HOW ARE YOU HOLDING UP?

你是如何堅持的？

HOW ARE YOU DOING?

你怎麼樣？

IT IS SO NICE TO SEE YOU.

很高興見到你。

>> IT IS SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> 很高興見到你。

YOU KNOW IT WAS SO FUNNY LISTENING TO THE MUSIC AT THE

你知道嗎，聽著音樂，我覺得很有趣。

TOP THERE, I WAS LIKE AH, MUSIC.

在那裡，我是喜歡啊，音樂。

FORGOT ABOUT THAT JRS I KNOW, YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN PART ONE,

我知道，你應該看過第一部分。

WE PLAYED SOME HILARIOUS MUSIC.

我們播放了一些搞笑的音樂。

(LAUGHTER) HOW IS EVERYTHING, ARE YOU DOING

（笑）如何是一切，你是怎麼做的？

WELL?

好嗎？

YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE DOING WELL.

你看起來好像做得很好。

YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE COPING THROUGH THIS.

你看起來像你正在應付這個。

>> IT'S ALL LIGHTING.

>> 它的所有照明。

IT SMOKE AND MIRRORS BUT NO, I'M DOING OKAY, I'M MAKING

它的煙霧和鏡子，但不，我做的還好，我做的

ADJUSTMENTS LIKE EVERYBODY.

調整像每個人一樣。

I'M FINDING MY WAY.

我正在尋找我的方式。

WE ARE ACTUALLY BACK IN PRODUCTION WHICH IS CRAZY.

我們實際上已經回到生產中，這是瘋狂的。

WE'RE BACK AT WORK ON BLACK-ISH, SO FINDING MY WAY WITH THAT AS

我們又開始做黑衣人的工作了，所以找到了我的方法，因為... ...

WELL.

好吧。

>> James: WELL, WE'RE ALL FINDING OUR WAY WITH SO MANY

>> 詹姆斯。好了，我們都找到了我們的方式與如此之多的

THINGS.

事情。

I MEAN IT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED MOMENTS AGO THAT THE NBA PLAYERS

我的意思是說，前不久剛剛宣佈NBA球員們...

ARE MADE A DECISION TO BOYCOTT ALL PLAYOFF GAMES TODAY IN

決定抵制今天所有的季後賽。

PROTEST OF THE JACOB BLAKE SHOOTING WHICH IS, MY FIRST

抗議賈科布-布萊克槍擊事件，這是我的第一次。

THOUGHT IS IT IS AN INCREDIBLE USE OF THEIR PLATFORM.

思考是它是對其平臺的一種不可思議的利用。

WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD THIS NEWS.

當你聽到這個消息時，你的反應是什麼？

>> I REALLY HEARD IT LIT REALLILY AS I WAS COMING ON

>> 我真的聽到它真的很喜歡，因為我來了

HERE.

這裡。

AND I SAY BRAVO.

我要說的是 "好樣的

I THINK THIS IS A MOMENT TO TAKE A STAND AND THE TRUTH IS IT IS

我認為這是一個時刻採取立場，事實是，它是。

NOT JUST IN RESPONSE TO JACOB.

不僅僅是對賈科布的迴應。

>> James: ABSOLUTELY.

>> 詹姆斯。當然可以。

>> IT IS TO THE HISTORY OF THIS AND THE FACT THAT IT IS ENOUGH

>> 它是對歷史的這一點和事實，這是夠了。

AND I STHI IT IS ONE OF THE MOST AMERICAN THINGS YOU CAN DO, USE

我認為這是你能做的最美國式的事情之一，使用。

YOUR VOICE, TAKE A STAND AND I THINK ALL OF US NEED TO.

