How are you?

你好嗎？

-You look great. -You look really good too.

-你看起來很棒-你看起來也很不錯

I like this casual thing you have going.

我喜歡你的這種休閒方式

-Oh, thank you.

-哦，謝謝你

-You're welcome.

-不客氣

-I always love seeing you and we always talk about New York City,

-我總是喜歡見到你，我們總是談論紐約市。

because I know you're back in the city.

因為我知道你回到了城市。

-Yeah. -And I want to say

-是的 我想說的是

I heard this before, right before the interview,

我以前聽過這句話，就在採訪之前。

but I didn't know that you had COVID at one point.

但我不知道你曾經有COVID。

-Well, not everybody did.

-不是每個人都是這樣的

But I figure, you know,

但我想，你知道的。

why not talk about it with you on television?

為什麼不在電視上跟你說呢？

-Wow. -Yeah.

-哇哦-是啊

We had it. Todd and I both had it early on.

我們都有託德和我很早就有了。

It was like middle of March.

就像三月中旬一樣。

And we didn't know what -- I'm sorry.

我們不知道什麼... 對不起。

I'm putting the dog down.

我把狗放下來。

We didn't know what it was.

我們不知道那是什麼。

We thought we had colds.

我們以為自己感冒了。

And, then, it seemed less likely, and then, finally,

然後，似乎不太可能，然後，終於。

we lost our sense of smell and taste and we were like --

我們失去了我們的嗅覺和味覺，我們就像 -

-You did? -Yeah. Utterly.

-你有嗎？-是的是的.

And it defied the descriptions for me.

而它對我來說，不符合描述。

I didn't realize how completely taste and smell could be gone.

我不知道味道和氣味可以完全消失。

And when you're in quarantine, and there is really nothing

而當你在隔離區，並沒有真正的東西

to do but eat, oh, my God.

除了吃，哦，我的上帝。

That was brutal.

太殘忍了

-So, you didn't feel like eating anything

-所以，你不喜歡吃任何東西。

or just like everything was just gross?

或只是喜歡一切都只是毛？

-Oh, no, I ate everything, but I just didn't taste it.

-哦，不，我什麼都吃了，但我只是沒有嚐到味道。

You know?

你知道嗎？

It was the definition of wasted calories.

這就是浪費卡路里的定義。

-Right, yeah.

-對，是的

I'm so happy that you guys are back to being healthy.

我很高興你們能恢復健康。

-Yeah, me too.

-是的，我也是

-How did you stay busy once you felt better?

-你感覺好了之後是如何保持忙碌的？

-Well, I tried other creative outlets

-好吧，我試過其他的創意管道

because acting obviously wasn't happening,

因為演戲顯然沒有發生。

and I took a painting class for a while.

和我上了一段時間的繪畫課。

I took a creative writing class for a while.

我上過一段時間的創意寫作課。

And everything petered out.

一切都平息了。

I don't know if the truth is, "Well, you're just an actor,

我不知道真相是不是："嗯，你只是個演員。

and that's what you do and that's what you should do,"

這就是你要做的，也是你應該做的"。

or if it's just I really don't have the see-through

還是說我真的沒有透視眼？

stick-to-it-ness for anything.

對任何事情都要堅持到底。

It's sort of embarrassing, but, you know, here I am.

這有點尷尬，但是，你知道，我在這裡。

-Everyone went through phases.

-每個人都經歷過階段。

I know you went through a blond phase in quarantine.

我知道你在隔離區經歷了一個金髮階段。

Look at this. Wow. -I did.

看看這個。哇哦-我有

-I like it. What made you want to bleach your hair?

-我喜歡是什麼讓你想漂白你的頭髮？

-Well, I had dealt with bleached products --

-我曾經處理過漂白的產品 --

Who says bleached products?

