哈登，治療威斯布魯克，我不會感到驚訝。

Well, first of all, that's the only thing you don't trade.

好吧，首先，這是你唯一不交易的東西。

James Harden.

詹姆斯-哈登。

Well, you don't trade James unless there is no Unless, Well, here's the you don't move.

好吧，你不交易詹姆斯，除非沒有除非，好吧，這裡的你不動。

James Harden.

詹姆斯-哈登。

Well, let's say Yannis is available.

好吧，讓我們說Yannis是可用的。

Okay?

好嗎？

You know, you trading James Harden?

你知道，你要交易詹姆斯-哈登？

No really know because I am.

沒有真的知道，因為我是。

No.

不知道

Let me tell you something right now.

讓我現在告訴你一些事情。

Why?

為什麼？

So it's so Milwaukee could come to Houston.

所以密爾沃基可以來休斯頓了。

I mean, the bottom line is this.

我的意思是，底線是這樣的。

If you're talking about finding a way to pay you honest with James Harden, you don't let go in today's MBA back in the day.

如果你說要想辦法給你老老實實地付給詹姆斯-哈登，在今天的MBA中，你不要放任自流，回到當年。

That would be different in today's MBA, when you have a magician on the offensive.

那在今天的MBA就不一樣了，你有一個魔術師在進攻。

And like James Harden, James Harden has one problem offensively and one problem on Lee.

而和詹姆斯-哈登一樣，詹姆斯-哈登在進攻上有一個問題，在李的身上也有一個問題。

He needs to many days or he seems to need too many damn dribbles to do what he does.

他需要很多天，或者他似乎需要太多的該死的運球來做他的工作。

Outside of that, there is nothing.

在這之外，什麼都沒有。

I understand that.

我明白這一點。

But how many trips is a lot of guys?

但是，多少次旅行是很多人？

How many you can't go by?

你有多少人不能通過？

He has gone, has ever had, like hardens had.

他已經走了，曾經有過，就像硬生生的有過。

Excuse me.

對不起，請原諒

Well, think about this first when you talk about heart.

好了，說到心坎裡，先想一想。

And when he was in Oklahoma City was very young.

而當他在俄克拉荷馬城的時候還很年輕。

He was a baby.

他是個嬰兒。

Then he goes to Houston.

然後他去了休斯頓。

What do you talk about?

你在說什麼？

Dwight Howard.

德懷特-霍華德

How do you feel about that?

你怎麼看？

Chris Paul and Russell West?

克里斯-保羅和拉塞爾-韋斯特？

Well, you the one that said that Chris Paul didn't get injured, they would have won the chip.

你就是那個說克里斯・保羅沒有受傷 他們就會贏得籌碼的人吧

That was you.

那是你。

You said happened.

你說發生。

Thio, you say Okay, so you said that.

Thio，你說好吧，所以你說。

So the point is, Is that again?

所以重點是，又是這樣嗎？

There's a lot that they might win the chip in Milwaukee.

他們有很多可能在密爾沃基贏得籌碼。

Listen, all I'm telling you is this I'm not trading James Harden.

聽著，我要告訴你的是... ...我不會交易詹姆斯-哈登。

I'm holding onto him for dear life because the brothers let me say this.

我之所以抓著他不放，是因為兄弟們讓我這麼說。

He's let me say this.

他讓我這樣說。

We agree about this.

我們同意這一點。

It would be very when you the best player in the deal, that's the team that wins the deal.

這將是非常當你在交易中最好的球員，那是贏得交易的球隊。

Whoever gets the best player in NBA history, right?

誰就能得到NBA歷史上最好的球員，對吧？

That's usually what happens very hard to find equal value for James Harden in the deal.

這通常是很難在交易中找到同等價值的詹姆斯-哈登的情況。

I would never say never, period.

我永遠不會說永遠，就這樣。

I would sit there and say, You've got to get the right coach And it has to be a coach that could get Russell Westbrook's personality to modify, just to touch.

我會說："你必須找到合適的教練，而且必須是一個能讓拉塞爾-威斯布魯克改變個性的教練，只是為了觸動。

Or you gotta be willing to move him to get some other parts to pay it with James Harden.

或者你得願意把他調走，讓其他部分和詹姆斯-哈登一起支付。

You are not moving hard and I'm not.

你不用力，我也不用力。

But he's an icon.

但他是一個偶像。

He stays put because of his value.

他留在原地是因為他的價值。

There's a difference.

這是有區別的。

Harden the heart and is an icon to me.

淬鍊心靈，是我的偶像。

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