Name: 喜劇的政治--伊沃-格雷厄姆。 (The politics of comedy - Ivo Graham)
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T09:56:05.000Z
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hello and welcome to ways to change the world.

I'm Christian Gary Murphy, and this is the podcast on which we talked to extraordinary people about the big ideas in their lives on the events that have helped shape them.

How do they feel about the world around them?

On my guest today is a comedian, Ivo Graham.

Now I thought, We don't have many comedians on this show, and normally when we do, I'm able to say you know so and so from X or whatever it is.

But the world of comedy has changed so much.

I could just say Ivo Graham, and you may have seen you on YouTube or on TV or on podcasts.

That's exactly the sort of thing it just a bit of a random spread of stuff.

But not an extraordinary person would have to nip that in the bud immediately.

Is it a stable with you on be treated if my take on the world had a change is of any worth whatsoever.

But I'm 29 I'm a stand up comedian, and I think both of those things invalidate me quite a lot.

Oh, on the contrary, I mean the fact that your standup comedian most people want to know your take on things.

Well, yeah, increasingly, I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable with that thing.

I mean, I do obviously see the value of ideas conveyed through jokes off being very subtle ways to get into people's heads on often far more effective than a slightly drier the discourse.

But I don't think that I Any of the stuff that I've done has really moved things along in any of the big areas.

You know, you're not a political committee and I mean, what are you an observational comedian?

I'd have to say it's a mixture off, you know, lots of different things, but rooted essentially around, uh, autobiography.

It's either the bravest or the laziest, I think former stuntman doing in my case, it is probably the latter because every year I trudge back up to the end of fringe Andi, I do another hour basically about what's been going on over the last year on how it's made me feel on dhe.

Uh, I enjoy that because it becomes a form of diary keeping almost and a form of self examination, and then other stuff comes off the back of it.

There's usually a bit of topical stuff that was happening in the world, and, you know, observational comedy is such a hard thing to do.

If you get even close to one of those, you know, you know what it's like when moments you know you've struck riel paydirt.

I had a bit about wireless headphones, which I thought was quite relatable a couple of years ago, but they're few and far between.

But there's a lot more in your own life in which I find it extraordinary, actually, because you're very lucky then to find that much in your own life that you could write about because I'm constantly asked, not constantly, but regularly asked, you know, by publishers and things, you know, to write a book.

Yeah, and I'm I'm so scared of writing a bad book, and I kind of think my life isn't that interesting.

It's not interesting enough yet to write a book.

And I'm nearly 50 for you to be able to move my understanding, your point running, agreeing with you.

I would think that for you to be able to mind your own life on a pretty much daily basis come with new material is great.

But the crucially, it's the fact that I've been able to make a now hours worth of it funny every year and then divided up into the tunnel 20 minute chunks on a you know, every night of the week.

It's not that my life is such an interesting story.

It has to be told it's that I've worked with these quite, uh, rudimentary raw materials and thought a lot about any sort of angle I can put on top of them.

I do think that I went to eat and freaks, for example.

Um, I went to Eton as a teenager for five years and that it became very obvious to me very early on that that was something quite potent to explore partly, I think teenagers in general are such a nostalgic thing to go over one self and also quite a nostalgia thing for people to listen to because it reminds maybe of their own formative, hormonal nightmares on DDE.

Uh, but particularly a teenager spent in this, uh, institution which has so much about it, which people find interesting or problematic or downright offensive, and and learning how to work with that.

I also then went to Oxford, which is obviously also somewhere an incredible privilege.

But actually after return, that's basically throw, you know, instead of people you don't talk about your university days ago.

Well, I've sort of, you know, even basically covers it in the hole.

You know, I'm a 20 scale, but you decided to sort of, you know, come out.

You know, it's an Eastern boy quite early on.

In fact, to be honest, the first time somebody draw drew my attention to you.

They said, you know, you know, he's he's really funny.

He does this whole thing about how he went to eat.

Yeah, well, I mean, that's that's very nice of whoever that waas please pass on her.

Um, for spreading the word and I think I did realize and you, you know it is, you know, ultimately not cynical.

You know, it's good if you're going to say anything about what your act about rather than just He's just another on particularly in the sort of young male stand up of which there are so many having any sort of us Piot all on being able to then explore the experts in answer to play with stereotypes.

And I certainly started off leading on quite lazy sort of boarding school stereotypes, some sort of rogue teachers.

It's set for it where it's actually a disappointingly sort of innocent time at school, actually, but you can you can ramp up that sort of thing.

I remember doing for about a year doing stand up where I talked about being posh because I knew I sounded passion.

If I had to acknowledge that, and then I'd say I went to an all boys boarding school because that immediately comes up a certain amount of stuff and say things like, I went to an all boys boarding school.

I'm not ashamed that it, you know, made me who I am today.

Insecure, repressed and very good election.

It's come to quite easily to write on Dhe makes a lot of sense immediately to people.

But Eaton was the one that felt for a while, like well, but I couldn't actually say that because they people will laugh.

Well, boys boarding school Where Still Bill just hate eaten.

Did you actually learn to do comedy at school?

I was I think that's where I developed a sort of fantasy about it because it was so attached, you know, bit being funny anywhere.

But particular school is so attached to be a popular and being confident.

They're still, you know, a little bit like a sort of, you know, a boy was bigger than you.

A speech or two years old and he was a teenager.

Well, with summer always interview at the same school, somehow always be superior to you in your mind.

Similarly occasional bump into people who were those very dominant social figures and abundant now as adults And despite the fact that you know, I've got a bit of something of my own going on, I'm still absolutely deferring to them as well.

Every everything I ever learned was from sitting silently in the back of a history class on watching you amusingly, you know, try to throw Mr Proctor off track.

There were there were funny people, and it was an environment that really turned that into a hierarchy.

Quick, quick, and a very surprised that you've become a grand feeling delightfully upfront about how utterly surprising they found it.

But then there are other people you know of a couple of friends, artist teenagers, actually, usually people outside of school with the ones I really started to try and like, make laugh.

Probably because it was outside of school.

Everything was, you know, it's set in stone at school if you you know, if you're popular, 13 you're popular and 18 and if you're popular, if you're unpopular, it's art in your apartment.

Is there's very little social mobility in between, whereas other friends I made sort of, you know, midway through that process secret.

Okay, maybe I'll try in a slightly different identity will be a bit bolder, and they boosted my confidence.

And I know it went to university, didn't know anyone, and that was where I started.

Stand up and then it's slightly snowballed from there.

And then he did the refrigerator full of times while I was a student, and by the time I'd finished it university, I was lucky enough to have an agent and a few gigs in the diary that I was getting paid for.

So I was just about a viable career opportunity from them.

When you started that sort of that first gig e mean you'd written it all, had you?

I mean, it was only five minutes, which obviously when you've never done it, is yeah.

It's It's amazing how quickly a funny comedy set can expand.