誰說漂白產品？

I had bleached my hair, like a bottle job and stuff

我把我的頭髮漂白了，就像一個瓶子的工作和東西。

off and on in my 20s,

在我20多歲的時候，斷斷續續。

and it had been so long since I'd done it,

而且我已經很久沒有這麼做了。

for obvious reasons -- work and the show --

由於顯而易見的原因 -- 工作和演出 --

and I kept thinking, "I'm going to do it now

我一直在想，"我現在就去做"。

that the show is over, but I'm going to do it right.

節目已經結束了，但我要做對。

I'm going to have somebody do it where it looks

我要找人做的地方，它看起來。

natural and whatever."

自然而然什麼的。"

And then quarantine hit,

然後檢疫就來了。

and I thought, "Well, I guess I'm not doing it."

我想，"好吧，我想我不做了。"

And then about six weeks in and we'd been sick,

然後大約六週後，我們就生病了。

I was like, "Screw it. Let's buy some crap."

我當時想，"螺絲釘。讓我們買一些廢話。"

And Todd did it.

託德做到了

-Yeah. -It took about six hours.

-花了6個小時。

It burned my scalp.

燙傷了我的頭皮。

But you know what?

但你知道嗎？

Beauty is pain.

美麗就是痛苦。

Or a mediocre look.

還是一副平平淡淡的樣子。

-There is that one minute, right, where you go,

-有那麼一分鐘，就在你去的地方。

"Am I going to fry all my hair off?

"我是不是要把頭髮都炸掉？

What's happening?" -Yes.

發生什麼事了？"-是的

-"Let's wash it out because it's not working.

-"我們把它洗掉吧，因為它沒有用。

Something's happening."

有事發生了。"

-You know this feeling very well, obviously.

-你很清楚這種感覺，很明顯。

-Unfortunately, I think we have it in the control room.

-不幸的是，我想它在控制室裡。

That's me. -Oh, Jimmy, yes!

那是我-哦，吉米，是的！

Wait. What is this for?

等等，這是做什麼用的？這是做什麼用的？

-This was for a movie called "Factory Girl."

-這是為一部叫 "工廠女孩 "的電影準備的。

-I remember seeing you like this. Absolutely right.

-我記得我見過你這個樣子完全正確

-I was in the neighborhood. It was so --

-我就在附近它是如此 --

And at the time, I thought --

而當時，我以為...

You can take it off the screen now. It's just terrible.

你可以把它從螢幕上拿下來了。它只是可怕的。

They kind of left it up a little bit too long there.

他們的時間有點長了

-Hold it. Hold it.

-握住它等一下，等一下

-Someone up there is like, "Yeah, I'll get him."

-有人在上面說，"好，我去抓他"

I thought like, "Oh, I can do the blo--"

我想，"哦，我可以做BLO --"

My character had blond hair.

我的角色是金髮。

I go, "I can do that."

我走了，"我可以做到這一點。"

And it just came out completely orange and it was --

它只是出來完全橙色和它是 -

-I don't think it looks that bad.

-我不認為它看起來很糟糕。

I say it because it doesn't look that different from mine.

我之所以這麼說，是因為它看起來和我的沒有什麼不同。

So, looks pretty good.

所以，看起來很不錯。

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

-I like the way it is now.

-我喜歡它現在的樣子

It kind of looks much more professional.

這算是看起來專業多了。

-Yeah, they "fixed" it. -Ah.

-是的，他們 "修復 "了它。-是的，他們 "修理 "了它

-I now have a wonderful colorist here in New York,

-我現在在紐約有一位出色的調色師。

which I never needed before,

這是我以前從來沒有需要的。

but I threw on a mask and was like, "I need help.

但我戴上面具，就像 "我需要幫助"。

Please." Oh, God.

求你了。"哦，上帝啊

-I remember when we were talking when you were on the show

-我記得當我們在節目中交談時，你是在節目中

and we showed a photo of you

我們給你看了一張照片

when you first got to New York City,

當你剛到紐約的時候

and I think you were blond then as well.

我想你那時也是金髮碧眼的。

Yeah. That's it. -See? I told you.

