whether flu vaccine is for them.

They want to know, what are the risks

and what are the benefits of getting the flu vaccine?

So I'm going to write up here the risks and benefits.

We're going to go through them kind of systematically,

and hopefully by the end, you'll have a nice little table

you can look at to take a look at kind of both sides,

side by side.

So let's start with some of the common issues.

What are some of the common things

we know are going to be a risk with the vaccine?

Well, when you walk in to get a vaccine,

you kind of know, if it's an injectable vaccine,

that the injection is not going to be pain-free.

I mean, most injections are going to hurt a little bit.

And so this, actually, for some people is not a big deal.

But for others, like me, it is a big deal.

You know, I always remember, people would tell me,

oh, it doesn't hurt that much.

And I would feel like they lied to me, because I always

felt like it did hurt.

And so I always got some arm soreness.

And it's not pleasant.

And that was one of the main reasons

I often kind of dragged my feet about getting the vaccine.

I thought, well, you know, do I really want to go in today

and get an injection in my arm?

And the one that causes arm soreness, the one that we

inject, is the dead vaccine.

I just want to make it very clear.

And we call it TIV.

That's the name of the vaccine.

So if you don't like getting an injection in the arm,

if you're like me, then you can also get the other vaccine.

There's this other vaccine out there.

And it's going to cause, potentially,

a little bit of a runny nose.

This is something that some people get.

I've actually always opted for this one

whenever it was available.

It's the live vaccine.

And it's not for everybody.

Some people are actually not going

to be able to get this one.

Now, in all the years I've had it,

I've actually never had a runny nose,

although I know a lot of people say that they've had that.

So these are the common issues, or the common risks

you take when you get a vaccine, right?

Now, another thing is that they often

are thought to cause the flu, but they actually

do not cause flu.

This is a huge misconception.

So I want to make it very clear.

Something that is dead-- a virus that is dead--

is not going to cause flu for sure.

So that one's kind of obvious.

But even this weak virus, this weakened virus

that's in the vaccine, is also not going to cause the flu.

It causes symptoms that sometimes are unpleasant,

like a runny nose, usually, but it doesn't cause the flu.

So what about the other side?

What are the benefits, the common benefits

that we know you can get from the vaccine?

What are the reasons we even take vaccine?

Well, you want to stay healthy.

You don't want to get flu.

And that's the whole point behind this.

And this is kind of how I qualify it to myself.

I think, well, you know, would I even

be OK with getting an injection in the arm?

Probably, yeah, because I know that in terms of pain,

that might hurt a little bit, but being

on your back in bed for three or four days, sometimes more,

because of the flu, that's awful.

And that's real suffering.

So I would definitely opt for getting a vaccine

over getting the flu.

Now, you know, we measure something

called vaccine efficacy-- kind of the ability of the vaccine

to prevent us from getting ill.

And the vaccine efficacy of this vaccine is not perfect.

That's something we have to remember, right?

It's not 100%.

It's actually, we think, somewhere between 60% and 70%.

So if I'm going to draw a little force field, a purple force

field, showing that I'm protected from the flu,

I've got to actually also show a couple

of little holes in my force field

to say that it's not a perfect bit of protection.

But it's pretty good, and that's the whole point, right?

So those are the common benefits that you can expect.

Now, let me draw a little bit more space up

here so I can continue with this risk/benefit analysis.

What are some uncommon things?

What are some uncommon, more rare

events that you may have heard of,

people sometimes talk about, with the vaccine.

And there are a couple.

There are two that kind of jump to mind I'll talk about.

One of them is called Guillain-Barre.

Kind of a tough word to even spell.

But it's basically a nerve disease

that causes problems-- actually, instead of disease, let

me write syndrome.

It's basically going to cause problems with muscles.

And so you get muscle weakness.

So Guillain-Barre Syndrome-- sometimes we call this GBS,

so you might see GBS-- is essentially a nerve disease.

And the reason we even talk about Guillain-Barre--

you might think, well, what do nerves

have to do with the flu vaccine?

Well, it turned out, interestingly enough,

that back in 1976-- so we've been giving flu vaccine

for a long time-- back in 1976, it was observed--

and this was unbelievable how they were able to find this,

but they found one extra case-- one extra case, approximately,

of Guillain-Barre So one extra case of Guillain-Barre Syndrome

among 100,000 individuals that were vaccinated.