你的聲音，採取的立場，我認為大家都需要。

THIS IS A MOMENT FOR THE COLLECTIVE VOICE FOR OFF US

這是一個為美國而生的集合式聲音的時刻。

SAYING IT IS ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE HONEST

說這已經夠了，你知道的，我想我們必須要誠實。

AND CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT IS, AND NOT NORMALIZE IT AND THAT'S ONE

並明確它是什麼，而不是正常化，這是一個。

OF THE REASONS I THINK THE NBA USING THEIR VOICE IN THAT WAY,

的原因，我認為NBA使用他們的聲音的方式。

LIKE YES, BRAVO, WE MUST CONTINUE TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE

喜歡是的，BRAVO，我們必須繼續這樣做，因為我們。

REFUSE TO GO BACK AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE PURSUING JUSTICE AND

拒絕回去，我們必須繼續追求正義，並繼續努力。

SAFE SOCIETY AND A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN BE AT HOME IN YOUR BED

安全的社會和地方，你可以在家裡的床上。

AND YOU ARE SAFE, WHERE JAY SOB-- JACOB FROM WHAT I

你是安全的，在哪裡傑伊SOB - - JACOB從我的東西

UNDERSTAND PULLED OVER TO BREAK UP A FIGHT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.

明白了，拉過來打破了兩個人之間的戰鬥。

AND WHEN THE POLICE CAME IT WAS LIKE OH, GOOD, I CAN GET BACK IN

而當警察來了，它就像 哦，好，我可以回去了。

THE CAR WITH MY CHILDREN.

與我的孩子們的車。

SO EVERYTHING ABOUT IT AND THIS IDEA TO ME THAT EVEN IF SOMEONE

所以，關於它的一切和這個想法對我來說，即使有人...

IS A CRIMINAL, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO DIE.

是一個罪犯，你不應該死。

THAT IS NOT HOW THIS WORKS.

這不是如何工作。

>> James: THAT IS THE THING.

>> 詹姆斯。這就是問題所在。

I HAVE IN OVERWHELMING FEELING OF LIKE WELL, IF THIS HADN'T

我有在無比欣慰的感覺的喜歡好了，如果這沒有。

BEEN CAUGHT ON VIDEO, THIS IS A STATISTIC THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW

被拍到的視頻，這是一個靜態的，我甚至不知道。

ABOUT.

關於.

GEORGE FLOYD IS A STATISTIC THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.

喬治-弗洛伊德是個我都不知道的統計學家。

THERE ARE TOO MANY.

有太多的人。

THERE IS JUST TOO MANY.

有太多的人。

AND TALKING WITH MY FRIENDS AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT LIFE IS LIKE

和我的朋友們哈拉，談論生活是什麼樣子的。

IN THAT WAY OF INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE, THAT IT JUST

在這種方式的互動與警察，它只是... ...

SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TO BE REMOTELY SCARED OR FRIGHTENED

不應該有任何事情讓人感到恐懼或害怕。

OF.

的。

AND I HOPE ALL OF THESE THINGS BRING ABOUT CHANGE.

我希望所有這些事情都能帶來改變。

I HOPE IT ALL BRINGS ABOUT CHANGE.

我希望這一切能帶來改變。

I REALLY, REALLY DO.

我真的，真的很喜歡。

>> LET ME SAY THIS.

>> 讓我這樣說：

I THINK THAT THAT CHANGE REQUIRES ALL OF US.

我認為這種變化需要我們所有人。

>> YEAH.

>> 是的。

>> IT REQUIRES ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY TO USE OUR VOICES,

>> 需要我們所有人共同使用我們的聲音。

OUR HANDS, VOTING IS A PART OF IT, PROTESTING IS A PART OF IT.

我們的手，投票是它的一部分，抗議是它的一部分。

BEING CLEAR ABOUT THE SYSTEMIC PAINS THAT WE WANT TO OCCUR IS

明確我們希望發生的系統性痛苦是指

PART OF IT.

其中的一部分。

WE ALL HAVE A PART IN THIS.

我們都有一個部分在這。

AND IT CAN'T JUST BE ONE PERSON OR THE OTHER.

而且不能只針對一個人或另一個人。

JACOB IS YOUR BROTHER AS HE IS MY BROTHER.

