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  • Hello world so I bought some hand-crafted traditionally made Japanese Knives

  • and I kind of messed a couple of them so I want to tell you about that story and umm

  • I wanted to tell you because I think the world of knives is a bit intimidating

  • and there's a lot to learn and I'm a total newbie to all of this

  • So I thought bringing you along that journey of learning that I've had

  • might help someone else who's new to knives and especially Japanese Knives I think

  • I will make mistakes so I apologize for them I try to learn as much as possible

  • so if I make mistakes I'm very sorry about that

  • and this will be kind of a more of a raw unedited video or less edited video so

  • this is the condition of the knife literally two weeks after I gave it to my sister-in-law

  • How did it get to that point so quickly?

  • to get to that I going to have to rewind a bit my wife and I were set to go to Echizen

  • where among a few traditional crafts they do they hand-craft knives

  • as my sister-in-law was going to watch our kids while we were away we thought

  • "one of those knives will be a great gift" especially since she cooks a lot

  • she was in fact very nervous about owning an expensive knife and told us not to buy her one

  • umm but when we went to the knife factory

  • Ryusen Hamono and met with the CEO the knife master we asked him the question of

  • Can an everyday cook buy and use one of these things? and this is what he had to say

  • I understand that customers are nervous to use these thin, beautiful knives.

  • But we make tools to cut food so that you can eat and live,

  • So please feel free and don't be scared of using one.

  • We have our clients who have been using our knives for 20 to 30 years.

  • Some mothers even pass their knives on to their daughters

  • So with all that in mind my wife and I excitedly spend a couple hours

  • testing out all these knives you see on this cutting board and ended up

  • picking a sentoku knife that we felt was best for our needs.

  • Now I don't know enough about knives to know if this is a laser or not

  • but what I do know is when you have it and you go to slice it's umm it's really cuts nicely so

  • Here we go

  • It's also very lightweight so we liked it sharp, lightweight, What's not to like?

  • and it was actually the cheapest out of all the knives

  • the cheapest being about 150USD so we decided to buy one not only for us but for my sister-in-law

  • and only a week later we both had issues the knives were rusting

  • ah for my case it was my daughter she was you know cutting up something at night

  • she left it in a pool of water the next day "oh my goodness it's rusting"

  • but I looked online and I remembered a video that Jun had about

  • the rusty knife and fixing it so I looked at that and there was I reddit post attached to it

  • where somebody told about all the equipment they bought so I got rust erasers and

  • I got stropping stuff and we got some cream and I was able to

  • kind of get all the rust out there's a few little kind of like parkmarks left but I think it's

  • almost almost like new but yeah I did mess it up and recover it but

  • it was my sister-in-laws knife that was in a lot worse of a coniditon and I'll let her explain

  • As I always use a stainless knife,

  • after washing it, I put it in the dish rack.

  • So I did the same thing with this,

  • and then I found it rusty,

  • then we decided to sharpen it,

  • using an easy one.

  • My husband used this to sharpen it.

  • And then it chipped.

  • So we had a fight...

  • We thought what should we do, and then came to Greg.

  • Because what we didn't know and it's a learning curve is that

  • you know such a hard delicate blade umm you can't sharpen with one of these things or with a

  • honing steel you need to use wet stones which I now have

  • but the problem was that he chipped the knife as well as rusted it so it was way beyond my

  • pay grade to even try to fix

  • but the words of the CEO of Ryusen Hamono kind of sprang into my mind

  • If something happens to your knife,

  • we are here to fix it for you, as our products need to maintain its quality

  • About the maintenance, you don't always need to send it to us.

  • We teach you tips so that you can do it by yourself

  • We are happy to give you advice so it's not difficult at all.

  • So I shipped it to Ryusen Hamono and not one week later it came back

  • The fixed knife!

  • and so we got it back right here so this is the fixed knife now so this is her first time seeing it

  • so let her open it up and see

  • Can I say one more thing, sorry.

  • Because the blade is really thin,

  • I thought using this would break it,

  • so I said don't use it, but

  • my husband said it's OK.

  • Apparently after one pass through it chipped.