是的，就是這樣。就是這樣。-看到了嗎？看到了嗎？

My 20s were a time of bleached hair and sleeping on couches.

我20多歲的時候，頭髮漂白，睡在沙發上。

Yes, that was my first trip to New York.

是的，那是我第一次去紐約。

-Look at you, Times Square. -That is Times Square, isn't it?

-看看你，時代廣場-這就是時代廣場，不是嗎？

Oh, my God. Yeah.

哦，我的上帝。是的，我的天

-I know, I know. I'm sorry.

-我知道，我知道。我知道，我知道。

Take that photo off, too. Please.

把那張照片也拿掉。求你了

Making us reminisce too much.

讓我們回憶太多。

My gosh.

我的天啊

I haven't seen you since "The Big Bang Theory" ended.

自從 "大爆炸理論 "結束後，我就沒見過你了。

-Yeah. -It was the first time for you,

-是的 這是你的第一次。

probably, in a long time that you weren't doing it.

可能，在很長一段時間內，你都沒有做。

Was it weird?

是不是很奇怪？

-Yeah, it was weird.

-是的，很奇怪

It's been really hard to decide what is "Big Bang" being gone

"大爆炸 "正在消失，真的很難決定什麼是 "大爆炸"？

and what's being now stuck in this weird time of quarantine,

以及現在被卡在這個奇怪的隔離時間裡的東西。

like, the whole world is in this weird time.

像，整個世界都在這個奇怪的時間。

But, yeah, the weirdest part for me was the way --

但是，是的，最奇怪的部分 對我來說是方式 -

and I'm sorry this sounds morbid --

我很抱歉，這聽起來病態 -

but it reminds me of when someone dies or a pet passes

但它讓我想起了當一個人死了 或者一個寵物去世的時候

and it feels so monumental in the moment and you think,

它感覺如此不朽 在這一刻，你想，

"Well, this will never end."

"嗯，這事永遠不會結束。"

And then one day you kind of look up

然後有一天你會發現

and you're like, "Oh, nine months have gone by.

你會說："哦，九個月過去了。

Okay. I guess life carries on."

好吧，我想生活還要繼續。"

I mean, not that it wasn't -- it wasn't --

我的意思是，不是說它不是... ... 它不是... ...

I mean, it was bittersweet when it ended, but it was fine.

我的意思是，它是苦樂參半，當它結束，但它是罰款。

-Yeah.

-是的

A lot of people were talking on the Internet

很多人都在網上討論

of how they think Sheldon would handle the pandemic.

他們認為Sheldon會如何處理這場大流行病。

What do you think he'd be doing?

你覺得他會做什麼？

-He was built for this.

-他就是為此而生的

I mean, this is the moment he was waiting for.

我的意思是，這是他在等待的時刻。

I was saying earlier we had an entire episode,

我剛才說我們有一整集。

which I didn't think about until recently,

我直到最近才想起來。

where he did like a Shell-bot where he had a video screen

在那裡，他做了像一個Shell -機器人在那裡他有一個視頻螢幕。

on a remote control wheelie thing.

在一個遙控輪子的事情。

That was when people still needed

那時候人們還需要

to get together in groups.

以群聚。

And so he would just send that out and sit in his room.

所以他就會把這些東西送出去，坐在房間裡。

-Yeah, he didn't have to see humans, yeah.

-是的，他不需要看到人類，是的。

-Yeah. Don't touch me. Don't sneeze on me.

-是啊。是啊。 - 不要碰我。不要在我身上打噴嚏。

So I guess he'd be fine.

所以我想他會沒事的。

-You've been doing a lot of great things since then.

-從那以後，你做了很多偉大的事情。

You were nominated for an Emmy this year for "Hollywood."

你今年憑藉 "好萊塢 "獲得了艾美獎提名。

Congrats on that.

祝賀你

That was great, by the way.

順便說一句，這很好。

I loved "Hollywood." -Thank you.