雅各布是你的兄弟，就像他是我的兄弟一樣。

WE CANNOT, DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE OR BLACK HUMANITY, BLACK

WE CANNOT, DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE OR BLACK HUMANITY, BLACK

BODIES, BLACK LIFE TO BE BRUTALIZED AND VIOLENTLY

屍體、黑人生活被粗暴化和暴力化。

DISREGARDED IN THAT WAY.

以這種方式被忽視。

AND IF WE ALL DON'T STAND UP IT WON'T CHANGE.

如果我們都不站起來，它不會改變。

AND I THIS I THIS ELECTION IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART OF IT.

而我這次選舉是非常重要的一部分。

I THINK WE REALLY TALK ABOUT I THINK EVERY ELECTION IS URGENT

我想我們真的應該討論一下 我想每一次選舉都是很迫切的。

FOR THOSE THAT ARE UPSET AND MARGINALIZED AND THOSE THAT ARE

對於那些不安和被邊緣化的人，以及那些被邊緣化的人

THE MOST VULLER INABLE.

最惡毒的無力。

EVERY ONE IS, BECAUSE WE ARE STILL IN PURSUIT OF A SAFE AND

每一個人都是，因為我們仍然在尋求一個安全和

JUST SOCIETY.

只是社會。

BUT THIS ELECTION IS URGENT IN A WAY THAT THEY ALL ARE BUT ON TOP

但這次選舉的緊迫性在於他們都在上面。

OF THAT.

的。

THERE IS SOMETHING VERY REAL GOING ON LIGHT NOW AND WE MUST

現在有一些非常真實的事情正在發生，我們必須... ...

PARTICIPATE AND I THINK WE HAVE TO GET INFORMED SO THAT YOU KNOW

參與，我認為我們必須得到資訊，讓你知道。

HOW TO PARTICIPATE AND WHICH WAY YOU ABOUT USE YOUR HANDS BECAUSE

如何參與，以及你用哪種方式來使用你的手是因為

I THINK THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS CHANGES, IS IF, EACH OF US

我認為唯一的辦法，這改變，是如果，我們每個人都

UNDERSTAND THAT WE SHAPE OUR FUTURE.

明白我們塑造了我們的未來；

WE EACH DO THAT.

我們每個人都這樣做。

OUR FUTURE, WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER AND IF WE DON'T GET

我們的未來，我們會更加強大，如果我們不能得到。

INVOLVED, NONE OF IT CHANGES.

參與，都不會改變。

IF WE ARE NOT APPALLED BY WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHAT DOES THAT SAY

如果我們對發生的事情不反感，那又能說明什麼呢？

ABOUT WHO WE ARE.

關於我們是誰。

>> James: YEAH.

>> 詹姆斯。YEAH.

>> YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE THING THAT BLOWS MY MIND.

>> 你知道的，這就是讓我吃驚的地方。

LIKE IT'S APPALLING TRK IS HEARTBREAKING T IS INFURIATING,

LIKE IT'S APPALLING TRK IS HEARTBREAKING T IS INFURIATING,

IT IS EXHAUSTING.

這是令人氣憤的。

IT IS TERRIFYING.

它是可怕的。

ST ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

ST所有的這些東西。

SO HOW DO WE CONTINUE.

那麼我們該如何繼續。

AND I PERSONALLY AM LOOKING FOR THOSE THAT THIS IS THE WITHOUT,

我個人正在尋找那些這是沒有的。

THAT THEY DO.

他們這樣做。

THERE ARE ORGANIZERS, THEY HAVE THE LANGUAGE, THEY HAVE THE ACT

有組織者，他們有語言，他們有行動。

OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

我們要做的是什麼？

TO CHANGE WHERE WE ARE AT.

改變我們所處的位置。

AND SO I RECENTLY TOWARDS THOSE PEOPLE, THERE ARE PEOPLE, ANGELA

所以我最近對這些人，有一些人，安吉拉。

DAVIS HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS STUFF FOREVER.