  • On top of that he didn't even tell me, so it made me mad.

  • It got all jagged just after it was gifted to us.

  • Because it got jagged, I was fuming.

  • OK, I'm done.

  • - OK, so it's fixed. -Alright.

  • - Open it please. - Thank you.

  • Three

  • Two

  • One

  • Open!

  • Wah! Amazing!

  • Wow, it's real.

  • It's like brand new!

  • - [Mother in background] Did they fix it for you? - [Daughter] Yeah, fantastic.

  • The chip was here, but it's all fixed!

  • Yeah, now I feel a different pressure.

  • I really have to take care of it.

  • I will treasure it.

  • Ah, amazing!

  • This, this.

  • Supre excellent sharpness!

  • Stress... it's stress free.

  • Sugoi!

  • It's like cutting with a slicer, wow!

  • Look!

  • No stress.

  • It's light as well.

  • So how do you take care of it now?

  • - I'll teach you know. - Hai!

  • - It's easy, it's easy, look. - Yes

  • - Like this - Yes.

  • It's OK now.

  • - Right? - Yeah.

  • This was the important step to to prevent rusting.

  • I now understand, thank you so much.

  • - OK. - I won't let my husband touch this.

  • - Alright. - I'm done!

  • Yes, all done!

  • The Steel

  • So why did a moderately expensive knife like this rust? Well it's the steel so

  • on the end of the spectrum you have carbon which can get really sharp and hard but can rust easily

  • and then on the other hand you have something like this which is considered a stainless steel where

  • they have a low amount of carbon but a high amount of chromium which makes it stainless

  • and so this knife is called a umm the metals called HAP-40

  • and it's kind of like a semi stainless and between so you

  • can leave it in water for probably an hour and you'll be fine

  • but if you leave it for a few hours yeah it's going to rust

  • probably the biggest difference between Japanese knives and western knives is the steel

  • and the hardness so they're harder then western knives this is a Japanese knife this is a western knife

  • and umm they're more brittle but like how can you be hard yet more brittle?

  • like I kind of couldn't wrap my head around it but then I thought about this so

  • this is a cheap cheap ladle and I'm just going to bang it like this

  • Right so you can just bend it back right so this is a tough

  • piece of metal because you can stress it a lot and it won't break but it will bend

  • right whereas if I take this knife no I'm not going to even try that

  • this I mean if you did that I think it will break eventually or at least chip

  • pieces of so it's hard but it's not tough right you can if you stress it enough it will break

  • and so that's the difference so this type of knife I can abuse it a lot more because it's a softer

  • steel and it won't break yeah

  • I hope you can read that

  • So this is a 180mm cenelli knife it's made in Italy but it's called a Japanese Knife

  • I guess it's Japanese style and the makeup of the steel is X50 CR MO 14

  • kind of sounds cryptic but the X50 its stands for X stands for carbon in this case

  • and it's 0.5% carbon whereas the CR stands for chromium and it's 14% chromium

  • So carbon makes something hard chromium makes something soft

  • but the reason you have so much chromium in there is because you want the stainless capabilities

  • so yeah I could leave this in water overnight and just throw it into the dish pit here

  • and it will be fine so it can take a lot of abuse

  • but the hardness takes a hit so on the Rockwell hardness scale it's a 54 to 56

  • now there's actually a lot elements you can add a knife besides chromium and carbon to make it

  • do different things so vanadium is one of them so with a wusthof knife what is it it's a X50 Cr MoV 15

  • is what you'll see written on a wusthof knife I'm probably mispronouncing that sorry Germans umm

  • but it will get it harder so it's a 58 on the rockwell hardness scale

  • that's cool and this is a HAP-40 knife and it has a lot more of those hard components in it

  • umm so carbon is at like 1.3% or 1.4% something around that

  • it's not that much more but it makes a difference it's also a powdered steel it's like a high speed stool

  • stool, high speed tool steel

  • and umm you can get it way harder it's like a 64 to 66 according to the manufacturer

  • but depending on how you treat it, it can get even harder then that

  • so the point of a powdered high speed tool steel I believe I'm saying it right

  • is that umm you can get it harder yet retain some of the toughness but still

  • even as you know tough as that steel is it's not going to be as tough as this

  • There are so many different steels I could talk about but the last one I will is this Japanese steel