So they said, well, that's interesting.

We didn't expect this person to have Guillain-Barre.

And there seems to be an association with the vaccine.

So as a result of finding this kind of risk back in 1976,

we've been looking ever since.

So in the last 30, 40 years we've

been kind of looking every year, and people are kind of

encouraged to report if they have Guillain-Barre

And we have not seen a real association between the flu

vaccine and Guillain-Barre ever since this year.

But we still continue to look.

And people still talk about Guillain-Barre

and ask questions about it.

So that's why I wanted to bring it up.

Now, the other thing that actually, I think,

people talk about maybe even more commonly

than Guillain-Barre, is febrile seizures.

And if you've ever seen one, these things

are pretty frightening.

These are basically a seizure in a young child after a fever.

And I completely understand why parents

would be worried if they ever see one like this.

And you wouldn't want to see one in your own child, of course.

But the risk of febrile seizures with flu vaccine

is also quite low.

So you usually see about one case among, let's say,

about 1,000 vaccinated kids.

So it's also pretty low.

And here, the reassuring part-- the thing

that is probably most helpful for parents to know--

is that if your child has a febrile seizure,

they almost always get better quickly and completely.

There's no kind of long-term brain damage

that you get from febrile seizures-- nothing like that.

So it is frightening to look at and to see.

It's scary, no doubt about it.

But the kids do recover really, really well.

And they don't have any long-term problems.

So let's jump to the other side.

What are some of the uncommon benefits?

And, actually, I'm saying uncommon.

I should even put it in-- well, I was going to put in quotes.

I guess I can do that.

Because actually, some of these benefits

are more common than you would think.

And so we talk about hospitalizations, right?

And deaths.

And people think, well, you know, it's

not very common to have to go to the hospital

or to die from flu, right?

And actually-- I wrote "die" when I meant "deaths"--

and actually, there are many, many hospitalizations

and deaths happening each year in the US.

These are US numbers, right?

But you can kind of get a sense for these numbers

and project them to your own setting, wherever

you may be living.

In the US, we see thousands and thousands of deaths, year

after year, related to the flu.

This is based on some research that's

been done over the last 30 years.

And hospitalizations as well.

We see 200,000 per year.

So these are not uncommon things, really.

And what are people dying of?

What is the cause of death in hospitalizations?

Well, it's things like pneumonia or bronchitis.

These are pretty common ailments,

and they can land you in the hospital.

And sadly, they can actually land you in the grave

because they're so serious.

And also, things like asthma.

Asthma attacks can be triggered by the flu.

And if you're a parent, you can really

appreciate things like ear infections.

And you can get sinus infections related to the flu.

And more generally, bacterial infections.

So a lot of bacteria like to wait for the flu

to infect, and then right afterwards they kind of jump

in and cause infections as well.

Let me just spell this out just to clear up any confusion.

So these are actually fairly serious issues, right?

These are not trivial.

And they're much, much more common than a lot of people

think about-- all these things, right?

And so when you're comparing them side by side, on the one

side-- on the benefits side-- you're

avoiding hospitalization and death

from fairly common things.

And on the other side, you have truly uncommon things-- things

that happened and were noticed a long time ago,

or people recover completely and fully from.

So between the two sides, again, I

would say that, based on this information,

the benefits win out over the risks.

So now let me just bring up a little bit more space.

And I'm going to get into one final issue,

and this is around something that is really troubling.

This is around myths, things that simply are not true.

And there are a lot of them, actually, around flu vaccine.

There are a lot of myths.

And over the years, I've noticed that there's been a shift.

So a long time ago, I would always hear the same question.

People would say, hey, isn't it true

that the flu vaccine can cause autism?

Because I heard that on the internet, or my mom

forwarded me an email about that.

And that is definitely and completely not true.

So this is not a real thing.

That does not happen.

And then later, over time, I started hearing, well,

maybe it's not the vaccine.

Maybe it's something inside the vaccine.

Maybe it's this thing called thimerosal.

Or maybe something within thimerosal, because thimerosal

is actually a preservative.

Maybe it's this mercury within thimerosal.

And maybe that causes autism.

That was kind of the new thing, I would say, a few years ago.

And that also has been kind of proven, and shown in studies,

not to be the case.

So what do people actually talk about nowadays?