DAVIS一直在談論這件事，直到現在。

THERE IS PATRICE COLORS, TAMIKA MALLORY, THERE IS ALL OF THESE

有派翠絲-科洛爾，塔米卡-馬洛裡，有這一切。

PEOPLE THAT REALLY, THAT I SAY LIKE TELL US WHERE TO GO AND HOW

人們，真的，我說喜歡告訴我們去哪裡，以及如何

TO DO BUT HONESTLY, RIGHT NOW VOTE, VOTE.

但誠實地，現在投票，投票。

>> James: ON THAT, LAST WEEK YOU GUIDED THE VIEWERS ON, WAS

>> 詹姆斯。上週，你引導觀眾，是嗎？

IT, I THINK NIGHT TWO OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION

我想這是全國民主大會的第二晚

AND-- YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB (APPLAUSE).

而且... ... 你做了一個很好的工作（掌聲）。

>> James: YOU REALLY DISP.

>> 詹姆斯。你真的很厲害。

TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE OF TAKING PART IN THE

跟我說說你的經歷吧，你參與的是什麼？

CONVENTION, WERE YOU NERVOUS?

會議，你緊張嗎？

>> I WAS NERVOUS.

>> 他是個神經病。

I WAS NERVOUS FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

我因為很多原因而變得神經質。

I MEAN I FELT LIKE IT WAS AN ORGANK AND NATURAL SORT OF STEP

我的意思是我覺得它是一個有機人和自然的那種步驟

FOR ME.

對我來說。

I'M VERY SOCIALLY ACTIVE, PHYSICALLY ENGAGED BUT I DON'T

我是一個非常活躍的社交活動，身體上的參與，但我不。

NORMALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE POLITICAL ARENA IN THAT WAY AND

通常以這種方式參與政治領域，並且：

IT IS A BIG CASE, PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING

這是個大案子，人們知道他們在說什麼。

ABOUT.

關於.

>> FOR SURE.

>> 當然。

>> YOU KNOW, AND I'M COMFORTABLE HOSTING.

>> 你知道，我是舒適的主機。

I LOVE HOSTING BUT I FELT LIKE IT WAS MY JOB TO BE THE CON

我喜歡主持，但我覺得這是我的工作是CON。

DUITY, THE FACILITATOR FOR A CONVERSATION ABOUT ENGAGEMENT

職責，關於參與問題的對話的促進者

AND PARTICIPATION.

和參與：

AND THAT IS ONE I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE HAVING.

這是我覺得很舒服的一個，有。

I TBELT HONORED TO BE IN THAT POSITION.

我很榮幸能在這個位置上。

I TOOK IT SERIOUSLY, WRITING MY WORDS WAS LIKE-- IT WAS LIKE

我認真對待，寫我的文字就像... ... 就像...

REALLY, I BE ONLY HAD 275 WORDS AND TRYING TO GET IN WHAT I

真的，我只有275個字，試圖得到什麼，我。

WANTED TO SAY.

想說。

>> James: IS THAT WHAT THEY TELL YOU, YOU HAVE ONLY GOT 275

>> 詹姆斯。他們是這樣告訴你的，你只有275個月的時間

WORDS.

詞：

>> ME, HI 275 WORDS BECAUSE MY NIGHT HAD THE ROLE CALL IN IT

>> 我，喜275字，因為我的夜晚有角色召喚在裡面。

AND THAT TAKES UP A VERY LARGE PORTION.

而這佔據了很大的一部分。

SO AT THE BEGINNING IN ORDER TO SET UP MY VOICE, WHO I AM,

所以，在開始的時候，為了建立我的聲音，我是誰。

WHATEVER.

什麼的。

I HAD 275 WORDS, I THINK I TALKED FOR 285.

我有275個字，我想我說了285個字。

SO TRYING TO GET THE WORDS RIGHT FELT SO IMPORTANT TO ME AND THEN

是以，試圖得到正確的文字感覺如此重要，對我來說，然後。

ALSO THE COVID SAFETY OF IT.