  • which is called VG10 and it's supposed to be hard as well as stainless

  • and umm so it's very popular with Japanese people and it is a 60

  • on the Rockwell hardness scale

  • now another thing about this knife is that it has what called damascus

  • cladding it's not like a damascus knife

  • all the way through or something like that I believe that technology has been lost to the ages

  • but damascus cladding you can see this pattern here it means you have soft and hard stainless steel

  • that are like so many layers I believe this ones 33 layers if I'm correct and

  • that makes that pattern when you make the knife so it's kind of cool looking

  • as far as I can tell western knives are lot more standardized and mass produced

  • now it could just be that I don't know much about knives but Japanese knives seem to have a lot more variety to them

  • the types of steels that are used and the different types of knives so this is called a

  • sentoku this is called a nagiri

  • and there's gyuto and there's just a ton of different styles of Japanese knives

  • as well as handles you can see this ones octaga~ octagonal

  • I'll try that again this one is octagonal and this ones kind of octagonal but not quite

  • it's a really nice handle though beautiful

  • and as I said before the thing about Japanese knives is because they're harder

  • they can require different sharpening techniques

  • and one of the most recommended ones is wet stones

  • Cutting boards

  • Now because I got hard Japanese knives this meant that I had to look into cutting boards

  • because while people want their knives hard

  • umm you actually want the opposite with your cutting board

  • you don't want a hard cutting board otherwise it'll dull

  • your hard knife so plastic cutting boards like

  • all these ones that I had were not great

  • umm or I mean you can use them of course but they will dull your knife faster

  • I should mention though that there are soft plastic and there are hybrids that you can get but

  • I'm going to just talk about wood and so this is a wood I got from Kochi

  • and it is a hinoki or cypress and so there are so many different types of woods there's

  • Maple there's teek there is cypress hinoki and this is called Kiri yeah

  • and so yeah this cutting board is from Kochi which I actually visited last year

  • and it's made from a single piece of wood so I believe it'll be less hard to break

  • then a lamented engrain or edge grain board

  • although this is a soft wood so it might not last as long for other reasons umm

  • but so the thing about hinoki which is cypress is that it's a

  • aromatic wood so in Japanese saunas you'll have this and it's a nice smelling wood oh

  • there's my cats being fed and versus a hard wood like maple this board is actually quite light

  • but even lighter is this wood it's a hinoki

  • and it's not hinoki sorry it's kiri and this wood over here it is super light

  • umm and I think it has bigger pores so I don't believe it'll last as long

  • but it was quite popular in the stores when I went around the knife shops in Kappabashi

  • a famous area for buying kitchen equipment in Tokyo it was really cheap too relatively

  • so it was about 15USD

  • So the thing I learned about wood cutting boards is that they can be more sanitary

  • then plastic cutting boards

  • And umm for example with maple the grains there are really fine in hard wood

  • and so what it will do it will kind of like suck down the bacteria and trap it in there

  • and kill it now with this type of wood it is

  • a soft wood and so the grains are bigger and so it's kind of like a different action that happens

  • so when I did the research about this one it's kind of a special type of cypress

  • I think this stuff grown in Aomori and apparently this one in Kochi as well

  • they have anti-bacterial properties

  • so they're supposed to be good as well umm now the thing with

  • plastic cutting boards is initially their really easy to sanitize

  • and so people think ok that's really good but then

  • if you look at this board I've had it for a while and it's ok I'm going to bring closer because it's super shiny

  • so yeah look at that I don't think that's sanitary anymore

  • and the thing is because you get these deep grooves and the stuff just gets stuck in there

  • and doesn't come out so it's a bit different then a wood cutting board so I should just really throw this away

  • and this cutting board is very hard so I don't think it's really great for your knives

  • since 90% of what we'll cut is going to be fruits and vegetables

  • we're going to mainly use our wood cutting boards and for the meats and fish

  • just because my wife likes to be really really heavy on the bleach

  • we're going to use the plastic cutting boards for that, that's like 10% of the time