我喜歡 "好萊塢"。-謝謝你

-How was the virtual Emmy experience?

-虛擬艾美體驗如何？

What was that like?

那是什麼樣子？

-So bizarre. -It's weird, right?

-太奇怪了-很奇怪，對吧？

-So, you didn't have to wear a tux,

-所以，你不必穿晚禮服。

but I had a tux, and I was like, "Why not?"

但我有一個晚禮服， 我想，"為什麼不呢？"

So, me and Todd put on our tuxes and got ready,

於是，我和託德穿上晚禮服，做好了準備。

and then we just walked to the living room.

然後我們就走到了客廳。

And it was like, this feels really odd.

它就像，這感覺真的很奇怪。

And then the whole thing,

然後整個事情。

I think the strangest part for me

我覺得最奇怪的是

was right before the category was announced that I was up for,

是就在類別宣佈之前，我是為。

they threw all the nominees into a virtual waiting room,

他們把所有的被提名人都扔進了虛擬的等候室。

where they were like you and I are right now on Zoom,

他們在哪裡就像你我現在在Zoom上一樣。

and we could all kind of chat, which I was like,

我們都可以那種哈拉， 我很喜歡，

"I don't -- We're all up for the same award.

"我不--我們都在爭奪同一個獎項。

This is weird." But it ended up not being weird.

這很奇怪。"但最終還是沒有怪異。

It was actually very humanizing and sweet.

其實很人性化，很貼心。

Then Yahya won, and it was like somebody in the group had won.

然後雅雅贏了，就像集團裡有人贏了一樣。

It was kind of really happy.

那是一種真正的幸福。

But he finished his speech, and we all applaud,

但他講完了，我們都鼓掌。

and then suddenly, literally from the Emmys,

然後突然，從字面上的艾美獎。

to leave it, you just go "leave meeting" and then you were done.

要離開它，你只是去 "離開會議"，然後你就完成了。

I was like -- -What? Wow.

我當時想--什麼？什麼？

-It was on Zoom.

-是在Zoom上

It was so bizarre.

太詭異了。

-That is really -- -Kind of nice.

-這真的是... ...挺好的。

I could eat and drink during it. -Yeah, that's true.

我可以在期間吃喝。-是的，那是真的

At commercial break, you could actually walk

在廣告時間，你可以真正走

around your house and do whatever.

在你的房子周圍，做任何事情。

-Yeah. -I think it's kind of fun, too,

-是啊 我覺得這也挺好玩的。

having a conversation with your fellow actors

與你的演員朋友對話

who you're "up against."

你是誰的 "對手"。

-Well, it really gave the lie to --

-好吧，它真的給了謊言 --

We're not playing sports here.

我們不是在玩體育。

Nobody is beating anybody at anything.

沒有人在任何事情上打敗任何人。

We're all just doing our work,

我們都只是在做我們的工作。

and if you happen to get an award, great.

如果你碰巧得了獎，太好了。

But it's like, there's not really a competition here.

但這就像，這裡沒有真正的競爭。

It's just a nice moment of recognition.

這只是一個很好的認識時刻。

-We're actually all on the same team, weirdly.

-我們其實都在同一個團隊，很奇怪。

-That's exactly right.

-完全正確

-You're in another Ryan Murphy film,

-你在另一部瑞恩・墨菲的電影裡。

"The Boys in the Band."

"樂隊裡的男孩"

I want to talk about this.

我想談談這個。

We talked about the play last time you were on,

上次你上場的時候，我們說到了這部戲。

but you're getting great reviews for this.

但你得到了很大的評價。

Do you mind if you stick around? I'll talk about that?

介意你留下來嗎？我可以談談嗎？

-I need to go to the bathroom, but maybe. Okay, yes, I'll stay.

-我需要去洗手間，但也許。好吧，是的，我會留下來。

-More with Jim Parsons after the break, everybody.

-休息後再和吉姆・帕森斯談談，各位。