還有就是它的安全性。

BECAUSE I HADN'T BEEN OUT OF HOUSE QUITE YET SO GETTING ALL

因為我還沒有走出家門呢，所以得到所有的

OF THAT IN ORDER.

的，為了。

SO I WAS NERVOUS BUT ALSO MY ARMS WERE LINKED TO THE OTHER

所以我很緊張，但我的手臂也和其他手臂相連

WOMEN. AND I FELT LIKE WE STARTED A TEXT THREAD AND WE

婦女： 我覺得我們開始了一個文本主題，我們。

WOULD PAT EACH OTHER'S BAG.

會拍對方的包。

BUT THIS IS A MOMENT TO SHOW UP AND TAKE RISKY BEHAVIOR IN THE

但這是一個時刻顯示出來，並採取冒險的行為在。

DIRECTION OF BEING OF SERVICE TO THE LARGER GOOD.

為更大的利益服務的方向。

I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MOMENT FOR THAT.

我只是覺得這是一個時刻。

AND YOU KNOW DISCOMFORT RIGHT NOW SAY PLIF LIGE CONSIDERING

你知道舒適現在說PLIF LIGE考慮。

WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING.

發生了什麼事，很多人都經歷了什麼。

>> James: THAT IS A GREAT WAY, I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF IT,

>> 詹姆斯。這是一個偉大的方式， 我還沒有想到它。

THAT IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO DESCRIBE IT, THAT YES, IT IS

這是一個奇妙的方式來描述它，是的，它是。

UNCOMFORTABLE.

不舒服。

BUT THAT'S THE PRIVILEGE IN THIS.

但這是這裡面的特權。

YEAH.

是的。

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GENUINELY, THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE

>> 有一些人是真正的失業者，他們的失業率。

AND HOW IT IS DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTING PEOPLE OF COLOR AND

以及這種情況如何對有色人種產生不公平的影響？

WOMEN OF COLOR.

黑人婦女：

YOU KNOW, COVID AND THE REALITY OF WHAT THAT IS STILL LIKE FOR

你知道嗎，COVID和現實的什麼是仍然喜歡的

HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND FAMILIES AND THE PEOPLE, AND STAYING SAFE

衛生保健工作者、家庭和人民，以及保持安全。

FROM THAT.

從這。

THERE IS SO MUCH TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS MOMENT STVMENT

有這麼多發生在此刻的事情STVMENT。

ALL CONVERGING.

所有的CONVERGING。

IT IS CRAZY, AND LIKE THE GROUND BENEATH US IS MOVING BUT PERHAPS

它是瘋狂的，就像我們腳下的土地正在移動，但也許是。

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.

這正是我們需要的。

I THINK YOU TALK ABOUT SYSTEMIC RACISM AND THE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS

我想你說的是系統性的種族主義和系統性的問題。

IN THIS COUNTRY, AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO

在這個國家，我想你能做的最重要的事情是：

ASK ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE THERE AND CONTINUE PURSUING

問：承認他們在那裡，並繼續執行。

TOWARDS WHAT WE WANT THIS TO BE IN A COLLECTIVE WAY.

我們希望以收藏的方式來實現這個目標。

AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO BREAK DOWN THE SYSTEM THAN THE GROUND

如果你要破壞這個系統，那就得先破壞地面。

IS GOING TO FEEL UNSTABLE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO GET RID OF

是否會覺得不穩定，因為你需要擺脫。

SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE NOT WORKING, NOT FOR ALL OF US

這些事情中，有一些是行不通的，並不適合我們所有人。

AND NOT FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE.

而不是為最脆弱的人。

>> James: HOW GREAT HAVING TRACEE ELLIS ROSS ON THE SHOW

>> 詹姆斯：有TRACEE ELLIS ROSS在節目中多好啊

TONIGHT.

今晚。

OH MAN, ARE YOU THE PHONIC-- TONIC THAT WE ALL

哦，夥計，你是音... ... 音，我們都。

NEEDED TODAY.

今天需要。