  • and the thing is you can't use bleach on wood

  • it will break down the wood and destroy it and it's not good so

  • just another tip for you don't use bleach on your wood

  • and wash them off and dry them right after using

  • Sharpening

  • So once I had the cutting board thing solved

  • the other worry I had was getting and keeping the knives sharp

  • and so what actually happened is a long journey

  • of sharpening and this started over a year ago

  • and the first stone I got was this one I think it's a king I think it's a 1000 or 6000 grit

  • so 1000 is the rougher harder side and 6000 is the smoother side

  • and so what everybody recommended was to get a cheaper stone

  • and to practice with cheaper knives so this knife is from IKEA it's a 10 dollar knife

  • this knife is umm actually from a chef kitchen store but it's like a 40 dollar knife

  • so good knives to practice on and so when I was sharpening I was doing them

  • you know manually I was looking at like hours and hours of videos about sharpening

  • and the key about sharpening is that you want to have a consistent angle

  • and a lot of knives nowadays have a 15 degree angle

  • but whether you put it like 20 or 10 or 15 or 17 or 16 I think most people say

  • umm from what I read is that it's most important to get it at a consistent angle so you have to like

  • keep it at whatever angle you choose umm so I got this and for a year I practiced and

  • I got the knives sharp but I didn't think they were

  • that I didn't know that I wasn't doing that great of a job

  • umm because after I got this thing this is like a angle guide that you clip on to your knife

  • and so what this helps you do is keep it at a consistent angle the whole way through

  • right it's a really this is like 6 dollars this thing and umm

  • the thing about this it changed the game completely once I used this

  • I was like ohh wow this is how sharp I can get knives if I have a consistent angle

  • so this really helped me although some people think it's kind of like a crutch like training wheels and so

  • your never going to learn how to do it properly but honestly it's helped me so much

  • if you have like trouble doing it

  • on your own or finding out the right angle and I tried different tricks like putting pennies under

  • or something like this height and I just couldn't do it right

  • umm this thing can really help when your learning

  • and because I got better knives I decided to invest in better stones so I have 3 shopton

  • ceramic wet stones so this ones like a 320 grit like this

  • and then this ones 1500 so medium and this one is 5000

  • and I really like the feel of these stones a lot better

  • but once you add up the price of these stones and then

  • this to hold the stones which is really helpful because I found

  • this thing kept on moving around so this one keeps it really steady

  • and then I have a leather stropping block with the compound

  • umm and I think I kind of not doing a good job with this stropping block either

  • anyways that's all like 175USD

  • umm so it's more expensive then my new favorite knife

  • umm but I think these are something like especially since I don't use them often

  • that you can keep for decades and keep

  • whether it's your cheap knives or your more expensive knives sharp so I think it's definitely worth investment

  • I've actually found myself enjoying sharpening knives

  • and so I'm actually trying to sharpen the knives of friends

  • not their good knives but just their cheaper ones

  • I'm not comfortable trying to practice on people's nice knives yet

  • Let's cut stuff!

  • So you might of heard that a bad sharp knife is better then a good dull knife

  • and I'd agree but what even better is a good sharp knife so umm

  • what you do is you can take paper like this, this is kind of like thin magazine paper and

  • I've sharpened all these knives good enough that they can cut the paper

  • Yay everyone likes this at least in videos they're always cutting paper

  • and ahh I hope I don't embarrass myself ah and doesn't cut but yep

  • that cuts well ok

  • see told you I was going to embarrass myself a few

  • don't hit the right angle or something sometimes it's looks like the knives not sharp but

  • yeah it's sharp and then lastly this knife here

  • right they can all cut paper they're all sharp in that way

  • but I found the real differences when you start cutting things and this is what I've wanted to do

  • ever since I had started filming ok so first of all I'm to start off with

  • a tomato that's a favorite thing to cut

  • I haven't practiced this before so I don't know how well these will cut this tomato

  • but let's try and see so that's actually really good

  • It was super smooth to cut with this knife this is 10 dollar IKEA knife

  • ok 40 dollar knife

  • Hmm

  • Yep also really good I think it got caught on the bottom a little bit I didn't press down hard enough

  • Ok and then is the kind of laser knife and yep

  • really easy

  • and then this is actually a 300 dollar knife but we got it on discount because

  • it has these scratches right here and you probably can't even tell

  • umm we got it for like half price because of that so that was cool

  • Yep

  • cuts nice as well so everything cuts tomatoes good so honestly if I was just cutting a tomato

  • I'd say wow these are all pretty good knives ok so now I magically have an apple and

  • Ok that's.....

  • I have to put more pressure down on the apple which is not a big deal but the you know the cuts are ok

  • Now if I take the laser knife

  • It's just so smooth I don't know oh wait the apple got in my way

  • It's just so smooth let's try this knife out here

  • This is easier then the IKEA knife

  • Yep

  • that's nice so one of the vegetables where I noticed the biggest difference was the carrot

  • and so when I cut with this knife

  • I feel like once you get to the middle

  • it's like just not

  • I don't know as smooth it's not bad but

  • like when I look at it I can just see kind of a rough texture now with this knife

  • it's glides through so smoothly I don't have to put much pressure on it

  • and then it's just so smooth

  • so the last thing I'll show is a cucumber

  • if I'm not putting much pressure it's not cutting

  • which I mean I can just put pressure on and cut it and I can do the

  • it will cut fine so there's not a big deal but it's just such a difference because

  • when I take a knife like this now and I just like I'm

  • I'm not putting pressure on it and it's just cutting right through it's incredible

  • and that kind of brings the fun into

  • cutting stuff like I really enjoy cutting things now because it's just so easy and smooth

  • and so if I only did the test with the tomato

  • I wouldn't have known the difference but once you start a variety of things your like ok wow

  • there is a big difference between the knives

  • one thing I never had anybody tell me is like how do you avoid these things from rolling off everywhere

  • I've never figured that out see there you go

  • Final thoughts and tests

  • ok from everything I've learned so far I think these are the two things I can say about Japanese knives

  • versus western knives so with the Japanese knives they are harder

  • and so they can retain their edge longer and they can be sharper for longer

  • nice sharp knives ok the second thing is that they are

  • thinner so the grind or the geometry it's a lot more thinner of a knife

  • in comparison to a western knife on average so you can also cut easier

  • through things so I think that's the experience I had with different vegetables I was cutting

  • was that the thinness really helped it cut through

  • and that's why I think even though this was sharp enough to cut paper

  • and cut tomatoes it kind of struggled with things like carrots and with the apples

  • um this just the geometry of this is so much thinner and it performed better and it' hard as well

  • so something that seemed a little bit crazy to me was that I could actually taste the sharpness ok so

  • I have all these slices and let me just show you

  • So I can taste the sharpness

  • I don't know what me eating it actually shows you but it's like slippery and it's umm

  • I don't know it just feels good to eat and apparently because you have such a sharp cut

  • that it'll break a lot less of the cells in something like a carrot or an onion

  • and so it will retain the moisture a lot better so apparently if you cut an onion with a sharp knife

  • it's not going to make you cry so I wanted to test this I've never tried this before let me try

  • So far I'm so good so that's one batch of onions

  • Ahh that's what I should of done flipped it

  • Ok so you know what I can feel the onions in my eyes and umm I don't know about that

  • maybe because I chopped so much of it that it's I can feel it so

  • I don't know about that, that's what I've learned

  • but maybe it's not as severe as if I had a duller knife cutting it I don't know

  • so here's my final thing about knives

  • I love this HAP-40 knife it's super thin kind of like a laser and it's just so fun to cut with

  • umm this V610 this nagiri knife

  • I really like it as well such a beautiful knife and I hope to get a lot of long years out of it

  • just not as fun as this one

  • and I'm still keeping these knives and so these two over here

  • but like for this one if I'm going to cut bones or cut like really hard things like squash

  • umm I don't want to risk these knives

  • so I can just use one of these knives and be safe and then I have my stones where I can

  • fix it if anything goes wrong but they are tougher knives so they can take a lot more abuse

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  • Thanks for watching! See you next time, bye! What's your favorite knife?

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